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yann_g
from now on 2013-04-13 22:01 [#02453845]
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first time is post myself improvising
eh
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freqy
on 2013-04-13 22:10 [#02453846]
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very nice improv.
would be even cooler with stripy animated background.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-14 01:12 [#02453847]
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yanng as all videos on this site must conform to freqy speqs i have taken the liberty of fixing your video
ya!
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freqy
on 2013-04-14 02:46 [#02453848]
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: P
delightful stripy ducks : ) ( aka furby's , enjoying the tune too : )
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freqy
on 2013-04-14 02:55 [#02453849]
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*orange ducks with strips : )
Thanks epics, hope it wasn't to difficult to render that out on your PC.
you rule. :P
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-14 03:13 [#02453850]
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you're welcome, freqy!!
the biggest issue was i could barely even tell how things were syncing up once i started dropping in gurner clones; it lagged out massively. so i just followed the bursts in the waveform
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yann_g
from now on 2013-04-14 06:46 [#02453859]
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thanks for fixing it epic!
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freqy
on 2013-04-14 10:41 [#02453864]
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hey epics, have you heard of placeholders?
its where you take a low bit rate copy of a video track ( one the computer can handle) and then you edit with it. Then just before you do a final render/export you replace the placeholder/s with the full frame lossless codec files and render.
it cuts down on the glitchey. slugish repsonse and headaches on slow pc's.
i use quicktime animation codec allot . its very good indeed. in fact i can use QT animation codec for placeholders ( by lowering the percentage down ) or even do a final render with it as it is awesome at 100 percent. then i convert to divx for net.
freqy : )
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-14 10:54 [#02453865]
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that makes me wince. knowing premiere, if i did that, all the files would be gunked up, out of sync when i replaced them, and then i'd just have to do it all over. differences in framerate, aspect ratio, resolution, sampling rate, what the heck ever. or, it'd shart out, fail to replace the files, and i'd still have to do it over. you can do a preview render, but my pc is slow enough to only bother with small chunks. honestly, i hate the stupid app, and i am really glad i pirated it. i've yet to find a proper editing suite; one that has things as far as after effects. is avid any good? that's one of the few i've not tried yet.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-14 10:56 [#02453866]
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it also crashes a lot. sometimes it destroys me shit and i have to reset the preferences and rearrange all the GUI widgets with the ghastly awful docking mechanics. it insists on loading my VSTs even though i almost never use them in video editing. but nothing else has all the features in there. drives me mental.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-14 11:02 [#02453867]
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honestly, your idea makes less and less sense the more i consider it. what kills my box is the giant 720p video, applying the video effects to that, etc.
if i use a tiny, non-720p clip, it will be out of scale when i replace it. if i use a shit quality 720p clip, it will be just as slow, and busy itself processing glitched pixels instead of clear ones.
this is even worse than your overclocking idea, i'm afraid
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-14 11:14 [#02453868]
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it's also possible that premiere is a big, complicated, poorly-explained mess, and i'm missing something obvious.
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freqy
on 2013-04-14 19:10 [#02453877]
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oh you..........
Always with you it cannot be done... Here you nothing that i say?
I do this in premiere.
keep the same pixel aspect and extension and codec but lower the bit rate of the file whilst editing. Then when y done, change the files to the highest rate you can.
so whatever video file your using from your camera or clips from teh nets,
before you start in premiere convert your clips to two files, a high rate and a low rate .avi or .mov (say 40 percent and 100 percent)
edit in the low , then render in the high.
preview in premiere is like going to the post office.
shame your to scared to overclock your PC too.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-14 22:32 [#02453886]
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so how's that pan out when all the shit pixel noise causes you to set all the chroma keying wrong? do you make after fx compositions with low quality clips? is it easy to replace them in that case?
i'll give it a shot, but i figure it'll be a ruddy mess unless you're doing something simple like editing up a vacation film... but i'm using a bajillion graphical filters, and that's what's lagging me out. already have the preview quality bottomed out...
i already did overclock it (see other thread). shame your reading comprehension is less than stellar. a much better suggestion would be to upgrade the RAM and switch to an SSD (which i've already done).
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freqy
on 2013-04-14 22:59 [#02453888]
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I know, you said your PC isnt overclocked.its back on default and you cant be bothered to speed it up again. You want quad core but cant afford. mainly cant be arsed and as you were scared to fry the CPU . Even though I told you of a great monitor prog for the temps = realtemp,exe. Anyway you gave up with that idea, saying it was my idea, even though hundreds of thousands of people do it. which is where i got the ideas from ( 10 percent overclock is a real benefit. but as you call it : a little bump is of no use)
so i give you another common idea people use when they have a really ...really sh*t PC'. to use lower bit rate files !! but you hate that idea too.
even though you've never tried.
why not just lower the bit rate by 20-30 percent with quick time animation codec . see how much quicker premiere works.
i am just giving you ideas that do not require an upgrade in hardware
as you said you cant afford an upgrade.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-14 23:16 [#02453889]
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the freqy mask slips and we catch a glimpse of the troll behind
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-14 23:18 [#02453890]
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anyways, the answer is: i will buy a new PC in a month or four, depending on my electric bills 'n' shit. and bitch and moan until then
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freqy
on 2013-04-14 23:19 [#02453891]
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Premiere works very well with quicktime .mov files. even on slow pcs.
just by converting to quicktime you may see a great benefit.
program called "imtoo" does batch processing to quicktime formats.
or get the latest quick time codecs and use premiere itself to convert files to quick time.
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freqy
on 2013-04-14 23:24 [#02453892]
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it was me simply relaying what you said scepticofeditingfacts.
And what? you have money to buy a PC!!! after all that!!
: P good.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-14 23:32 [#02453893]
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are you using a mac?
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-14 23:33 [#02453894]
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i don't have the money now. i won't have the money unless i put in extra time for it. and that's no fun, but at this point it's less fun not to.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-14 23:34 [#02453895]
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i suppose jnasato's comment about money's potential to bring out the best in someone has been clanging around in my mind.
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freqy
on 2013-04-14 23:35 [#02453896]
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hello
i use ubuntu mac and pc.
i use windows for editing.
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freqy
on 2013-04-14 23:39 [#02453897]
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if you have an ssd that's really great.
why not upgrade your cpu and ram from ebay real cheap.
just slot the new bits in. : )
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-14 23:55 [#02453898]
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because i want to keep the old one together as an XP box; still use some software that doesn't run in 7. you're really talking out of your behind, duder. about all that'd be worth carrying over to a new PC are the hard drives -- mobo can't take a much better CPU, the FSB isn't terribly impressive, and the graphics card is a cheap piece of shit.
i'd never buy parts off ebay, unless i were desperate. and i'm not; merely lazy.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-14 23:56 [#02453899]
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we've really derailed yann's thread :(
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freqy
on 2013-04-15 00:14 [#02453900]
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speedball
on 2013-04-15 04:53 [#02453902]
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maybe the editing software just dislikes your garbage movies (understandably)
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-15 06:04 [#02453905]
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welcome back dethpeel
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