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«Experimental electronic» musiciens too often end up with bell-like sounds in their compositions. Fucking tubular bells. Fucking short sines with long reverbs and high pitch on top. Fucking gamelans. Fucking synth marimbas. Fucking hang drums. Plaid are among these sinners. Tapage. Now playing: a randomly found album Cagey House — June Through The Window. Lots of fucking bells in there. Look, there are folks who do not stuff bells in their music and it is still exceptionally original and interesting. Trust me: stuffing bells in your IDM is not cool. Obviously. Bells do not fit in the very concept of IDM. Drum'n'bells. Fuck it. Better than dubstep, but still gets deleted way before the final notes have aired. Placing a NO GMO-like sticker on releases seems not a bad idea. No drum'n'bells. No dubstep. Hooray! No shit for my ears! Definitely a buy then. Loong time no post. |
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This thread is now a Plaid appreciation thread. Game on. |
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No way! |
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But is it really too often though. I never heard many bells, apart from Plaid. Do you have some Autechre bells in store, for example? There probably are examples, but whether those examples are good or not haven't got much to do with those damned bells, imo. |
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As far as I remember, Ae do not have bells in their music, which is a good fact. |
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Aphex using bells? |
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Not in a bad way, if yes. |
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i.e. . It is good despite the bellish sounds. |
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Well, Bell is only his last name, I am not against having bells in last names. Mark Fell > Mark Bell. This has to be said. |
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parhelic triangle has bells and they sound :cool: |
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in your terminal case, i prescript mood bells by cylob |
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IDM is a FAKE genre |
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XMD5a has bells and is all the better for it. |
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Indeed. I never even thought these were bells while listening to the track. Was pleasantly distracted by the overall goodness of the track. → if others do such tracks with bells, it is ok for me. To clarify things, I first noticed the bells problem in Tapage's album Seven. It is great at first listen. Then more than half of tracks goes to trash. A day or two later you can not ignore the bells over nice percussion in the last track you liked the most anymore. And it is trashed. After that I started to notice bells much more frequently in other albums from various blogs. I believe the problem does exist, though several people out of 7 billion can make good IDM even with bells. Not surprised that Autechre can. They are Google of IDM. |
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I like bells in any music genres... There are plenty of different ways to use bell sounds in "idm" or other types of music. It's like saying... Stop using strings in Rock music... Oh, and no more Clarinet in classical music please... Come on!!! I say go for it all.... As long as it makes for a pleasing end result, what are the limitations?! |
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Compare XMD5a to to understand what I mean. |
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This is exactly the case: it doesn't please me. The fuck it doesn't. And no, bells in idm is not the same as strings in rock! One is absolutely not obliged to use bells in idm, while strings are inevitable for guitars. Midi guitar is not a guitar, it is a midi controller in shape of guitar. |
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this one the bell/tuss chime is such a highlight when it comes in. in my fav ae track i dont exactly know where all this hate for bells comes from. they are so rich sounding and im all into temples n stuff right now so i like them loads. thing is i dont really think of proper chime/bell sounds being used that often. i know what you mean about those boring sine glockenspiel style plinkplonks in idm but they are only a chime in the sense they have a long decay they usually dont have any other fun chime properties. |
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I meant three of seven. The link is correct, the link title isn't. |
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Ok, your words are more correct. Glockenspiel, plinkplonks. That's more what I mean. Thread is now renamed to 'Stop using glockenspiel in your idm'. I like parhelic triangle; mentioned that in this thread. No plinkplonks in it, as well as in XMD5a. |
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some future shit i really like fake bells atm |
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i will use all the bells |
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xlt vibrd 19: bell vibes |
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vibes* |
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maphive 6.1 is sort of bell-y too. |
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That is what the thread is about. How can anyone want to compose using such sounds? With these high-pitch overtones... bleh. Or maybe i'm old now and do not physically hear the fun in it, hidden somewhere in super high frequencies? |
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idm is for bell ends |
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Ae can do what they want. We've renamed the thread, bells have become glockenspiel and plinkplonks. I don't remember already, but will risk on saying Maphive doesn't have any glockenspiel or plinkplonks → thank god. |
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Mask them well with all the effects. |
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I thought you didn't remember? But yes it probably has no bells used. But it sounds Bell-y at times. To me. Nice to see you back you miserable cunt. |
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wow im really glad i found this. ah dont worry about my love for tacky synth bells i get why theres no charm in it for a lot of people that actually want to hear good sounds lol. i just like them they stir a weird kind of recycled trash culture emotion. its all sickly nostalgia |
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Plaid are great, thank them for Headspin track. But they are too chimy for my angry taste in some tracks. i.e. 'Marry' |
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Nice to see me back? I'm touched! |
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marry is like my favourite plaid song :o |
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Is it medically nice for them? |
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Shit. I mentioned an album of Cagey House. It has ended, and another album of somebody called Helico Bacter started to play. Goddamn bells from the first note. And you say there is no such problem. |
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these bells here, after it being maybe a decade since i first heard them, still chill me when i play them in my mind. very fearsome bells |
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Have you read this thread thoroughly? |
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Those plinkyplonky glockenspiel bells are typically for the early 2000's. Right at the point where everyone was going for those Ae-lite sounds. Think Funkstorung and the likes. There's lots of good plinkyplonky tracks, imo. But that tapage track you posted isn't one of them. I can agree with that. It's just that tapage album and those newer plaid tracks you dislike, i think. And basically, the glockenspiel has become irrelevant since 2005. |
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gew = few (we knew what you ment, no need to xtra post horsey) |
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bellodies are sort of out of fashion after 2003, is my general opinion. |
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no, threads like this thoroughly bore me |
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It is good that they're out of fashion. So now people only have to stop producing them bellodies by inertia. |
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I'm so sorry. |
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I like bells. And gamelan. And jegog. But you never hear that. |
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Why would people stop using bells (or glockenspiel)? When they should stop using their software TB303. |
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