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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-04-17 16:34 [#00180218]
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I tried to D/L a demo of Realplayer from the net, and now you require a credit card.
Fuquerst
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-04-17 16:43 [#00180227]
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Try versiontracker.com. You should be able to find the free version there.
Realplayer sux.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2002-04-17 16:44 [#00180230]
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Beat'em up!
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-04-17 16:48 [#00180236]
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Huh, there's a free version available, but you have to look at the small print on real.com in order to find it.
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Zen Storm
from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-04-17 16:51 [#00180239]
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yeah they're a bunch of asses over there, and realplayer sucks to begin with
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-04-17 17:45 [#00180329]
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real player is a dirty infection
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2002-04-17 17:47 [#00180330]
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real is a virus don't put that stuff in your machine you will one day regret it.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2002-04-17 17:51 [#00180336]
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i hate realplayer caus its fucking commerciaL and before you can play anything you first have to make your way through 2346 ad's and when you're done playing you quit realplayer because your pissed and you get all the ad's AGAIN but without it u cant listen shit on some whebpages
GRUNS!!!
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map
from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-04-17 17:55 [#00180342]
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they register your whole machine infos and installed software, but they can't get you with this proceed, cuz it's legally forbidden.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2002-04-17 17:58 [#00180347]
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like they care...
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-04-17 17:59 [#00180349]
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That's why we'll use mp3 streams instead of real audio with project x.
good idea? :-)
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-04-17 18:01 [#00180353]
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You're replacing one proprietary format with another. You could use ogg, but people would laugh at you.
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tunemx
from Budapest (Hungary) on 2002-04-17 18:01 [#00180354]
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yeah. Real One did some crazy things to my desktop, it did not live even an hour on my machine. Had to be uninstalled. Unbelievably aggressive, and therefore stupid crap.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2002-04-17 18:04 [#00180357]
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i totally agree... realplayer guys should get gemolt (f*cked up)..mp3's still the best compression there is..
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-17 18:08 [#00180364]
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Yes, excellent. Realplayer is full of spyware and its notorious put putting on lots of shit, I'll never get it again.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-04-17 18:12 [#00180370]
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I respectfully disagree. musepack is the best music compression available, but lacks some things like hardware support. It's also not open-source. mp3 is showing its age nowadays.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2002-04-17 18:14 [#00180376]
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you got point there but there aint no computer (well.. almost no computer) connected to the internet who hasn't got a mp3player../
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-17 18:15 [#00180379]
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what about vbr though?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-04-17 18:18 [#00180384]
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Yeah. I know realplayer sux ugly goat cock. But the nice people at Ninja/Big Dada and Warp/Lex are nearsighted enuf to make it so that any online samples of music are realaudio streams. No good at all. :(
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-04-17 18:20 [#00180385]
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I have a program that records realaudio streams to mp3/wav on my other computer, but not on this one.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-04-17 18:21 [#00180386]
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At the same file size, musepack quality beats mp3 pretty easily (whether cbr, vbr or abr).
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2002-04-17 18:22 [#00180388]
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vbr's a nice way of making mp3 last longer.... alhough i must agree mp3 is beginning to get al little out-dated
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2002-04-17 18:53 [#00180427]
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get the crack from www.thecrack.net if you can't avoid installing.
but be aware of the fact that it can't be deinstalled easily.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-17 18:58 [#00180435]
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i really don't like the new version of real player...the "real one" i pefer the older version, and real jukebox...
as far as mp3 being the best compression, i have to disagree...i've temped at microsoft, and learned quite a bit about wma, and it's far better.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2002-04-17 18:58 [#00180436]
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www.thecrack.net
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-04-17 19:15 [#00180444]
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Technically that's right - wma results in the smallest files at a particular rate, but it's generally agreed (at least in the audio communities that I follow) that it produces the worst sounding music.
Good results of listening tests are hard to find, here's one that I took part in that reaches a few conclus...
It's a blessing (or a curse) that I have very good ears and can hear compression artifacts in music, especially wma and poor quality mp3.
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-04-17 19:35 [#00180450]
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You can't get much more proprietary than wma. I'll stick w/ mp3s thank you. wma and that musepack format won't play on my mac.
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Zen Storm
from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-04-17 19:38 [#00180454]
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deinstalled=uninstalled
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Zen Storm
from St. Charles (United States) on 2002-04-17 19:39 [#00180456]
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<--------ass
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-04-17 22:17 [#00180622]
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i hate realplayer! i only got it so i could listen to music sampels on some sites.
it took me like a long time to even figure out how to get the free version and configure everything.
you have to admit tho, the new realone player looks pretty slick, even if it is total shit!
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2002-04-17 23:02 [#00180696]
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The problem with MP3 is (legally) Phobia and myself cannot have full tracks available for download. Then again, with as many tracks as watmm and 'project x' will have up, perhaps full recordings would be a bit space-prohibitive, not to mention it's pretty easy to beat streaming technology (recording ASF and RM files to WAV, etc.)
I have to disagree with the quality issue on WMA, I've gotten MUCH better results from WMA than I ever did with RealAudio, and the file sizes for WMA are half the size of 128k MP3s.
WMA can play on Macs, you just need the Media Player to play them!
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-04-17 23:35 [#00180731]
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I predict a bright future for the ogg vorbis format in streaming. It's totally free and has some really clever features like "bit-peeling." That allows you to have one high-quality source that can downgrade without re-encoding to serve lower-bandwidth people.
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