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offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-12-03 20:53 [#02445267]
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My trusty MK1 HD-25 Sennheisers are now a bit shabby.
Thousands of hours of use on them and the foam has broken
down, the leather-like material has peeled away etc. They've
also gotten less comfortable the past couple of years.

I would be very happy to replace them with the current
equivalent, but before I do, I thought I'd check to see if
there were any serious contenders worth looking at
first. Are the TMA-1 Professionals actually any good, or are
they the hipster shit that they come across as in their
marketing material?

I want something that is extremely durable, reliable,
comfortable to wear for several hours at a time and most of
all, has an incredibly flat frequency response like the
Sennheisers and not something that 'boosts the bass' or
whatever it is that kids do these days.

Intended application is for producing music and having a
very "transparent" headphone: a sort of headphone equivalent
of monitors. I don't play out any more, so performance when
DJing next to large PA systems is not important to me.
Similarly, they won't be used for recreational listening at
home, with my phone/mp3 player, etc.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2012-12-03 20:54 [#02445268]
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sony mdr


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2012-12-03 21:08 [#02445269]
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It's good to have a few different ones really, as you say,
lot's of people listen on over the top biased headphones and
it's good to hear what they are hearing too, if you are
planning on those people hearing it.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2012-12-03 21:15 [#02445270]
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I've not had to do it yet, but one of the reasons I went for
hd25s was that you could buy separate spare parts - you can
get the pads for a tenner from sennheiser. depends on your
budget I suppose, but knowing that I'd find it hard to
justify spending another £100 or so on a new pair


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2012-12-03 21:46 [#02445271]
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Give the Creative Aurvana Live a go. I have the MDR-7504,
and I prefer the Creative's. They're like a 6th of the price
of the MDR.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-12-04 00:34 [#02445273]
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btw im pretty sure you should be able to replace the foam
pads.


 

offline Geoffrey Mills on 2012-12-04 00:47 [#02445274]
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these companies make so much money out of ppl polishing
turds

im a total anti-capitalist but my empty life means so much
more with some schandenfreude


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-12-04 10:40 [#02445290]
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I have a pair of cheap sennheisers (the really plasticky
ones that seemingly all record stores used for listening
post cans) some Sony overhead nonsense with boosted bass and
about half a dozen pairs of 'in ear' headphones. I used to
often play stuff through several pairs, a PA system, my
hi-fi and in the car stereo when mastering things. I don't
play out any more and I make music predominantly for me to
listen to on my phone or car, so I just check those these
days.

Horsefactory:
Yes, that is one of the other options I am considering. I
hadn't realised parts were quite that cheap, that makes it a
lot more appealing. Plus it'd be cool to have a
"grandfather's axe" pair 40 years from now. :D


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-12-04 10:47 [#02445291]
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Wow £10 for the pair and it includes the pads
and the surround (the bits that are most worn out on mine).
At that price I may as well buy a set for now and spares for
ten years from now.

Refreshing to have a manufacturer that doesn't take the piss
with spare parts costs.


 

offline sneakattack on 2012-12-04 15:31 [#02445297]
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I would go for the replacement pads: hd-25 are excellent
headphones, and I've heard of many owners happily
(maintaining and) using them for a couple decades now. If
you didn't already have them, I would suggest considering
the dt1350s; see in particular the big chart at the bottom
of this post on headfi. But that thread should also give
evidence that the hd-25s are still very respectable
headphones. (If you're curious and want to try a different
headset, I suggest going for a different style (like some
nice in-ear monitors), and not a direct competitor (like the
dt1350).)


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-12-05 09:13 [#02445346]
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Thanks Sneakattack. I tried some stupidly expensive in-ear
ones of friend (who is much more of a pro than me when it
comes to music) a year or so back and couldn't get on with
them. I've just ordered the replacement pads for now (and
for the "top of the head" padding, as that was peeling).


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2012-12-05 21:46 [#02445358]
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More views


 

offline impakt from where we do not speak of! on 2012-12-05 22:29 [#02445360]
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I use the AKG K271 MKII's and I'm very happy with them.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-12-07 12:36 [#02445404]
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Interesting to hear that those Dr. Dre ones are considered
so good. I trialled some (admittedly, in an airport shop,
using a 128kbps Mp3 on my Mp3 player) about 6 months back
and they seemed like the bass was being overdriven.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2012-12-07 13:03 [#02445407]
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I got some of those Dre ones just to hear what other people
are hearing not to wear whilst walking around Asda. They do
have good bass separation, They scoop out some low mid
frequency so the kick drum range and sub bass have their own
space. That's not good if you are Mastering something as you
are not hearing what is actually there, it's just good to
use them along with some other references. I usually trust
my car speakers if it sounds good there than I'm happy. I
don't know what speakers they are though?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-12-07 14:07 [#02445408]
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Yes, I like the "car test" too. If you can hear all parts
with the background noise of engine, air con and road noise
all going, the levels and separation between parts are
probably good.


 

offline sneakattack on 2012-12-08 19:55 [#02445443]
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which headphones do you like?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2012-12-08 21:19 [#02445444]
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if you're a fan of the "car test" and your ride is garaged
in the area, you can get a cheapass FM transmitter for easy
preview.


 

offline anirog on 2012-12-09 00:45 [#02445456]
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Anyone tried Soul by Ludacris?

http://soulelectronics.com/


 

offline larn from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2012-12-09 05:34 [#02445465]
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I agree with impakt you should look into AKG , i've tried my
brothers and can see a big difference in quality compared to
sennhiesers that I own


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-12-10 11:50 [#02445506]
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Which Sennheisers do you have?


 

offline Torture Garden from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2012-12-10 11:58 [#02445507]
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I've used a pair of k271s for years but according to one
website their freq response isn't as flat as the sennheisers
mentioned at the top of this thread and I've had some
interesting (to put it nicely) experiences mixing with them.
Despite being monitor headphones I'm not totally convinced.


 

offline Jaser from Castle Greyskull (United Kingdom) on 2012-12-10 11:59 [#02445508]
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don't know about producing but I have got some AIAIAI TMA-1
and they soud brill to me. aiaiai site


 

offline larn from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2012-12-12 02:11 [#02445599]
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HD270


 

offline sneakattack on 2012-12-13 10:40 [#02445723]
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Ah okay. I started getting into in-ear monitors due to the
isolation, and the flat response. with time, sound really
grew on me. My current favorite set of headphones are
in-ear, even though I have some big cans which cost much
more.

I've been increasingly interested in headphones, but I don't
feel much more educated on this topic than I used to be. My
current standpoint is that all the highly-regarded
headphones beyond $200 are probably pretty damned good; it
comes down to personal taste and, well, personal delusion.
(so it's good you're firm about your taste on in-ear
monitors.) Audiophile forums, with their thousands of
dollars spent on each of headphones, DACs, and AMPs, with
little technical justification of each, creep me out.

Anyway, I don't own a pair of hd-25s, but they're supposed
to be great, and you'll get a lot out of fixing those
earpads. maybe some day you can try some other cans at some
shop, maybe you'll like them, who knows.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-12-13 10:45 [#02445724]
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I ended up fixing the HD-25 with £10 of parts (and bought a
second set, just in case they're discontinued in the next
decade). Now they're good as new, I can't justify the cost
of a different pair. I agree with you about the really
expensive systems. I've heard Drukqs on a hifi costing more
than most people's cars and it's impressive, but that sound
quality just isn't worth the price of an expensive motorbike
to me.


 

offline sneakattack on 2012-12-13 12:09 [#02445735]
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awesome =) happy listening


 


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