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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-07-13 11:27 [#02437418]
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the internet has destroyed us
we have seen too many places we will never go to
we have seen to many opportunities that we will never have
we have seen so many things we will never do
it's pretty sad when you think about that everything you do there will be always someone who has done it before and/or is probably better than you
so why do anything at all if it won't satisfy your desires
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melack
from barcielwave on 2012-07-13 11:56 [#02437420]
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amen to that
but you can always be the best you
theres never been a better you than the best of you
theres noone arround that can be you better than you
thats confusing, but i guess you get what i mean...
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-07-13 12:38 [#02437421]
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there is not really any point in being the best of you as it doesn't really matter
the only true way to happiness is consumption in all aspects
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melack
from barcielwave on 2012-07-13 12:53 [#02437422]
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well, you said that 'everything you do there will be always someone who has done it before and/or is probably better than you'
but only you can really do what you do, so you just need to find what makes you different, and take it to the limits...
if you have nice legs, wear short skirt!
why d'you need to be the best anyway?
my happiness resides in the creation process, feeling me doing nice things, not in the result. i dont need to be the best, i just need to feel im doing the best of me i can.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-07-13 13:03 [#02437423]
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that's the whole problem
creation is bound to a receiver. a musician needs a listener as much as a seller needs a buyer
so if there is plenty of stuff to buy, listen to, watch which is definitely of better quality then it doesn't really make sense to throw in your own mediocre stuff. it just makes finding quality stuff much more difficult. think about netlabels
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-07-13 13:07 [#02437424]
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even more - consumption allows to give money to those who deserve it and make more good stuff
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melack
from barcielwave on 2012-07-13 13:35 [#02437426]
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well, i have just heard some of your tunes, but they are fucking high quality, and, if maybe you consider they are not the best, im sure you could easily get listeners, even get some live audience and go places youve never been to play live...
i think you are being quite too pesimistic about all this. ive also had similar feelings, we are used the 90s IDM, where every artist and every album was better than the previous, new and mindblowing. but i think it has changed now, and its all more about the fun and good sound (what you have) than anything else
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-07-13 14:10 [#02437428]
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a real artist can deliver consistent quality which i don't have. i have a few good tracks but there isn't even enough material to make a demotape or even open up a soundcloud account or anything
that's mostly due to the fact how frustrating making music is in general (at least with a computer). really after so many crashes, data losses and different random shit i not only grew tired but also got some weird phobia imagining that something will fuck. you cannot imagine the angst i had after dozens of hours spent on your remixes when fruity loops suddenly started to crash at exporting it. i was at the verge of crying. the only thing that really rescued the situation was that the track was based on only samples and only on stock floops effects and i could easily export it to my laptop and finish it. but srsly what the fuck.
besides that, not taking part in some bigger project or making some track exclusively for someone else i seem not bothered in finishing anything, having dozens of single loops and sektches which will probably never be finished.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-07-13 14:12 [#02437429]
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but yeah, i'm having quite some fun time gaming now. i bought a lot of consoles never having any when i was young. it's so much fun you know just put in a dvd and everything plays right out of the box. no crashes, no shit.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2012-07-13 14:43 [#02437430]
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Finally! LOL
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diamondtron
on 2012-07-13 15:42 [#02437432]
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it has not destroyed all of the ones that were around before it became the norm
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2012-07-15 01:50 [#02437557]
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Well, most stuff in the world is not to one's liking. You could search for the ultimate mustard vinegar tarantula sandwich, but you're not into that. The point being, the things that stand out to you are of your interests. So given that your daily time is limited, you have to choose between eating the strawberry ice cream or lasagna if you only have time for one. So eventually it's a matter of prioritizing likes to the most important and interesting ones, which will determine one's ideal time management. It's not a game of doing muthafuckin' everything- it's a game of choosing what you most want, then going after that.
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2012-07-15 04:33 [#02437561]
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for new electronic artists to become moderately recognized, it's 100x harder than it would of been in the late 90s > because too many bedroom artists can produce high quality audio with very limited equipment, and as a result it's become massively saturated.
If you enjoy making music, you should do it purely for the fun of creating something which is personal to you, your friends and people like us on this forum, who are also very enthusiatic about electronic music
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2012-07-15 07:21 [#02437562]
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your problem is a bit vague .. it seems like you wanted to be a great artist but you have not achieved that because there are other great artists? I think you need to look more to your own individuality and your own proces, fuck the others and what they have achieved. If everyone started thinking like this we'd still be living in caves.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-07-15 13:28 [#02437573]
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exactly! the day is just to damn short to do everything.
and that's the whole point. i'm basically right now doing absolutely nothing for a few months now. well besides going to work. but at home i mostly sit on my pc and refresh facebook.
that's because i'm just really afraid that the things i will choose to do will end up being "not worth it". like music. i would do it if i had the guarantee that it will be succesful or at least more people would like it.
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freqy
on 2012-07-15 13:53 [#02437574]
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if you want to make music deep in your soul., and you feel your not really focused enough to know what to do to make the music you want to hear. Search for some new plugins or try a new vst synth , go to the engineering side hook some stuff together in a new and unusual way, just learn a few new tricks. Cause one weekend you may be right in the mood. and you'll have all these new things to play with and you'll have an awesome time. ....or you could make a cake thread. lol : )
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RussellDust
on 2012-07-15 14:33 [#02437580]
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I understand you. But it does join in a bit with the idea that everything has been said or thought. It's bullshit of course.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2012-07-15 14:44 [#02437584]
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so why do anything at all if it won't satisfy your desires
To put it frank: this is more about having unrealistic desires than anything else. Instead of refreshing Facebook, you'd be better off working on having some realistic desires. Ones that actually help you, instead of limiting you.
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Steinvordhosbn
from London (United Kingdom) on 2012-07-15 17:47 [#02437604]
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Facebook, lol
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2012-07-15 18:00 [#02437605]
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It's not "100x harder than it would of been in the late 90s ". Yes, there are lots of idiots like you 'sadist'. You just aspire to fame and wealth from a shitty effort. Post something that is heart felt or don't post again. You actually mean this right?
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yann_g
from now on 2012-07-15 18:33 [#02437608]
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seeing places we will never go to? when i got to mexico, i searched google images for "mexico", chose the picture i liked most and went there. it was guanajuato, i ate more than wonderful tacos there, and avocados, such a wonder!
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2012-07-15 19:44 [#02437610]
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Sadist sounds like the person who is bothered by not being able to go to mars. Mexico may be too mundane for his tastes.
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Steinvordhosbn
from London (United Kingdom) on 2012-07-15 21:03 [#02437614]
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Too much chance of having sex.
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RussellDust
on 2012-07-15 21:48 [#02437615]
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Come on you cunt let's have some answering my mail!
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-07-15 21:51 [#02437616]
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you have absolutely no idea about how much effort i have put into music/living/etc.
of course i might be just a whinny bitch saying after 1 minute of practice that i will never ever learn to drive a bike. but what would be the point in that.
but that is not it. but that's also not really where this topic was supposed to go. of course i admit i derailed it myself kinda.
my main point was basically that after watching people who have grown up in times before mass media basically tend to be happier with what they do/achieve as they have to match it with a tiny fracture of people from their surroundings. they didn't do a lot of things as they where never aware of them in the first place.
also being somewhat "forced" to your close surroundings people were much more dependent on each other which in the end result heigthened the significance of certain individuals. for example music - not having access to a lot of it you would start to admire your local creative minds.
this is more a "antiglobalisation rant" and the feeling of being very overwhelmed and powerless.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-07-15 21:55 [#02437617]
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the whole problem for me personally is choice. being aware of having a limited time given i would pretty much like to maximize my life as much as possible.
being on a secluded island i would be limited to trying to survive and stay sane, so my options would be rather limited.
i believe that anyone has / had that particular feeling having wasted a lot of time with something that just wasn't worth it.
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yann_g
from now on 2012-07-15 22:39 [#02437619]
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so what? and what do you want to "maximize" your life for? remembering it when you're dead? i've had a rather shitty life so far (well that's how i remember it) but i don't worry too much about it, i worry more about the future than about the chances i wasted. actually i am wasting my time but i don't really think about it. maybe you should accept that you're not who you want to be?
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welt
on 2012-07-16 12:21 [#02437622]
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you say that your desire is to be the very best in some field.
no wonder you're unhappy. this desire seems to involve at least three of the cardinal sins: greed [because you want maximal satisfaction and nothing less], pride [because you want to have higher status than others] and envy [because you don't want others to be as good as you].
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2012-07-16 13:14 [#02437623]
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therefore he is sadist
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Steinvordhosbn
from London (United Kingdom) on 2012-07-16 13:25 [#02437626]
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Theme from Sudden Clearance
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-07-16 13:40 [#02437627]
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i'm pretty shocked nobody mocked the topic name yet. it hurts my eyes every time i see it.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-07-16 13:42 [#02437628]
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sudden clarity
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Steinvordhosbn
from London (United Kingdom) on 2012-07-16 14:37 [#02437629]
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Topic Redeemed!
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2012-07-16 21:37 [#02437633]
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Not everyone has as good marketing skills as you obviously do, and not everyone can come up with a silly name that would be hard to forget
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2012-07-16 22:29 [#02437634]
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sudden monoid
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2012-07-17 01:17 [#02437639]
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Don't be jealous, it'll ruin you.
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freqy
on 2012-07-17 01:28 [#02437640]
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: )
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2012-07-17 02:32 [#02437641]
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You compare yourself to really gifted people. Thats your problem. Why don't you compare yourself to masses of mediocre artists out there?
People like me, who never played an instrument and still make shitty music. Is this nothing?
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2012-07-17 08:06 [#02437643]
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Hey dude.
If it means anything..
I love you. I really do. I love you struggle, I love your suffering, and if where it is, I love your triumphs.
You should just post the music you do have. Also, try not to get to eaten up before you die, if you can.
The world isn't that grim unless nobody loves you.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-07-17 17:48 [#02437659]
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You're a cut above mediocre artists. Plus, you have a great voice.
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