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offline debaser on 2013-06-12 11:38 [#02458380]
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What a world we live in, so much dread and destruction inna
a Babylon, and it’s not hard to imagine it all going to
complete shits pretty soon.

Some years ago, a few close friends and I had laid out plans
for buying our own island, to retreat from society and start
a new page for ourselves, and future generations.
Unfortunately these plans have faded over time, due to our
negligence, corporate enslavement, and fears that I would
turn it into some sort of cult (which is still big on my
list).

So today, exclusively to xlt and you BD techno warriors, I
propose a Hypothetical Island. Let’s discuss the sort of things
you’d consider, if you were actively going to participate
in this. Where would you locate? What would you call it?
Who’d be in/excluded? What are some of the rules/laws
you’d set in place? Would you consider investing in
defense? The most crucial are your needs and luxuries, but
how would you go about sustaining them?

I’d like to spur discussion about this cause honestly, I
don’t see it being farfetched, and it’s definitely an
idea I enjoy flirting with occasionally.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2013-06-12 15:43 [#02458385]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



hypothetical island, on which we get stoned and come up with
ideas for hypothetical islands.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2013-06-12 17:31 [#02458387]
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Name: Pistachio Island
Location: (What is currently) Sully Island. It's £95,000 to
buy it and it's near my house anyway, so I can go home when
people inevitably start acting like dicks and mess it
up/tsunami strikes/people start getting dysentery because
they're poorly disciplined. Also, when the tide is out, you
can walk to the mainland (and there's a pub there).
Law/Political Model: Objectivist democracy.
Military: Swiss model; armed populace, neutrality in
international affairs.
Immigration Test: A single, simple question, agreed by vote
of the existing residents, "Would your presence here make
our lives better?"
Needs: Shelter would be Kifaru Tipis with stoves. Firewood
would be collected from the mainland. Food would be
predominantly fish and vegetables. We would be largely self
supporting. Additional funds needed (to buy sporadic
supplies from the mainland) would be raised by selling
novelty "Pistachio Island Dollars" on ebay for 100 times
what it costs to make them (a bit like Sealand does).

Out of interest, have you studied Micronations at any great
length? I love the idea. The main problems I see are:
1) Getting the 'arbiter' of disputes (or 'leader') to be
neutral/just/disinterested in such a small community.
2) Getting "the right sort of people" to participate and
only "the right sort of people".
3) Getting the rest of the world to **** off and leave you
alone (IE not imposing "their" fishing rights and laws on
"your" territory, without an army to back you up.
4) Having the balls to deal with your internal
issues/disputes/disasters yourselves, without "running home
to mummy" when it goes wrong (see the mirconation ship,
Freedom).


 

offline retape from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2013-06-12 20:08 [#02458391]
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i love coming inside


 

offline magness from astroblaster (Antarctica) on 2013-06-14 11:46 [#02458515]
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Bravo!


 

offline jnasato from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2013-06-14 12:15 [#02458519]
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I have a nation in my room, and it's going aiiight. GDP,
ok. Output to make the world better, ok. Freedom, 100%.
Protected by ninja power. But apparently the whole nation
spends its time wanking and sleeping, so maybe something
needs to be done about that. I'm thinking about building an
amusement park or opening a shopping mall to boost the joy
and economy. It's great cuz everything I sell takes money
from one pocket and puts it into the other, so in that
sense, I have unlimited buying power and nearly limitless
producing power (energy permitting). Sort of has a litter
problem currently, which I gotta fix.


 


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