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the track with the lockgroove is maybe meant to be played -8? |
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Sounds pretty fucking badass |
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i don't think i've listened to this since it was released. for reason |
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so it WAS a locked groove, and not just a shit pressing? |
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sweet |
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Damn thats sick, you can get even more detail out of it with that slower version. Gotta love how much butthurt this released has caused among amateur electronic musicians (some random 16yo kid making better tracks than everything they have ever done) |
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borgnine -- as much as i hate to disrupt rephlex's extensive propaganda network, everyone knows that rich made this |
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still shit |
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Gotta love how much butthurt this released has caused among amateur electronic musicians (some random 16yo kid making better tracks than everything they have ever done) Gotta love hoe much butthurt it causes this random 16yo that he's 16 years too late with this utter shit. |
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naj fuckin 67% where its at :) |
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I wish people would see this over hyped cack for what it is. Yawn... |
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I wish people would see this over hyped cack for what it is. Yawn... |
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it's hard to hate something unless you love it first. it's far easier and more pointless and all to common to be negative rather than positive. some things are just so massif that some can't handle it compared to their own contribution. if one doesn't like something it might be best to save energy and spend it telling us about something good? but then again this is xltronic messageboard. |
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well it's kind of hard to talk about which trax on it i like since im not sure which order the tracks go in. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORf_acLEV5k |
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Skink has a point here, would this have as much attention today if it has been silently released onto, let's say, Planet Mu and then had post-attention? Instead of being leaked out the bumhole for years first wrapped in mystery and then, paired with 7 shades of surprise, released on Rephlex. |
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And would it be liked as much? |
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"Who is this fucker Damn you Steinvord. I want to know who you are." |
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it was silently released by rephlex, even more than it would have been on Planet Mu perhaps, and then had post-attention. |
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Well i meant that it was doing the rounds way before anyone could speak of a rephlex release. |
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So it got attention before that, then the exact same tracks were released, couple new ones, and then very little attention afterwards as far as i've noticed. Most attention it gets i think is speculation of who made it. Which makes people hate it even more it seems. Just the idea that -you must not know who made it!- :O I must mention that i neither love or hate this release by the way, so i'm not trying to take the piss out of Steinvord. I'm curious about how such mysteries around things can give something like music so much more value it seems. |
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Steinvord represents, for me, the last gurgling turd wrought after the last spunk imbibed from the last fanboy's cock before everyone's erections went limp for this sort of battered harlot. |
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it might be that someone merely wants to be private and dislikes being famous or being directly/inevitably/immediately accountable. the mystery thing can be intentional or an unintentional byproduct, can't win y'know? like an anonymous charitable contribution, of whatever merit/value. there are tunes one likes and tunes one doesn't; if one other person gets something positive from a tune then cool. plenty of people don't; either because they are far less or far more evolved/knowledgeable or have had different life experiences & tastes, perhaps either fearing or searching for the un/familiar. How would one go about finding such an artist if they are anonymous; if they just put their tunes up online because they don't want to even send demos to people, if they do not reply to public messages? |
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well then, obviously we've run up against some deeper questions. namely, what's all this then? what's the point? if you make music as some sort of respite, for personal enjoyment, that's fine. it probably won't be very good, because this stuff is complicated enough that casual work won't really set you apart. if you work on music obsessively AND have no interest in sharing, that's indicative of some sort of mental illness. something has caused you to withdraw from society and disappear up your own butt. music is a womb you're using to escape external reality (ironically, this just makes external reality get more annoying as your personal life goes to shit). some people go too far in the other direction, and work on showing off more than the music. these people live in los angeles in any case, i feel like music is a form of communication, and it's sad when someone goes into silo mode, like some autistic kid that doesn't talk. as for steinvord, i think the problem is that rephlex is (mentally) still in the 90s. not that this is not a terrible thing, but they're sticking to their guns to the point of inflexibility. information travels faster now. people have grown to expect more stuff, quicker, along with a wikipedia entry to compulsively digest. the steinvord tracks kicked around the net for five years. after all that hungry waiting, the fanboy hyenas got a very unsatisfying meal. now they're crabby |
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It could easily be so, but.. In this day and age, after that whole The Tuss thing, I personally can't really believe anymore that someone makes tunes that can easily be made by The One Who Shan't Be Named Here if you let a flock of wild forum-members loose on it, and then take all distance from it forever because you don't actually want to be recognized for your own work. Your work that, I assume, you're proud of at least quite a bit. Else you wouldn't want it to be on vinyl really.. I have to admit that I've done a bit of the fake decoy thing too, for a laugh, and I've found that many people try to take advantage of that phenomenon. Hence why I'm a little bit suspicious about these things. Other than that I've given this an honest listen and it was fresh in certain bits but I've never felt listening back to it again. |
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maybe it's a long-term strategy. a rephlex release just deepens the omg afx suspicions, and you ride that over to planet mu for a release that actually makes money, before perhaps graduating to warp fake decoy thing ceased to be funny a year or two after rushup edge, simply because the music stopped. no more tuss, just shit ripoffs and myspace pages with the rephlex logo made into male genitalia. |
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I sincerely apologize for partly helping the fake-era to existence :( |
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plenty of people were happy to have the record, me included |
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why don't people ask whoever why/what/when/where they want to know? why ask people on mboards and settle for those answers? |
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why doesn't rephlex just have a newsletter twice a year? why is the chinese government corrupt? what if your parents never met |
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even if they don't actively encourage this sort of nonsense (a big presumption), they seem to have no interest in quelling it. people just assume they're having a laugh at their fans, or are lazy, or something. that's why people don't write. how are you supposed to write them anyways? their web presence says "go away." GWC has a facebook now, but no idea if there was any way to contact them pre-facebook (except for the long-gone P.O. box). i did write him on facebook, once. boomkat started taking pre-orders on a web page that said "steinvord on mm/dd/yy" and it repeatedly got pushed back two weeks. people got annoyed at the "hold on, real soon now" thing (understandable when you've already paid). so i wrote and asked what was going on. he replied that he didn't really know; he'd sent it off to the distributor and it was now out of his hands. he was completely unconcerned with how it reflected on rephlex. turns out the real culprit was boomkat; they jumped the gun and took cash early. yet, people blamed rephlex because of their own assumptions. i asked him, why don't you keep people more informed? he said, "UR didn't keep people informed, why should we?" UR did its thing before the internets. no surprise they can't fathom people arguing over bullshit information on messageboards when they don't even have an email to write them on up on their web site. |
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"UR didn't keep people informed, why should we?" That really is hilarious, pathetic and embarrassing. |
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that's not how i felt. at the time i felt pissed off and frustrated. it's like watching a good friend sink into drug addiction. when care and concern gets you nowhere, you get frustrated and start yelling. you know the situation is pretty bad, perhaps even hopeless, but you care too much to just let it happen |
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Drexciya didn't keep people informed either. I must say i have written to rephlex and they answered all my questions pretty quick. I got the feeling that they do not encourage or discourage rumours or discussion; they just don't involve themselves and leave us to it. yelling oin xlt which hardly anyone reads won't help or answer anything, just send em an email direct and it'll save all this boring posting. If i wasn;t laid up with a broken leg i wouldn't even be typing, why r u? best wishes to yall :) |
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l8r GWC |
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p.s. hope your leg feels better soon. |
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