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offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-09-30 19:57 [#02442104]
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YES it's INTELIGENT TRAP MUSIC.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-09-30 20:11 [#02442106]
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my intelligent trap music is more intelligent than your
intelligent trap music


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2012-09-30 20:18 [#02442107]
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Its all good/quirky/its a trappy, but I like all before :34
best (and after 1:28). Bass drum might sound more gangsta if
like 4x volume (and snaredrum too maybe not sure)


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-09-30 20:33 [#02442108]
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oooh im liking some of the stereo stuff going on with the
little vocal bits, very cool stuff there.

i'd agree with wmw, but instead of increasing volume, maybe
just layer another kick with the low end eq'd out? imo 808s
work best with some other, more aggressive midrangy kick
(like in my linked track)

good stuff tho, the melody is killer, and it doesn't have
any "whuh" or "yeahs" on the up-beat, which is always a
plus.

would love to hear what you think of mine, seems we're
moving along the same trajectory, kind of. maybe a collab in
the futures?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2012-09-30 20:51 [#02442110]
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james bond walks into an intelligent trap!!


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-09-30 21:36 [#02442115]
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sorry man but that's totally post-trap !


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-09-30 21:41 [#02442116]
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post-future-intelli-trap-step-core


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2012-09-30 22:36 [#02442118]
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trappers keepers.


 

offline Haft from Tublin (Ireland) on 2012-09-30 22:42 [#02442120]
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I haven't been as entertained by something new as I was by
that video/track combo Epic, thanks for that. I don't think
I'd listen to the track by itself, though some of the
percussive parts and the bass drop at 0:51 are fairly tasty


 

offline Haft from Tublin (Ireland) on 2012-09-30 22:43 [#02442121]
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*as entertained in a while


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-09-30 23:03 [#02442122]
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i love that sound design in the track of yours. although the
ideas wear out a little after 2 minutes i would prefer
either something suprising or just cutting it off as it will
still be a perfect tool for playing. as far as i understand
this is meant to be more sketch. still i forwarded it to my
dj friend.

all in all, love your approach - listened to a few other
tracks and i'm quite suprised that i haven't visited your
profile before. but ye, talking about strict inteligence my
track is definitely pre-school-era.

although my statement about the length of the track also
applies to your other stuff. imho the whole essence of this
type of music is to make the tracks as compact as possible.
i know from a dj-stand-point that it is pretty much
difficult not to drop the next track after a minute or so.

as to these comments towards my track:

- the vocals ar actually totally stolen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NGoZuxzuBk&t=1m10s.
used these a few times. can;t be arsed about sample
clearance. as you can see that weird panning is basically
built in.
- the problem with the bass drum is that darksideish bass
which uses just so much bottom end in this track. actually
before i applied that heavy side-chain on top of it the
kickdrum was barely audible even being much louder than the
rest of the channels. one idea that came to my mind is to
hipass that darksideish bass a bit, add an 808 kick as
mentioned and repeat the melody, which might end up quite
cool.
- problem is with the mastering that it is pretty crude with
a stock ableton multiband comp on the master just trying to
glue shit together.
- actually i am thinking of erasing that beginning and end
part with that very atmospheric synth and using the preset
in another track. i stumbled about it when searching for
other sounds and now i think i might give it another chance
by itself.



 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-09-30 23:04 [#02442123]
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man, after so many years i still fuck up links...

lazy vocals


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-09-30 23:07 [#02442124]
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- still, as for about 7-8 hours of work, no experience
whatsoever in syncopated sounds, hip-hop, trap music,
sampling, i am pretty much pleased with the outcome.


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2012-09-30 23:41 [#02442125]
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This thread has the best trap music I have ever heard, props
sadist, hedphukker


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-10-01 00:25 [#02442131]
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- well this doesn't really work with that 808 bass
LAZY_bass. i got the impression that making the kick
loudr by even a fraction just makes the track sound like
from a behind a door. also that darkside bass just doesn't
work anymore without the bottom.

- i actually exported this two times in wav, as again i have
just realised how much really mp3 kills bass. actually tbh
when i listend to the first version in wav already the kick
seems too overpowered for me.

i'm pretty much deaf for today.



 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2012-10-01 19:34 [#02442161]
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wait, is this an actual genre? i thought this was just an
admiral ackbar themed stupid nonsense topic


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-10-01 20:41 [#02442169]
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well besides "inteligent" - yes. there is something like
"trap" music.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-10-01 22:40 [#02442178]
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trapknowledge


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-10-01 23:39 [#02442182]
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tl;dr

in a nutshell : lazy trap doc


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-10-02 00:06 [#02442185]
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waitaminute, i just realize...

where's the R in ITR come from??


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-10-02 00:15 [#02442186]
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ahahaha fair point

it comes from the R being close to the T on the keyboard and
typign too fast.

but i had you for a whole two days. not bad.


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2012-10-02 00:33 [#02442189]
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Integra Type R


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-10-02 01:11 [#02442193]
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ugh my first car was an integra i bought off my cousin, who
apparently never changed the oil. spent more rebuilding the
engine than i did the car!

also, classic href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlmFy4-xXQU"
target=_blank>trapper keeper



 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-10-02 01:12 [#02442194]
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damnit


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-10-02 01:31 [#02442196]
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also, thanks for the input d0000d! i've been working on
making my tracks more compact, first draft usually ends up
at like 8 minutes! altho from a dj standpoint i kind see it
as having to different parts you could spin out.

more than anything, im so sick of hearing tracks out that
literally just copy and paste the second half of the song!
so i guess i gravitate towards the polar opposite of that.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-10-02 20:13 [#02442235]
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LAZY_itr 2

LAZY_itr 3

well far from being so well crafted. trying to fuck around
with sound a bit.


 

offline Torture Garden from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2012-10-02 21:48 [#02442240]
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i hope this sound never takes off. i prefer my music dumb


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2012-10-02 21:55 [#02442242]
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i was assuming the topic was all Intelligent TRap
ITM is a company that makes music computers


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-10-02 22:55 [#02442247]
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mr bob dobalina bob dobalina.


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2012-10-03 05:59 [#02442279]
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how long before the sub genre of TARP music takes off?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2012-10-03 06:07 [#02442281]
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Troubled Asshole Record Producers


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2012-10-03 06:12 [#02442284]
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you're doing it wrong


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2012-10-03 07:56 [#02442286]
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so throw a nerd fit about it then


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2012-10-03 08:06 [#02442287]
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ok jiver


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2012-10-03 08:32 [#02442288]
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urbandictionary, of all fings, has a definition:

"In laymen’s terms, Trap music would be best described
as a recipe;

1/3 hip hop (tempo and song structure similar) – however
vocals are usually pitched lower or higher
1/3 dubstep (similar drum arrangements, different builds and
drops)
1/3 dub (Low frequency focus and strong emphasis on
repetitiveness throughout a song)"


that's still pretty vague; hardly a genre of its own


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-10-03 16:31 [#02442316]
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ya already missed it, TARP MUSIC was like 2 months ago!


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2012-10-03 19:29 [#02442319]
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hmm trap has filtered into all kinds of things including the
way everyone says swag and yolo ( LAZY_TITLE )
hedphukker how many trap or juke mutations are going around
at the moment?


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-10-03 20:15 [#02442320]
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at this point it doesn't seem like there's any kind of
subdivision yet - everyone's still just under the umbrella
of trap as far as i can tell. i mean, it took till 2010 for
terms like post-dubstep and future garage to seep out, so i
think we've still got a lil time on our hands.

keep in mind tho that swag came from lowbrow hiphop like lil
b, and yolo came from Drake, neither of which are
particularly trappy (especially not drake!).

PostTrap4Lyfe


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2012-10-03 20:41 [#02442321]
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youre probably right but i thought the post trap post juke
thing was happening a lot lately sort of like this
LAZY_TITLE


 

offline Torture Garden from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2012-10-03 20:42 [#02442322]
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Uggh, I'll be sticking to Drumma Boy, Shawty Redd, Southside
etc. Who have been doing really interesting things within
certain limits (which is for the best imo) for years. I can
see things getting a bit embarrassing once the sound is
recontextualised within EDM.

Also I wouldn't be so sure about the time on your side
thing, before the footwork producers from chicago even had a
proper look in there were trendy white boys swarming all
over their sound desperate to look like the coolest fags
out. Honestly haven't heard 10 tracks that I even liked out
of that scene (the parasitic one, not the original).


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2012-10-03 20:49 [#02442323]
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what would you list as the parasitic scenes? shit like
seapunk for example? im not clued up enough but i think i
know what you mean. i really dont want to make parasitic
stuff and i feel quite often that i am. i probably need some
better influences


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-10-03 21:06 [#02442324]
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you're totally right that the time it takes for white guys
with beards to appropriate a grassroots scene is truncating
rapidly.

fortunately, it also leads to the scene getting burnt out
pretty quickly. this time last year everyone was making juke
and footwork, but now it's back to mostly the dudes who were
originating the sound in chicago.


 

offline Torture Garden from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2012-10-03 21:21 [#02442327]
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I agree. Sorry, I didn't mean to come across like a dick,
but I am uneasy with certain scenes appropriating the sounds
of others. I don't know why I find it so disheartening,
could be selfishness.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-10-03 21:28 [#02442328]
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hey, if you're posting on the internet, it's hard not to
sound like a dick :P


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2012-10-03 21:34 [#02442329]
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Yes, stating white men shouldn't be allowed to be influenced
is the way forward. You daft follower.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-10-03 21:45 [#02442332]
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do you see me saying that this is either good or bad?

i said it's happening quickly, that's all.


 

offline Torture Garden from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2012-10-03 21:48 [#02442336]
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I am not clued up, i don't know what seapunk is. Don't read
too much into the parasitic thing, wrong choice of words. I
know things generally don't work this way but I just want
people to make more of an effort to make a scene of their
own instead of appropriating other (often highly regional)
music. This would be the opposite to what I've seen recently
where, like as hedphukkerr said, the scene gets burnt out
pretty quickly. Regional rap scenes are sort of touching
point for me here, these scenes didn't make themselves
overnight, and they have distinguishing aspects away from
the rap scene in general.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2012-10-03 22:01 [#02442339]
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Is it good or bad?


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-10-03 22:03 [#02442340]
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it just happens, dude. there are things it's good for and
things that are annoying about it.

it's just like, life, man. just go with it.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2012-10-03 22:38 [#02442343]
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Thanks man.


 


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