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That guy had jumbo family size retardation. If the bailiff in court asks you to take your damn hat off, you take it off. Do you think he's going to back down? Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyit. |
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It was kind of a dumb thing to do, but do you think the possibility of this whole situation is okay, or rather do you feel good about being so proud of knowing for sure that you should obey the bailiff and take your hat off if you don't want to get Violenced? |
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Plus everyone's obedience hasn't been trained as well as yours or mine, no need to be smug about it. |
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joe cocker does not approve |
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No soap? Radio! |
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do you think the possibility of this whole situation is okay Yes. It's a good thing for a disrespectful hat wearing douche with an overgrown sense of entitlement to get a beatdown. |
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do you routinely beat people up in the streets for wearing a hat flletmousse |
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Yes but I know it's wrong because I don't have the proper authority. |
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:) |
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Seriously though, that douche thinks the whole world is his moms garage and he can put his feet up on the table and scratch his balls anywhere. Those guys who run that youtube channel are some kind of stoned junior teabaggers who are going to shoot someone eventually, just watch. And it will be over something really important like a parking ticket or a fine for peeing against the side of a building. |
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It doesn't matter if he's a 'douche'. He's got a point. That they try to intimidate him like that proves that |
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Someone post the pic of that black dude with a fro cap... Fro hat- the ultimate justice accessory. |
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I entirely disagree with what you say, fleetmouse, every single word. You just come across as submissive to authority and bigoted toward people you know nothing about. |
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Throwing someone in prison for contempt of court is not a crime. |
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How can you walk with that stick up your bum? |
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course not since its a way to enforce arbitrary power structures whats your point |
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There's nothing arbitrary about it. It's not like we as a society flipped a coin to decide who was the judge and who was the hesher. This guy is not the Gandhi of wearing a hat. He's a clueless dong who thought he was sassing his wimpy chemistry teacher and found out different. |
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kids these days don't know their place |
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Kid my ass, . He's old enough to know better. |
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not sure why you're so intent on making this relevant only to this particular guy, bro (also the kid thing is in response to "sassing his wimpy chemistry teacher", which is a kid thing) |
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it's like, the internet has been taught the fallacy of the ad hominem attack. and they think it doesn't apply to attacking a third person. but it does |
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It's not about him specifically. It's about the vital need for the court to maintain its illusion of authority outweighing his right to be rude and disrespectful. I'd feel the same way if this were for example some uncouth foreigner wearing a turban. |
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Well yeah, but this kind of shit serves to break humans and advantage those who have been better trained to be docile and obedient and know how to play this kind of stupid game ie the privileged. The dude in this case and the guys taping him do come across as entitled assholes looking for any little thing they can sensationalize, but dismissing their stunt as "he's dumb, should have complied" is completely missing the point. Nothing new and nothing particularly thought provoking but you know. |
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i pretty much agree, but sympathize with this guy nonetheless in Holland a Muslim has in fact refused to stand up to a judge because he only respects Allah, some time ago. he didn't get this treatment though, but national airtime, irc |
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Western civilization is an unbroken chain of social hierarchy dating back at least to the patriarchal phallicism of the Greeks. Probably back further, to the dawn of agriculture in the neolithic period which allowed specialization and stratification (you see an incredible veneration for this principle of specialization in Plato's Republic). Anyhow if older more powerful males don't impose their will on younger ones we risk losing everything. Sometimes this requires symbolic acts of circumcision such as hat removal. |
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social reproduction is kool |
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If I ever get a tattoo it will say CULTURAL TRANSMISSION with a tank rolling over some peasants. |
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fleetmouse, you are the least inspiring person on this messageboard. |
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Are you friends with David Cameron, by any chance? |
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Probably when he got to prison, the warden said 'its our policy in prison that you wear a hat'. He was eventually executed wearing half a hat. Actually he probably works for alex jone's lucrative franchise. This video most likely can be seen on prisonplanet dot tits. |
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haha! |
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Being thrown out of the building isn't the penalty for contempt of court. |
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Their lucky the judge didn't notice the video cameras, otherwise two more people could have been going to jail. |
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Not bullshit, do some research. |
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Yes, those authorities committed a homophobic hate crime. That hat was a metaphor for the beautiful act of man love. |
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Its not a bullshit rule. If you were in the process of being tried for something you would probably be thankful that someone who really didn't like you couldn't film the entire thing without a good reason and/or permission from the judge. A lot of laws are still intended to protect your rights and freedoms. Until some people decide to hold a hunger strike against those laws because they do something downright evil, like affecting their ability to wear a hat in court. |
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this has got me thinking... be scared now, here it comes; so when do the bill of rights apply? particularly the 1st amendment? and how come corporate rules can discriminate against them? ie: uniform policies? why can i get fired for not wearing a uniform? isn't that my first amendment right, the freedom to express myself? isn't clothing a form of expression in a free and democratic society? private companies can supersede constitutional law because i have a choice not to be employed by that company? and that's not grounds for bias or discrimination? someone please prove me retarded so i can sleep easier at night. |
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Depending on where you live; the company can force a dress code or uniform, however they generally need to respect your wishes to wear certain articles of clothing for religious medical or lifestyle reasons. The reasons you choose to wear what you do needs to be sincere; you cannot wear a turban because you feel like being ironic, however you can if you are Sikh. That said, they can refuse a Sikh from wearing a Kirpan while at work, because they are weapons, and a lot of workplaces have a strict no weapon policy regarding their employee's dress. At my workplace I am expected to make sure my staff are all wearing their proper uniform. There was a gay male who used to work there, and he choose to wear nail polish and jewelry. It looked very strange, but he choose to wear such things for a sincere lifestyle reason, so we had no right to refuse his wishes. I am Canadian, so I do not know where the bill of rights would fit into the picture, but its my understanding that that is the way it stands in most of Canada and the US. The training seminar I took for human rights and employee rights was based off of an american program. In regards to your last question, I have a feeling the corporation you work for has just as much of a 1st amendment right to express themselves by firing you as you have to not adhere to their dress code. |
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thansk, your response to my last question pretty much proves the point i was trying to make. why does a faceless, non living entity have rights that are allowed to trample my own private civil liberites granted by the document that founded this nation? all because of the freedom to choose? i can choose not to work there, to work somewhere else? they can choose to employ, not to employ me? because their rules are superior to those granted to my private citizen upon birth by the powers of congress? isn't that a little conflicting in theory? sorry, not a big deal really, just annoying that i have to bow down to play in the game. i know, i know... blah blah blah, i have a choice... blah blah blah, suicide. |
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If you choose to work in a job that requires a dress code or uniform, then its still a choice. You are free to quit. You are free to not work there. Your civil liberties aren't being trampled upon. Choosing to work there implies that you accept the dress code as a condition of employment. |
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Alright, good job. Now I can sleep peacefully. |
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most people don't have the luxury to choose their workplace bro |
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YMMV depending on location, education and skills, but most people actually do have that luxury. A lot of people don't seem to realize it tho. |
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Those factory workers just love their job. |
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Lots of people seem to believe life, or society, are fair and it regulates itself pretty well. I think that's not the case. Having concluded life is not self-regulatory, you can choose to be on the socialist side of the spectrum, trying to make things more fair. Or you can choose to be more libertarian, because, for instance, you don't believe the government can make life fair. Either choice is defensible to me. Choosing to believe life and society are fair itself, however, is not. It's kidding yourself. |
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Listen, there's probably a range on the authoritarian to libertarian spectrum that maximizes human welfare and happiness and it's to be found IMHO by observation, not by dogmatic pronouncements. Once it's found a benevolent philosopher-king such as myself should impose the ideal system ruthlessly and without exception. |
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The only dogmatics I find these days are libertarians (yes, I find them on the internet). Lol @ that second paragraph (though for sure there's something to be said for the enlightened ruler, or philosopher king). |
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I watched some Penn & Teller videos yesterday for the first time in my life and I've never hated libertarians so much. Pure human vomit. |
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It's funny, I've had the same experience again and again over the last decade - I start liking some "skeptical" figure in the media for debunking homeopathy or faith healing or vaccine panic, and they turn out to be revolting libertarian asshats. Guys, it's great that you have the two required brain cells to rub together to figure out that Noah's Ark is a myth, but there's this whole ghostly invisible hand of the free market thing you believe in that is no less kooky and spooky. Ayn Rand is not a step up from Deepak Chopra - it's a step to the side, and possibly down a few inches. |
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Omg, the first penn and teller video in google is about dihydrogen monoxide. Ha ha, libertarians, that one never gets old! Telling people scary things about an unfamiliar sounding chemical that turns out to be harmless means that all chemical are harmless! Only dumb hippies are concerned about mercury and pesticides! |
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