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offline preatlas from Saint Petersburg (United States) on 2013-08-04 06:27 [#02460486]
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I just put on "cubist reggae" and wondered what happened to
snares? Used to not go a week without a new album and now
hardly anything. Guess the style wore out or somethin


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2013-08-04 14:46 [#02460494]
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The latest he did was a remix for tribazik and I'm
pretty sure his best album will follow


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2013-08-04 15:16 [#02460495]
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why is he so idm-famous ? are druqks the answer ? just
askin', not hatin', just wonderin'


 

offline big from lsg on 2013-08-04 15:32 [#02460496]
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because he doesn't just cater to the idm crowd, which is,
like, three persons. but also a broad alternative or
whatever crowd. i'm sure autechre, aphex and the other idm
stars didn't want to cater to the intelligent dance music
crowd, but that did happen.


 

offline big from lsg on 2013-08-04 15:33 [#02460497]
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well aphex reached a bit beyond the idm crowd, but people
still assume he makes 'smart' music.


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2013-08-04 17:44 [#02460498]
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He made a lot of experimental electronic music, his Beats
are also very complex and there are also a lot of hidden
layers in his music, for me he's one off the best IDM
musicians out there because you can really dance you're ass
off too! :-)


 

offline auspex on 2013-08-04 19:58 [#02460499]
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i thought he was dead


 

offline jnasato from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2013-08-05 07:25 [#02460518]
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Yah, lotta nice YT vids of snares music slowed down (aphex
as well) and complexity and attention to detail shines
through. Puts a lot of wannabe "complex beat makers" to
shame.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2013-08-05 18:08 [#02460528]
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His music's always been too aggressive to my senses. while I
love many dsp-mad tracks from the likes of e.g. Squarepusher
or one Aphex Twin - VSnares has always seemed to me a
drunk/drugged copycat. where form exceeds content. I
listened to some tracks, studied some xlt threads on him -
to no avail.

Yeah, "complexity and attention to detail" - but why ? It's
like RDJ's son showing his dad he can make fucked up 666 bpm
beats too.

I'm in a wrong thread I guess. I don't understand his music.
Respek.



 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2013-08-05 22:11 [#02460536]
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Spoke to him about drugs but he only drinks beer and smoked
a joint many many years ago. I love the aggression in his
music, everybody has his own taste I guess, there has been a
lot is discussion going on (also in here) about whether he
is good or not, there are lovers and haters, I don't like
all his stuff but I'm definitely a lover.


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2013-08-05 22:48 [#02460538]
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he did a little interview about his gadgets not so longggg
ago
LAZY_TITLE
i like the bit about his listening spot,, is
interstrething,



 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2013-08-05 23:10 [#02460539]
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it completely shows. maybe he'd make some more appreciable
music if he chilled out once in a while. that one album he
supposedly made while half asleep was prolly the best
overall work ive heard from him.


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2013-08-05 23:14 [#02460540]
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which one is tht?


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2013-08-06 04:23 [#02460543]
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yeah, which one is that ?


 

offline jnasato from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2013-08-06 05:51 [#02460544]
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Aaron Funk Sleepytime Musics


 

offline dependency on 2013-08-06 06:32 [#02460545]
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Vsnares isn't Juggalo enough.

Read he doesn't speak french!



 

offline dependency on 2013-08-06 06:39 [#02460546]
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Who does he work for?


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2013-08-06 06:52 [#02460548]
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Last step - sleep


 

offline dependency on 2013-08-06 06:57 [#02460549]
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eat it baguette dude


 

offline IJO on 2013-08-06 11:25 [#02460555]
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i used to like his stuff a lot. so brutal and heavy. always
had it in my car. this was some 8 years ago. now i find it
too heavy and too disturbing. i could listen to aphex
forever though.


 

offline melack from barcielwave on 2013-08-06 11:59 [#02460556]
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im with obbie here, even if i have enjoyed some tunes and
albums, i never really standed his destructive side... its
like hes fucking good and then he just destroys the thing
and makes me want stop listening...

but hes a hell of a experience while playing live, the big
viking on the scene, melting drill beats like its mere
electricity...


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2013-08-06 16:31 [#02460562]
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i liked his early full-on gabber shit but it was always in
small doses. i still think the moonglow / this bitter earth
ep is easily the best thing he's ever done


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2013-08-06 19:56 [#02460576]
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Ah, that one. I remember listening to it but can't recall
much.

I think I'd appreciate him in live situation, yeah.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2013-08-07 02:41 [#02460583]
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"For a period I would literally do crack all night and
then after I came down I’d sleep a couple hours, get up
and do music. I would twist the music until it gave me the
same rush I got from the crack, that full euphoric adrenalin
blast. Bit of a dangerous experiment but a couple of wicked
12's came as a result. Those were strange days."

- Aaron Funk in an interview in Wire, April 2005

rossz celiac blatt stuttgart or whatever is good when you
wake up early in the morning and want to attack the day. i
don't give two shits if he cribbed all the strings from some
classical boffin; i'd probably hate it without his beats. i
remember how the blasts of bass in "hajnal" would cause my
dog to sit and stare at the speaker, doing the rca dog
thing.

winnipeg is a frozen shithole is just over the top and
sophomoric, and i love it. can't stand to listen to it
often, some of the tracks are crap skippers, but every now
and then it's precisely the right thing. like, during an ice
storm.

detrimentalist is good like eating whipped cream from the
can: good for the first few blasts, then gets boring. you
put it back in the fridge for a while, and it regains its
potential to be a sugary pleasant thing for a brief period.

hospitality i remember being ok but i never got into it,
ditto for huge chrome cylinder. don't know much else.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2013-08-07 02:42 [#02460584]
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also, i went back and got 7sevens.med or whatever, EP he
cited in the interview for the crack rush period, and it was
like: wow, the quality on this is shit. not the
craftsmanship, but the recording and sampling rate and bit
depth and all that. sounds like a ghetto blaster grafted to
the anus of a vax 11/750


 

offline jnasato from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2013-08-07 11:19 [#02460588]
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Whilst deeep high on synthetic cannabis shit, I was
listening to Ultraviolent Junglist, and it was somewhat
frightening. I could sense a violence and aggression that I
cannot experience from the track totally sober, but it could
be cuz the synthetic shiz totally amplifies paranoia, etc.
But anyway, Snares gets deep as fuck on drugs, buuuuuuut I
suppose most anything does.


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2013-08-07 19:52 [#02460604]
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I wonder if there are people who can do better beat
programming than mr snares, these beats are so fucking
complex..besides that his music has so many layers and
varies from ambient to hardcore gabber... in my eyes this
guy is an IDM God. But then you've the question: what is
IDM? For me IDM is all about experimental electronic
music...and that is what he does: experimenting with
electronic music.


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2013-08-07 22:22 [#02460606]
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maybe i need to do a loosiv and listen at half speed but i
honestly don't get what's so great in vsnares "complexity".
music needs space to breatheLAZY_TITLE


 

offline Sano on 2013-08-07 22:27 [#02460607]
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Most jungle tunes from early 90's sound more more complex to
me than anything VS has made, the odd time signatures just
make it seem more complex I think.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2013-08-07 23:01 [#02460609]
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jungle isn't vsnares, and vsnares isn't jungle. he has his
own thing, and he has it down pat. is it complex? who cares!
you either like it or you don't.

i'd guess his slowdown in recent vsnares output is due to a
few things: more aliases/collaboration (last step, speed
dealer moms) and kiddies getting extremely good at ripping
off the style he developed. might also be getting older and
easing off the crack before he dies.


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2013-08-07 23:09 [#02460611]
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I'm not only talking about the jungle beats in his music..


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2013-08-07 23:11 [#02460612]
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p.s.

people (myself included) used to give him grief for being
lo-fi in between the cracks. like, if you slow down 54 Cymru
Beats and drop it next to some winnipeg-era snares shizz,
aphex's bank of live-controlled concuntor drum modules
sounds much smoother than a snare pitched 14 steps.

he's really come a long way in this regard... i remember
hospitality in particular as the point where it was like:
this doesn't sound as chunky digital as he usually does. i
think he started using modulars and such more.


 

offline jnasato from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2013-08-08 04:50 [#02460627]
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VS is not just "complex", his beatz have flow and rhythm.
This became even more apparent when everyone thought they
were breakcore masters, and were just doing fast and boring,
pointless shit. In general, VS takes the mind on a nice
journey, ups and downs, fast and slows, ins and outs, etc.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2013-08-08 04:57 [#02460628]
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have you used renoise?


 

offline jnasato from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2013-08-08 08:28 [#02460639]
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I used it when it first came out, yah. But I do not use it.
Are you referring to how it's easy to trigger a shitload of
sample bits by furiously hitting the keys, etc.?


 

offline Sano on 2013-08-08 18:29 [#02460674]
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So what? Squarepusher destroys anything VS ever did in terms
of complexity, amens or not. Jungle has a lot of layers too,
sometimes more than one break rolling at a time. VS drums
are so basic, I don't see the complexity other than the time
signatures.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2013-08-08 18:46 [#02460675]
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yes, not 'furiously hitting the keys' though.


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2013-08-08 19:07 [#02460676]
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have I ever said squarepusher isn't? I love mr squarepusher,
maybe ,ore than m snares..who knows... But please start
listening to ALL vsnares his albums before saying anything
more about him. Maybe one day you'll understand how great he
is..if not: it's ok and I don't care..we all have our own
taste in music.


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2013-08-08 19:08 [#02460677]
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,ore than m snares= more than mr. snares


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2013-08-08 22:10 [#02460684]
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Good old endless music discussions.


 

offline Sano on 2013-08-09 01:21 [#02460697]
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Yes you were questioning if there was anyone better than VS
at drum programming, which I said yes there's loads better
than him. I've listened to everything he did, I think his
drums are way better now, I would guess anything past
Renoise work but my favorite is probably the Snares Man EP,
polka with the amen is just brilliant to me.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2013-08-09 18:17 [#02460709]
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I remember really enjoying that "Roszczczilakqg" album. Mad
beats vs strings, interesting idea. I guess you might say
it's his "hit album". Yes/no ?


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2013-08-10 01:25 [#02460714]
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LAZY_DOWNFALL


 

offline retape from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2013-08-10 01:54 [#02460715]
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xyrem


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2013-08-10 02:59 [#02460716]
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rossz is definitely his most bro-friendly album, for sure.


 


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