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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2012-07-09 23:57 [#02437235]
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Hi xltronic people.
So my crusty old Akai MPD24 is starting to die and I think it's time to replace it. What are you using to control your DAWS? I'm not interested in keyboards or pads, this will be used for sample manipulation in Max/MSP so buttons, dials and faders are what I want. It needs to be able to fit in a decent sized rucksack.
What do you like about what you use? What do you dislike? Is there anything you haven't tried but want to?
Thanks for your time chaps. Much love.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2012-07-09 23:59 [#02437236]
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Should point out that I was interested in some of the novation stuff but it all looks a bit purpose built for ableton. Something That is just a big grid with loads of buttons and some faders and dials. Preferrably with programmable visual feedback. I know there is something like this out there.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-07-10 00:32 [#02437238]
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sounds like something from livid instruments is what you're after!
they've got the prebuilt ohm64, which has an 8x8 monom-like programmable grid, 8 faders, 8 knobs, and 10 more buttons plus a crossfader.
they've also got a new diy line where you can mix and match components to your heart's content! i've been drooling over a setup like this for a while, but am quite pleased with my mpd26 (w/ big fat pads from mpdstuff.com)+launchpad combo currently.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-07-10 00:35 [#02437239]
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oh man, the ohmrgb looks damn sexy too. i just wish they had more robust looking faders - imo that's prolly the best part about the mpds, is those faders are fucking rock solid and you can really tweak with them.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2012-07-10 01:12 [#02437243]
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Oh god the Livid stuff is beaut but a bit out of my price range.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2012-07-10 04:19 [#02437248]
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well then, from what i understand, you can still program the novation launchpad for use with other programs, it's a great little controller, super light and versatile. i've got it programmed so i can play full songs on it, triggering different sounds, patterns, and instrument types as i go.
maybe a combo of that and the behringer bcf2000 might be up your alley.
id think you could find that for ~$125-150 used, launchpads are like ~$100
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-07-10 08:22 [#02437249]
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i own the bcf2000 and it is a great piece of gear. had a bcr2000 before which was also dope.
together with bcmanager and the bc2000 yahoo group you can do a lot of stuff with it, send multiple messages, sysex strings. it is a lot of fun just trying out new stuff.
the bcf2000 has also a native mackie emulation mode in its' latest firmware which is cool to use for any daw, although the mapping is not 100% accurate at times.
the only gripe with this box is that it has no touch sensitive faders so it's pretty useless for recording/editing automation as you will fight horribly with the faders.
if you really need some advertisement just watch some of the latest performances of tim exile on youtube where he uses 2 bcr2000 and a bcf2000 very intesively.
my next purchase will be apc20 or launchpad again not because the controller itself but their community. the launchpad has dozens of apps in max for live, can be used with every monome application due to an emulator. also with investing some time into remote scripting in ableton you can really awesome stuff. i really recommend this page. the apc20 looks a bit worse for me as i have pretty much no use for these cue/record/arm buttons, and i have faders on my bcf2000.
one interesting option is this new quneo but before i'll see any review i won't waste my time on it.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-07-10 08:27 [#02437250]
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besides these ? build your own.
there is either ucapps or livid hardware builder or you can also make midi with an arduino.
i am a long time user of the ucapps system which requires soldering skills but the system has an incredible potential and has a helpful community. although at the beginning it might get a bit intimidating.
the livid builder is much more expensive but you have prebuild elements which are easier to handle.
arduino is kewl for using it toghether with different sensors like light detectors, piezos and else. learning to program it is super easy.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2012-07-10 19:30 [#02437322]
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I looked at that quneo just before making the thread. It looks nice but yeah, I'd rather let other people take the plunge first. I've been toying with making my own for a while, I've got an arduino just lying around so I think I will. That livid modular gear looks great. Might price up a kit with what I want right now!
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-07-11 09:08 [#02437350]
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i can really recommend teh ucapps system as long as you will use the stock software. it is much cheaper than the livid one and if you feel adventurous, you can reprogram the whole thing from ground up.
you can hel yourself out by ordering stuff from smashtv so you don't have to search for a company etching your pcb's or search for the pic's. at that price these are a steal really.
as long as you just want pots/encoders/buttons this will be a breeze. i guess the most difficult thing (at least for me it was) is to make the front panel. depends if you want to uset panel mounted elements or more sophisticated layering. again - the ucapps forum provides a lot of examples and will anwswer your questions.
i would even mix&match the ucapps system with the livid omniboards as these are have a pretty reasonable price imho.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2012-07-11 11:17 [#02437354]
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id attach this but i dunno how.
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