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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2011-01-06 21:23 [#02403267]
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has a new mac appz prog a la the iphone/ipad. many appz are too expensive imo but check out the free soundcloud one - it pulls all your followed musicians tracks into an itunes style database/player. It's super nice and convenient=]
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2011-01-06 22:47 [#02403272]
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the app store will be a neat way to bring some lesser known or highly specific apps to people's attention, but it will never be able to flourish as full-fledged software delivery platform.
here's why
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2011-01-06 23:11 [#02403278]
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yes, those criticisms are certainly all valid- i just see it as an additional way to occasionally find things. in general it's very overpriced but it might encourage a lot of small developers to contribute new apps too.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2011-01-07 00:46 [#02403293]
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Up until the osx app store, apple hasn't actually provided developers a format to make it easy for users to install software. I am sure this changes that. I remember how annoying it was to install things when I had a mac. And uninstalling them was worse. So this is good for most osx users that plan on using the app store. However, I think its going to cause problems for the whole software industry.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2011-01-07 01:32 [#02403296]
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It's for mom and dad, not you scary hacker types who know how to edit a url in the address bar.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2011-01-07 01:50 [#02403298]
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Moms and dads are going to ruin technology for everyone.
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2011-01-07 02:12 [#02403310]
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apple is just the first to try and shoehorn a huge chunk of the internet into it's walled garden gateway. I believe amazon are going to have a similar effort for android, i'm sure microsoft and others will follow but in a way it's no different to online software purchases on Xbox live and Wii online.
Steve Jobs sees the desktop computer as the equivalent of a truck and the future will be the analogous cars and bikes of portable computing- ipads/iphones/airs. I don't agree and think it's a step too far but it's clearly central to their business model to have control, stability and easy distribution of software in order to sell their hardware. And they want everyone, mums, dads and gran's to have it. I mean Apple didn't make the itunes store to sell music, it was done to sell ipods without having negative legal issues about music piracy. Everything they're doing is pushing in this direction. It's their long game.
I have to honestly add that i'm not a mac uberfan boy- I use a PC too but tbh i've never had any problems installing on my mac in 5-6 years. It would certainly cause problems for the industry if apple pushed for super low pricing on the software to shift more units but it doesn't look like this is happening, judging by the pricing atm. But at the same time the centralisation does allow very small developers to easily fall on millions of people's radars and make a living. They'll definitely need to improve how they organise everything however. The iphone app store is bursting at the seams and really needs a redesign.
I don't know if it will cause problems for the industry except for apple taking a cut but i suspect that it's going to manly end up catering for small apps and widget type things for a while. If software company's want to sell directly online from their own websites then this is still possible, arguably competing at a lower price without Apple extracting 30% of the fee.
It's convenience for the everyman. . . google search isn't going anywhere=]
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2011-01-07 02:22 [#02403314]
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. . . i mean on that note, their rival google would like to migrate a lot of applications to eventually be running just through their browser- google documents etc. I'd feel considerably more uncomfortable at the thought of an advertising company taking a huge stake in how people use their computers beyond their search window.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2011-01-07 09:01 [#02403350]
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also it saves a lot of people from having to open the diskimage they downloaded to launch a program
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2011-01-07 09:31 [#02403352]
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I don't think of google as an advertising company, even though thats how they make their money. I see them more as a technology company that is trying to make things accessible to everyone. I am not so worried about my life being put into the cloud, because like most people I am completely uninteresting.
I am concerned with the way apple does business, because they are so aggressive and controlling.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2011-01-07 10:11 [#02403355]
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I haven't downloaded the update yet but all I really care about is if they've fixed that graphics card fuck up from the last update that meant I couldn't play Portal properly anymore
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freqy
on 2011-01-07 10:35 [#02403357]
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i has osx on my PC , everything works sept my pci sound .: (
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2011-01-07 11:50 [#02403362]
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Whatever happened to your graphics card, its not apples fault. Its valve's.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2011-01-07 13:41 [#02403370]
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Something happened with the system update in June that Valve said they couldn't fix until Apple sorted something out, I think it was specific to whatever type of graphics card my Macbook came with. I didn't really try to understand it I just stopped playing games because they got all jerky.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2011-01-07 14:08 [#02403374]
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I had a problem in Portal only when it came to the last chamber with the flames. Then it got all jerky and slow... I figured it was because I got the cheaper imac with the nvidia(?) chipset. The rest of the game plays OK, mostly.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2011-01-07 17:42 [#02403387]
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i am continuously confused by people who have trouble installing applications in mac os.
phase 1: open the disk image phase 2: copy the application to your applications folder phase 3: profit.
uninstalling involves dragging the application to the trash.
where does the confusion happen?
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Guybrush
from the white room on 2011-01-07 18:06 [#02403388]
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My mac makes me more creative
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2011-01-07 18:43 [#02403393]
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lol
the confusion is supposed to be between steps 1 and 2: "phase 1.5 : ?????"
learn your memes, buddy!!!!
installing on a mac is RIDICULOUSLY simple though. don't see why anyone would have troubles with it. i guess some people need to design entire folder trees to be able to use a computer.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2011-01-07 20:11 [#02403407]
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psh, i knew that meme before it was a meme.
it's only once you know the rules that you're allowed to break them.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2011-01-07 20:13 [#02403408]
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btw i browsed thru the app store and the only free app im at all interested in is the soundcloud one, which is arguably awesome.
i tried out alfred for a sec, but google quick search box does all that already, and (shock!) more simply.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2011-01-07 20:50 [#02403415]
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btw you have to enter credit card and billing address info just to download free apps.
BBBBUUUUUULLLLSSSHIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTT!!!!!!!
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2011-01-07 20:57 [#02403416]
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it's true though. creditcards give you the street credz. cuz no street credz, no appz
are you a sage?
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2011-01-07 21:05 [#02403418]
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yeah totally unnecessary. I think the worst 'you don't fucking need this' data harvesting is the current facebook security link that says you have low security until you give them your mobile telephone number. soon they'll be asking for a bank statement and photo of your genitals.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2011-01-07 21:58 [#02403425]
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ha ha
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2011-01-07 22:03 [#02403426]
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LOLO
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2011-01-07 22:54 [#02403435]
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In post programs it is fairly simple, but some of them are not so much. Look at CDP as an example.
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