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Xltronic.com, stop and silently listen to what you are saying to yourself, to the voice in your head. Once you are listening closely, ask yourself the following two questions: Am I the thoughts that are going through my head? Or, am I the one who is aware of these thoughts that are going through my head? |
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Shh... I'm trying to decipher BoC-codes here! |
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What makes you think you could be the thoughts going through your head? The very idea of "thoughts going through your head" presupposes that the thoughts are not identical to you, but are thought BY you. I guess that which is aware of these thoughts is part of you. But you must be more than that which is aware of the thoughts. Thinking is also an activity, therefore you also need to be the active author of (at least some of) your thoughts. |
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Ha ha ha! oh monoid, you little rascal |
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Yeah well, what about my identity? My history? My current feelings? When I say, "I am _____. I feel like _____." Than I am my thoughts. Or do I just describe something? |
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You are what you are Monoid, and if there are self-made purgatories, then we all have to live in them. |
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Je pense donc je suis |
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Eh? I don't have to live inside my mind... |
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"Maybe we weren't meant ..for paradise. Maybe we were meant to fight our way through. Struggle... claw our way up,....scratch for every inch of the way. .....Maybe we..... can't stroll to the music of the lute? We must march to the sound of drums. " that was a captain james T kirk quote, in my head just then. i listened , but i do not think it is me. all the other thoughts though that arnt other peoples quotes and sounds and visuals ? when i talk to myself..? maybe yeah., : ) |
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I think the question is also if you believe the content of this quote? |
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Throughout the day/night your brain goes into different states, in the day time you are mostly in control over your thoughts, it's in a beta state, were the mind goes the man will follow along. When you go to bed you start to get tired and this is were your mind goes into Alpha. Now you are able to process your thoughts a bit more clearly as you are relaxed and more focused on your mind. Then as you get more tired you enter the Theta state, you are in and out of control over your thoughts. This is one of the most interesting brain states because here you can imagine very sureal abstract shapes and patterns, in a way you can observe your brain's own language. It's common to slip back to Alpha state and wonder what the hell just happened for that period of time that you were processing something that seems to important to your subconcious mind. Everyone should be able to relate to what i just said, or have an idea of what this might be. |
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I think you might confuse various senses of the word "to be". It is used in at least three very different senses. 1. To be in the sense of "being identical" For example: "Venus is the Morning Star" means that both "Venus" and "the Morning Star" refer to the very same thing. 2. To be in the sense of predication For example "Ricky Martin is homosexual" means that the attribute of homosexuality is predicated to Ricky Martin. 3. To be in the sense of existence For example "Zeus is" means that Zeus exists. Now when you say "I am depressed" you use "to be" in the second sense. You are the subject of the sentence and depression is predicated to you, the subject. It doesn't mean that you are identical to depression. BUT MAYBE YOU WERE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY AND I MISUNDERSTOOD YOU. |
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Monoid, are you aware of the fact that you are a creation of my hangovered mind ? You don't really exist. Hope that helps. |
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Excactly, Ricky Martin is a homosexual for the time he engages in gay sex. 'I am depressed' means I am my depression, so depression is part of my identity. And identity is something that usually doesn't change over time...or people think that is what identity is. My sexual identity probably won't change, i won't enjoy sex with other men. But of course I could sleep with men. Would that mean i am a homosexual? Or maybe i tell everyone i am homosexual but i have never slept with men, would they believe it? Would that make me a homo? |
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i am jack's hopeless neckbeard |
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You feel what you feel and think. But you are what you act. You can think about killing babies every 5 minutes for 50 years- feeling anger burning in your limbs every waking moment- dreaming of murder every night- but if you're working hard, making people happy, improving your environments, and striving with every action to craft the world into your image of positive idealism- and inspiring others to realize this positive vision with your actions- then you're a fantastic, great person; spreading goodwill and the best of humanity with all you interact with. The world is a better place because of you, despite what's in your head. Likewise, you can constantly think about high-morality and feel you understand some idealistic GOD-human divine lifestyle, but once you start whipping children in your under-church torture sex dungeon, you're not a good person, no matter how much you think you understand about morals; no matter how hard you make choir boys cum pleasurably against their will. In summation, what's in your head doesn't define shit (except for defining what's in your head). That being said, the totality of your conscious-being does ripple through every movement; into everything you interact with. The above examples are hypothetical, but in physical practice, one who acts in a certain way over a long period of time, does tend to fill their mind with thoughts and feelings related to how they act. So in summation of summations: In general practice--- If you wanna know more about how you're acting- what's driving your actions- you can observe your thoughts/feelings. If you wanna know more about how you're thinking/feeling, look at how you're acting. |
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