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i hate that term!!! i know we've been through this many times, but seriously, i feel like a mongo trying to explain what music i like when talking to people.."er, yeah, it's called IDM...intelligent dance music...sort of." Who invented this stupid term? YOU? |
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The only thing worse than that term is people who constantly complain about it. |
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Sorry that was harsh, I just hear this on this board and in the soulseek chatroom all the time, this will easily spark the 30th discussion on this topic on this board. |
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hahahaha I think the term is bad, but I thik braindance isn't any better. I think it should be called "IDM" but from now on all acronyms should be stripped from it. It's "IDM" and it doesn't stand for anything! |
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the term 'Electronica' is way worse |
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Most of us here have a higher appreciation for music than most. I have a friend that is a critic of the term Hard Core. He says it's stupid. I tell him it is just a way to explain things. The term IDM is just a classification for those that need it. |
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it was you then. |
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I simply call it "Electronic Music" or "Experimental" |
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a new and more accurate term should be invented... |
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no, why can't we just call it "electronic"? or "Drill&bass" for that matter |
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How do I explain to someone that knows nothing about music. I don't want to classify Warp, Rephlex and Planet-U with most of the crap that clubs play. I do consider Aphex, Squarepusher and the like to be more intelligent than most musicians. |
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Some wanker media type coined the term 'IDM' Basterdized from the A.I. series from Warp. It was quite clever as he got paid for writing the artical + it sets up an argument for the press to follow, so many journalists get paid. Every month magazines have to fill their pages with something....... why not create a new sub genre, include fashion/buzz-words etc . 3 pages filled....the wheel turns. Bring Bionic arse core, that's what I say |
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The truth is... I was listening to IDM before I knew to call it that. I was listening to Hardcore Punk before I knew what it was. |
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personally, i have no idea what so ever. "i listen to Aphex Twin". Perhaps AFX is a genre in itself..... |
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Squarepusher/Aphex Twin = DRILL&BASS |
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I agree with zguru. Although I would hardly ever tell someone that didn't know the music I listen to that my music is Intelligent Dance Music. I just say electronic music. Then they quickly forget about it and move on with their insignificant lives. |
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I strongly disagree. |
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whoa! i'm a Whizzie! |
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Is Alberto Balsalm drill & bass? |
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If someone tried hard enough, they could write a doctor's thesis on genres and subgenres of modern music. One time in school, I did a project over all of the bands related to Pearl Jam. Of course nobody cared about all the research that went into it. I even made a family tree with all of the related bands and projects. It's really hard talking to the common folk. |
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if aphex isnt " IDM" wtf do u call his genre |
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i hate yelling at my immature friends telling that that music i like is NOT TECHNO then i tell them its IDM and theyre like what? and i tell them intellegent dance music and theyre like, SO ITS DANCE MUSIC?! and i say no and they ask if its techno ..........etc. |
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i think URB made it up. from listening to afx to quote sean: "it doesn't exist as usual some journalists have tried to create a scene where there is none. it makes a lot of music they don't understand easier to write about.. it means anyone who's seen as 'glitch' can be neatly swept away from the public eye when the press have decided they've spent enough time celebrating this music they never liked anyway. … like all scenes, dead the minute it was born. it's a common enough thing. over the years we've been lumped in many different scenes and genres by writers too cowardly to admit their own tastes are subjective" |
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that's what we're trying to figure out. hopfully. |
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If you tell someone that you listen to a more intelligent form of music, they act offended, like you think you are better than them. I just tell them that they need a GED to understand IDM. |
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"understand IDM" im not even done with high school, can i understand IDM? |
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how bout InDaMu? lmao |
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Yeah, the only music I listen to is minimalist trancecore soundscapes mixed with happy-gabba-dubhouse euro-afro glitchhop jungleesque drumhop techno. |
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fuck this classification shit. we're all together man. we don't need any more subcultures, that's what divides us. roll on christmas. |
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I don't think it was journalists that coined IDM, I thought it was just some music fans who started the some time ago. It was originally just going to be a Rephlex mailing list. |
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Xanatos: Alberto Balsalm is not drill&bass I hate it so much with that "Is it techno?" bit in conversations Mr. Flappy. I know all too much of that lol. And I hate answering no all the time. Thats why Im going to be making a "It's Not Techno!" t-shirt someday. But this does bring up a good topic though. What DO we call this music? Yes Aphex Twin is under "IDM" to answer someone's question. So is Autechre, Squarepusher and Brothomstates. We gotta think up something to tell the common folk or else it will always be "Is it techno?" |
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If you really want a genre title to put this varied music in...... you need something like--- Rock...Jazz....Hip-hop etc. Something not-so-litteral, Similar to what Ae do with their titles. There is no direct link, you've got to listen before you can dismiss. |
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"It's Not Techno" -t-shirt...lol, that's a great idea!! |
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indulgent distained meccano |
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I thought about calling "IDM"..."E" music. What do you all think. "I listen to E" |
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Thanks Phresch :) |
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I don't think you can go too wrong with 'electronica' or 'electronic music' people in the states don't tend to really have anything to relate that too and they just say: 'oh', and like I said before, they go on with their lives. If they are still interested, then you can play them some, and I usually do. Amonbrune: It was rhetorical, I was just responding to AlbertoBalsalm's comment, (check the follow up) |
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"nor IDM" on the back...yyyeeeeah. |
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can't we just call it throbbing gristle or something? |
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"electronic listening music" seems fine to me or "experimetal electronic" or "post rock"... i don't give a damn about the classification or genre, i just care about the music itself. |
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a man after my own heart |
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I think Rolling Stone calls it "at home techno" or "home listening", implying that most of it is not dance worthy or club play worthy. |
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lol @ Phresch sweet idea on that |
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I have the opportunity to Dj a dance at a local church...I can't wait to play Ventolin or Milkman or My Red Hot Car. Seriously I will play some Polygon Window. |
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Exactly earthleakage. Do you want to hear some Throbbing Gristle?(Amazing band) No preconceptions apart from a lurid fascination of what they are going to hear...... |
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what you see first thing in the morning i guess |
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i reckon Aphex is quite "well-known" for the type of music he makes...and he represents the music i listen to. i was quite amused when i read the reviews of Kid A, especially Idioteque, it was "aphex-ish beats", "aphex-ish" this and that.. |
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I suppose everyone's right about the whole "electronica" or "electronic music" thing. We have to come to an understanding that the music is far too above our heads for mear mortals to classify with meer words. An impossible feet. I say the whole IDM scene should be explained with a mathematical formula. call the music: x2 [34x98] 2/3 + 45(d[ds]d+34 = 37h x 4[349](4) |
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42? |
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That mathematical formula explains how Autechre and Aphex Twin's brains work under halogen lights and the music in general |
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