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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-12-03 20:53 [#02445267]
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My trusty MK1 HD-25 Sennheisers are now a bit shabby. Thousands of hours of use on them and the foam has broken down, the leather-like material has peeled away etc. They've also gotten less comfortable the past couple of years.
I would be very happy to replace them with the current equivalent, but before I do, I thought I'd check to see if there were any serious contenders worth looking at first. Are the TMA-1 Professionals actually any good, or are they the hipster shit that they come across as in their marketing material?
I want something that is extremely durable, reliable, comfortable to wear for several hours at a time and most of all, has an incredibly flat frequency response like the Sennheisers and not something that 'boosts the bass' or whatever it is that kids do these days.
Intended application is for producing music and having a very "transparent" headphone: a sort of headphone equivalent of monitors. I don't play out any more, so performance when DJing next to large PA systems is not important to me. Similarly, they won't be used for recreational listening at home, with my phone/mp3 player, etc.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2012-12-03 20:54 [#02445268]
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sony mdr
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2012-12-03 21:08 [#02445269]
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It's good to have a few different ones really, as you say, lot's of people listen on over the top biased headphones and it's good to hear what they are hearing too, if you are planning on those people hearing it.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2012-12-03 21:15 [#02445270]
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I've not had to do it yet, but one of the reasons I went for hd25s was that you could buy separate spare parts - you can get the pads for a tenner from sennheiser. depends on your budget I suppose, but knowing that I'd find it hard to justify spending another £100 or so on a new pair
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2012-12-03 21:46 [#02445271]
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Give the Creative Aurvana Live a go. I have the MDR-7504, and I prefer the Creative's. They're like a 6th of the price of the MDR.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-12-04 00:34 [#02445273]
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btw im pretty sure you should be able to replace the foam pads.
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Geoffrey Mills
on 2012-12-04 00:47 [#02445274]
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these companies make so much money out of ppl polishing turds
im a total anti-capitalist but my empty life means so much more with some schandenfreude
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-12-04 10:40 [#02445290]
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I have a pair of cheap sennheisers (the really plasticky ones that seemingly all record stores used for listening post cans) some Sony overhead nonsense with boosted bass and about half a dozen pairs of 'in ear' headphones. I used to often play stuff through several pairs, a PA system, my hi-fi and in the car stereo when mastering things. I don't play out any more and I make music predominantly for me to listen to on my phone or car, so I just check those these days.
Horsefactory: Yes, that is one of the other options I am considering. I hadn't realised parts were quite that cheap, that makes it a lot more appealing. Plus it'd be cool to have a "grandfather's axe" pair 40 years from now. :D
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-12-04 10:47 [#02445291]
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Wow £10 for the pair and it includes the pads and the surround (the bits that are most worn out on mine). At that price I may as well buy a set for now and spares for ten years from now.
Refreshing to have a manufacturer that doesn't take the piss with spare parts costs.
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sneakattack
on 2012-12-04 15:31 [#02445297]
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I would go for the replacement pads: hd-25 are excellent headphones, and I've heard of many owners happily (maintaining and) using them for a couple decades now. If you didn't already have them, I would suggest considering the dt1350s; see in particular the big chart at the bottom of this post on headfi. But that thread should also give evidence that the hd-25s are still very respectable headphones. (If you're curious and want to try a different headset, I suggest going for a different style (like some nice in-ear monitors), and not a direct competitor (like the dt1350).)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-12-05 09:13 [#02445346]
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Thanks Sneakattack. I tried some stupidly expensive in-ear ones of friend (who is much more of a pro than me when it comes to music) a year or so back and couldn't get on with them. I've just ordered the replacement pads for now (and for the "top of the head" padding, as that was peeling).
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2012-12-05 21:46 [#02445358]
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2012-12-05 22:29 [#02445360]
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I use the AKG K271 MKII's and I'm very happy with them.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-12-07 12:36 [#02445404]
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Interesting to hear that those Dr. Dre ones are considered so good. I trialled some (admittedly, in an airport shop, using a 128kbps Mp3 on my Mp3 player) about 6 months back and they seemed like the bass was being overdriven.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2012-12-07 13:03 [#02445407]
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I got some of those Dre ones just to hear what other people are hearing not to wear whilst walking around Asda. They do have good bass separation, They scoop out some low mid frequency so the kick drum range and sub bass have their own space. That's not good if you are Mastering something as you are not hearing what is actually there, it's just good to use them along with some other references. I usually trust my car speakers if it sounds good there than I'm happy. I don't know what speakers they are though?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-12-07 14:07 [#02445408]
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Yes, I like the "car test" too. If you can hear all parts with the background noise of engine, air con and road noise all going, the levels and separation between parts are probably good.
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sneakattack
on 2012-12-08 19:55 [#02445443]
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which headphones do you like?
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2012-12-08 21:19 [#02445444]
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if you're a fan of the "car test" and your ride is garaged in the area, you can get a cheapass FM transmitter for easy preview.
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anirog
on 2012-12-09 00:45 [#02445456]
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Anyone tried Soul by Ludacris?
http://soulelectronics.com/
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2012-12-09 05:34 [#02445465]
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I agree with impakt you should look into AKG , i've tried my brothers and can see a big difference in quality compared to sennhiesers that I own
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-12-10 11:50 [#02445506]
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Which Sennheisers do you have?
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Torture Garden
from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2012-12-10 11:58 [#02445507]
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I've used a pair of k271s for years but according to one website their freq response isn't as flat as the sennheisers mentioned at the top of this thread and I've had some interesting (to put it nicely) experiences mixing with them. Despite being monitor headphones I'm not totally convinced.
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Jaser
from Castle Greyskull (United Kingdom) on 2012-12-10 11:59 [#02445508]
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don't know about producing but I have got some AIAIAI TMA-1 and they soud brill to me. aiaiai site
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2012-12-12 02:11 [#02445599]
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HD270
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sneakattack
on 2012-12-13 10:40 [#02445723]
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Ah okay. I started getting into in-ear monitors due to the isolation, and the flat response. with time, sound really grew on me. My current favorite set of headphones are in-ear, even though I have some big cans which cost much more.
I've been increasingly interested in headphones, but I don't feel much more educated on this topic than I used to be. My current standpoint is that all the highly-regarded headphones beyond $200 are probably pretty damned good; it comes down to personal taste and, well, personal delusion. (so it's good you're firm about your taste on in-ear monitors.) Audiophile forums, with their thousands of dollars spent on each of headphones, DACs, and AMPs, with little technical justification of each, creep me out.
Anyway, I don't own a pair of hd-25s, but they're supposed to be great, and you'll get a lot out of fixing those earpads. maybe some day you can try some other cans at some shop, maybe you'll like them, who knows.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-12-13 10:45 [#02445724]
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I ended up fixing the HD-25 with £10 of parts (and bought a second set, just in case they're discontinued in the next decade). Now they're good as new, I can't justify the cost of a different pair. I agree with you about the really expensive systems. I've heard Drukqs on a hifi costing more than most people's cars and it's impressive, but that sound quality just isn't worth the price of an expensive motorbike to me.
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sneakattack
on 2012-12-13 12:09 [#02445735]
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awesome =) happy listening
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