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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-02-14 02:09 [#02449469]
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cos the 'dark' places of the internet are the only true online social model we can work with now. ill dig up some andrew keen stuff to make it clearer brb
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-02-14 02:12 [#02449472]
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it'll be the places with bare bones social capability that will be unshit when everything gets moshit in about *calculating...
2 years ago
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drill rods
from 6AM-8PM NO PARKING (Canada) on 2013-02-14 02:16 [#02449473]
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-02-14 02:19 [#02449475]
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we'll talk about why we have given up on xltronic later but for now you need to understand that youve had your faded period and everything about this place is about a year away from returning to relevance so keep that in mind and stay alive.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-02-14 02:25 [#02449476]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular | Followup to drill rods: #02449473
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im saying xlt's community is a very acceptable and unique alternative to hyper socialised times where everybodies collaborative opinion continues to make art more politically correct and synchronised. they will eventually corner themselves in terms of innovative/creative product. it will be the lonely, unhappy, jaded, contrary and uncooperative that will breed innovation. we just need a little bit of energy
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-02-14 03:03 [#02449479]
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right ok then ANDREW KEEN ON SHIT U ALREADY KNO - disagree - agree - type nothing <---- (the bad one)
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2013-02-14 04:31 [#02449485]
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Context, context, context... .....and willingness to engage in publicity of self. There is no necessity to engage in the tech that results in publicity.
And the "virtual insanity" shit- it's just making obvious the bullshit superficial nature of people; the masks that most choose to live behind. Putting implications of substance over actual substance. Taking implications as truth. "Hey, he has a crown and wearing a cape, he must be cool and special." Etc. This shit has been going on for hundreds of years, becoming more and more refined. The internet magnifies this by being able to wholly create artificial personas, that don't even have to rest on physical frames.
Trueness stands out much more because of this. We "in ze underground" have complained for a decade about the flood of mediocre and shit electronic music, due to easy tools, etc. However, this has actually magnified the actual quality artists, and unfortunately, has maybe made clear that some artists who were once awesome, weren't actually doing much.
There is nothing to fear. Ever. Just be. Just be the self. That being said-- there is a reason that I put various birthdates and living locations on ze web. No need for the borg to even care.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-02-14 15:21 [#02449517]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular | Followup to jnasato: #02449485
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ok man i dont want to argue about the internet in this thread more than happy to at some other time maybe. im talking about xlt.
xlt is a disconnected dead place. will the ART that comes out of the hivemind be what we XLTRONICS want? its probably not. if its not what we want then something can be done cos we are lucky this place remained disconnected.
but if we cant see things that way then we should all just move to facebook with our art and let it inevitably blend with other peoples ideas and plateaux at a basically unexperimental level.
so theres my argument on why this place isnt dead and is infact one of the few places we can brew innovation. ykno possibly
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-02-14 15:35 [#02449518]
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we'd be happier if we rekindled braindance. aphex didnt make his sound by super socialising which is why it was a sound of its own. it was a very HUMAN sound that championed DARKNESS and gave it energy and optimism. you recon we can do the same thing?
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-02-14 15:51 [#02449519]
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lol, love that stack of videos ampi.
while loner tendencies certainly permeate the mood of braindance, i don't think it's immiscible with being social. it's more you need to put in serious hours to get anywhere, and if you lead an active social life + have a job you don't have as much time to get deep.
to this end, i think the internet is a good thing for this sort of music. you can catch up with friends online while taking a 5min break from making a track as the kettle boils.... schedule a real interaction for the weekend without being bothered by a ringing phone... etc.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-02-14 16:04 [#02449523]
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yeah of course man. aphex was on the net in contact with lots of dudes as was the entire beginnings of the braindance peoples. they were still people in the dark experimenting. none of this cloud stuff.
im not really suggesting a big change. im trying to remind this place that it's relevant and ought to readdress its lack of energy. the death of our little scene was a bit of a bizarre myth honestly, but now that mid 90s sounds are going to come back and over socialised times are going to make people step back from the current approach to art it really is less dead than ever.
- we should start powering up.
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enitan
on 2013-02-14 16:24 [#02449524]
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Want a Girlfriend, Hello?
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-02-14 16:24 [#02449525]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular | Followup to AMPI MAX: #02449523
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the cloud stuff is great for the handshake jockeys -- the people in bushwick trying to promote a DJ night. your event gets "likes" and this is like a video game score. everyone wants the high score. lots of circle-jerking within that crowd; i'll-like-urs-if-you-like-mine. at level 2, you can get your following to like someone else's thing, and this gives you more weight to swing around.... they are like pufferfish.
all this is really unrelated to "experimenting," as you put it. it's the marketing department; we're all in the R&D/engineering wing. i think this is what you're annoyed about: it's easy to log on facebook and get bummed -- "look at all the twats going to this chap's DJ night! art must be stagnating." but it's not, really. most of those guys will be gone in ten years, having gotten too old to party and had kids 'n' shit.
thing is, they aren't the only ones on facebook, just the loudest. there are plenty of small communities like xlt on there, too. for example, one i was involved in lost its message board (artist pulled it) and so someone made a facebook group to replace it....
this board is like an old tree; the roots go deep and members from a decade ago occasionally resurface. that's the wealth.... without that, this place WOULD be dead.
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robbie_eleckt
from time to time on 2013-02-14 16:36 [#02449529]
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i feel good in this thread. hello.
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listen2meTalk
on 2013-02-14 16:41 [#02449530]
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I love it when people smoke too much weed and then post on the internet.
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Haft
from Tublin (Ireland) on 2013-02-15 22:21 [#02449681]
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"Welcome to this house, listen. Would you like a cup of tea?"
"NO NOW I GO I PULL YORE WALPAPER FUCK YORE FRIDGE FOOD I SUTTLE WATCH ME I FUNNEY FUCK YOU MAN"
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-04-05 16:49 [#02453392]
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are your energies nearly ready guys? somthing is happening soon i can feel it
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2013-04-05 18:28 [#02453395]
Points: 7840 Status: Regular | Followup to enitan: #02449524 | Show recordbag
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hehe, nati
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-05 20:17 [#02453401]
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rephlex is about to pass the torch to riced out records, i can feel it
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robbie_eleckt
from time to time on 2013-04-06 09:00 [#02453411]
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it is happening AGAIN
[someone change the giant's face to phob's face with dollars shining in his eyes, I don't have photoshop here]
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-04-06 15:57 [#02453430]
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wether phobs accnt was hacked or whatever the result after all this time was the dubturbo thing and thats no good for our braindance energy levels.
reddit for now? we'll get things on the go over there.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-06 17:06 [#02453433]
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reddit's interface is too autistic for me. don't think i'll ever get into that site.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-04-06 17:18 [#02453434]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular | Followup to EpicMegatrax: #02453433
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just go with it man
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-04-06 17:26 [#02453435]
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i am. that's why i'm here instead of there.
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