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david is just dreamy. here he says how people who hate the drones are juggalos. davids so hot i dont mind his voice spluttering and breaking and hes probably right about the drones. would hit it |
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maybe them drones are real bad. im in 2 minds so what do you think? |
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most people can use drones effectively as sort of a background watercolor wash, but it takes much more skill to do anything where drones are the focus, and not make it dull. who is david? |
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he puts his points across well, but he seems like an absolute fucktard of human. |
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"taken out" |
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i wonder how he'd feel if his whole family were killed in a drone strike, and for their deaths to be referred to as "collateral damage" |
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Flattered? Chuffed to bits? |
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Drones are not ethical, next question please |
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wait why not? |
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look, it kills evil people and i probably believe that. unless we all think the evil people are made up by the government?! is there a better way to kill bad people? or should we never kill them at all? |
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>"Drones are not ethical, next question please" ah, one of those comments that seem to lump all unmanned vehicles into the same basket. drones are utterly fantastic for the ISR/persistence roles. |
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just having a drone worked in 80s 90s experimental because ppl were new to waiting 20 mins for a tone to come in, but now it is so easy to make with a computer and has been done so many times that I would say it is not ethical to put out a drone only release today. |
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is there a better way for dronestep?! or should we never make drones at all? they are dull lets face it |
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wait sorry i imagine all of u have like the Christopher hitchens boxset or biography or whatever - so u dont like this guy? i like david he's really ambient |
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how bout u just dont kill ppl asswhipes |
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I find his line of argument quite convincing. I also find the lightly dark skinned woman, who disagrees with him, quite attractive. |
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Jews believe all non-jews are animals, not humans, therefore it is ok to do anything to them including murder, rape or torture. All jews are liars, it is a part of their religion. They take a special oath named Kol Nidre which means all and any oaths made to a non-jew are absolutely worthless. |
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Interesting: "Regarding all of them, we repudiate them. All of them are undone, abandoned, cancelled, null and void, not in force, and not in effect. Our vows are no longer vows, and our prohibitions are no longer prohibitions, and our oaths are no longer oaths." You're still a troll. :) Were you bullied by a jewish boy at school? Stole your milk money did he? |
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Drones are bad ass if they were actually used in a battlefield. But Pakistan is not a battlefield (no matter how you cut it, and neither are its provinces). Picture this: You live a basic life, the closest things you have to comfort are your family, friends and religion. Then one day a drone drops a bomb onto your village, killing your sister or loved one, destroying your home and belongings. All you have left is your religion, but you're now driven by rage. This is why we are in this retarded situation today. peace niggaz |
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"Picture this: ..the closest things you have to comfort are your family, friends and religion" What's the closest thing you have to comfort then? |
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Ethical drones - like ethical oil and ethical meat? |
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...good wank in a comfy bed |
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whoa bro that's some deep sherlock holmes 180' shit you pulled there, i like it ;) For myself, comfort is in the state of mind and body and there are many ways to have it. Unfortunately most people in the world have too many inhibitors/obstacles to achieving that state. |
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can any nuclear-powered drone be ethical? |
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i liked that music epic but its not stopping the world from turning rubbish which is what this thread is about |
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the world is turning rubbish i think being narrow and antiwestern is an interesting mutated condition. our self hatred is not exactly natural and when focused on reveals itself as utterly butterly fuck balls. check urself for these mutant conditions: > obama is just as bad as bush > bush was just as bad probably worse than hussein > we have real tyranny and police state > america created osama and saddam - we are the bad ones! > we are the bad ones! > muslim extremists hate us for what we did to them. > they are people fighting western imperialism. > i think if america left the muslims alone everthing would get better like the next day. > they took us to war on a COMPLETE LIE to get oil. > blair should be tried for war crimes. > when we get rid of the government we will be awesome to muslims. the world is more complicated than u think, mutant. your anti west 'this is just like our vietnam' ego trip has cost us all. you should be moving on. |
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Jews believe Iraq is a part of Israel. USA and Uk are controlled by Jewish money and psychology. Iraq war is because of jews. www.realjewnews.com |
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Talking of drones, have people seen the DIY weaponised personal drones? A bit of youtubing will reveal people strapping AA-12 combat shotguns to live camera equipped remote control helicopters. Never mind the question of their morality in the theatre of war, what about people building these and using them to remotely commit crime? |
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Nobody does it like Sara Lee. |
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pArA MiLiTaRy |
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He Parties With You! Hanging Up. |
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The Trooper Sayz Were Iz The Bong? |
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R Copz One Percent? |
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Alpha Romeo Tango Foxtrot F16's dropin clusterz on oakland |
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http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2013/07/03/198387951/whe re-the-mask-seen-in-global-protests-is-made The Comments are a little to good. |
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yeah ok thats a fair point. are you actually saying youre more scared of the everyday unaccountable empowered individual than you are of the government? i agree and so should all of you. ceri you are quite the advocate of the individual. all dem spirit-of-entrepreneurialism dudes making flying guns ---- maybe it is scary -------- and possibly bad. maybe individual responsibility isnt going to make the world awesome this time |
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everybody should be the master of their own detsiny.................... |
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just you wait til they have gnat-size drones able to recharge from power lines or 4d flying knives mashed from up h2o hydrogen. dats what you call taaaargeted assassination. you think they're not chucking millions at this shit just on the off chance? bitch please, the black budget is a black hole |
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sun brewed datura http://mashable.com/2013/07/02/restore-the-fourth/ |
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If you give them enough time, intellectual public speakers will convince you about anything . You should look at the facts and decide for yourself. is using robotic/remotely controlled machines to kill terrorists with the risk of innocent life as collateral damage justified?. Should certain countries have jurisdiction to use military action than that of a less developed country?. Is it moral to risk innocent life on CIA Intel gathered from a variety of changeable sources? I'm interested to know your views. In this thread you seem to be supporting Neocon ideology without even realizing it, drones are ethical = powerful countries like America should be able to use war machines to target anyone/people they want and in any country. We should be afraid of individual terrorists = we should be afraid and give up our personal rights to allow governments to rape our privacy. There is of course an absolute truth of our world reality that exists in the dead and living minds of our world, not on the news or history books, but all you need to know is that terrible men have existed in powerful positions throughout human civilization. Tyranny and corruption will endeavor, aggression and violence will always be how we motivate our technology and boost ecconomies. That shit is just how we roll, human beings are what they are, and it will never change, so you either imbrace it, or appose it, or just carry on in a microcosm world where you can get on with your life and not take any notice. |
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i made a song for this thread |
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Nice one. Imagine if Paula Abdul did a cover of that. Be pretty good. Music reminds me of a 1980's martial arts training montage, but with more action. |
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For me and most Zilty denizens, walking along the street in a largely peaceful country, yes, at this time I am more concerned about the specific threat of a drone owned/operated by a private individual negatively impacting me*, than that of a drone operated by a government, be that my own or another. Objectivism (which is the political philosophy I follow) is vehemently against the idea of law and order being enforced by an individual. One of the extremely few areas of activity that the government run, that should remain a state function, rather than a privatised one, is that of the police/army. People who read it as an idea of "might is right" and think that we're in favour of the guy with the most $$$s having the largest private army to enforce his will are misunderstanding it. That is closer to anarcho-capitalism. Objectivists don't like this model, because it means more human endeavour gets channelled into a personal arms race, rather than things that are constructive/beneficial. |
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*By "negatively impacting" I mean everything ranging from some kid's RC chopper scratching my car, to some lunatic strapping an IED to a remote control car and driving it into a crowded bus stop. |
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So the solution: ELITE SKILLZ. When I practice walking the streets with my eyes closed (using psychic vision to navigate), I think about if I got perfect at it and only walked the streets that way... Or if I ran around the streets on my hands. In either case, I might be stopped by some law enforcement asshole, when really, I could be more skilled than a person using their eyes and walking with their legs, due to practicing that shit 10 hours a day. I think a world where everyone was just super elite in everything would be great. Like if a child were to run in front of your car, and instead of smushing it or swerving into a gasoline tanker, you'd spin that car perfectly around the child and resume your peaceful drive. |
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yo larn. 'If you give them enough time, intellectual public speakers will convince you about anything' the other side of the debate had just as much time and made a kinda weak case. america is facing something pretty big. wether or not you believe the war on terror is just (which most of us dont) the question here is what weaponry is going to be used. this kenneth dude makes the argument that the previous tactic was tomahawk missles launched from a far away location which could not accurately discriminate a target. how is a drone attack a worse option? |
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well in practice 'might is right' has taken the reigns of big chunks of our society but yeah im aware that the objectivist theory included some sort of magic wand that would balance power for every individual citizen so no one would have too much force over the other - by everyone being unregulated and selfish but like...all at once, so they all..like.....balance out. what we have in reality wether it's completely down to rands shitty theories or not is a society of lonely scared people with knives at eachothers throats. competition and isolation has made our neighbors and fellows into aliens and enemies. which one of those alien mutant unhumans is going to fly a nanodrone into your dusty old vagina and blow you up? i dont know but its going to happen. |
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Ayn Rand = Jewish |
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