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Yeah bitches, that's Tom Kerridge's label. It's going to be on a 12'' with two remixes, one by ScratchaDVA and another by possibly one of the Blunted Robots dudes. Funk Butcher did one as well. |
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congrats, ramp is so early 2010 tho. |
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admittedly, this track you are linking to, is quite awesome. |
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gratz, but actually the track is kinda bad. |
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Remind me not to buy from RAMP recordings. |
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What's bad about it? |
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tom kerridge is a chef |
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don't worry about it troutmask, both barcode and sadist are stuck in the 90s. |
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The British make much better music than they do food. |
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It's cool, I was genuinely interested. If you were to not buy from RAMP, you'd be refusing to buy Zomby, which would be absurd in my view. |
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i can't really argue with that. |
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80s actually |
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the whole track sounds very cheap. the drums and the pads sound like you used stock fruity loop samples. the bass is kinda nice tough. i guess it would be kind of a nice atmospheric track with a little filter work on the pad, but then after the second minute hell breaks loose. the vocals don't fit at all and totally kill the mood. nice mangling on them tough but "shake that" to a beat like this ? and what is that volume jump about ? that's like the most dj-unfriendly thing you could ever do. i'm actually kinda surprised that with something like this it gets pressed on vinyl. |
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i have absolutely no interest in leaving them |
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genre le mec le gros pro |
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I synthesized the drums and pads. They aren't sampled, nor are they made with digital instruments. I coded them from the ground up. Every sound is exactly how I want it to be. Same with the vocals - I used three 3-second voice samples to make all the vocals you hear on the tune. I don't make tunes with DJs in mind. The DJs who have been playing this tune in London every day have been able to work with the tune quite well, and it is, in fact, on them to make a song they like work with their sets. If you knew anything about pressing tunes onto vinyl, you'd know that they have to go through a somewhat formulaic mastering process before they can be pressed to wax. I trust that the mastering engineer will make the dynamic changes necessary to make the track fit for vinyl release. With regard to the "volume jump" - I don't know, what about it? Dynamic shifts are a pretty standard thing to do in music composition. Have you ever heard a tune not made with a drum machine and synthesizer? A lot of those tunes have varying dynamic levels... |
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it will be released so i guess that means i'm not |
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personally i haven't heard a track before where the loudness goes up suddenly. |
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i always like |
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Congratulations! |
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I followed you on the SoundCloud.. I like the track.. congrats once more! |
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You didn't perceive it as going up to dramatize the entrance of the chorus? That was the idea... it's a "binary contrasting" kind of thing. To be honest I think you're looking at it with the wrong state of mind. We didn't make this song to be danced to in clubs. Two remixes by high-profile UK Funky producers have been done for just that reason. We come from classical backgrounds, not dance music ones. |
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Thanks! Your tunes are really fun and abstract man. Enjoy them very much too. |
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exactly my point - the beginning doesn't build up to this climax. i could assume that a few more people would think like that if the waveform on soundcloud would be hidden. on the other hand you have something on wax and i will never have. so who am i to talk. |
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Oh thanks for listening! If you haven't, try Practic Fast 3- my current fav demo and more exemplary of the finished project. thanks! |
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u forgot to mention the beats. deliberately out of step to make the track sound cool, but all it does it make it sound a mess. then there's the snare, which is out of step of the out of step beats - making it sound like a 5 year old made it. the volume thingy is complete laziness. only an idiot would mix at completely different levels so one sound drowns out all the others - especially when that sound is a badly time-stretched sample from dr who. anyone who says this is good is either tone deaf, has no taste in music or is crawling. better off telling it how it is so the poor so might make a listenable track one day. |
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Thanks for clarifying. It needs a filter sweep. =P |
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out of step?? the rim shots are on the 2 and the E of 2. It's cut time. sounds like you just have no sense of rhythm. also, what snare are you talking about? I didn't synthesize any snare sounds for this song. What sound is being drowned out? Who or what is a dr who? |
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barcode is right. also there is too much reverb. |
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If you can't hear the problems inherent in your rhythm track you shouldn't be making music - even for fun. |
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Well imho the tune isn't bad. It's the mixing that makes the track sound kinda cheap and amateurish. Don't like the kick drum sound. It doesn't really sit well in the track. Snare drum sounds kinda generic as well. Bass misses low end. Where's the sub? it needs to go really low. If you go down this "minimal" route the sounds need to be really well produced and work well with each other. I think the track has potential. composition and atmospherics are good. just the mixing (has nothing to do with mastering) is severly lacking. Congrats with the release thoguh |
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is this what they (people) are calling post dubstep??? or its something else? anyway it was gool and contradualtions on getting on this record deal (i never heard of them though) |
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gool = cool =good |
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the big volume jump did seem to much though i agree with those other people who said that |
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Yeah it's a bit dubsteppy unfortunately. Perhaps I'm just getting old, but I find almost all dub step to be very boring. |
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What snare is everybody referring to?! I made this tune, guys - there's no snare sound in the song. isnie, thanks for your comments. However, is a spectral analysis of the master fader with the bass track solo'd. It's pretty full-range, if you ask me, and the bass is already placing the most emphasis on the sub-frequencies. Also, if you listen, the low-passed drum track that starts off the tune in the beginning goes throughout the entire song. I'm just saying I must disagree that there isn't enough sub-bass in this tune. Despite your other constructive suggestions, I don't think I'll be adding any extra sub-bass. To be honest, I've not heard this tune through the SoundCloud account much, but I just played it here at the studio. It sounds kinda weird at times for me - I can sort of see what people are referring to with respect to the kick. It seems like a lot of the sub-bass in the track is basically missing too. Also, I'm hearing weird clicks (almost like single-sample clicking) in the drums. WTF? =/ Can SoundCloud not properly encode a 24/96 WAV file or something? Tune sounds totally worse as a 16/44.1 128kbs MP3 or whatever the fuck SC does to it. Oh and Barcode, you can go ahead and get fucked. Anyone who makes music for any reason other than for their own pleasure SHOULD be questioned. If there's something so wrong with my "rhythm track" why don't you link me to something you've done and show me how to do it right? However, if your tunes forgo the use of 16th-note subdivisions I'm curious as to how good they could possibly be. |
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jesus CHRIST! That is NOT what a sub bass track is supposed to look like!!!!! Do you even produce with a decent subwoofer? really, have you ever looked at the spectrals from other tracks? clear bass is not full volume at all frequencies below 250 Hz. that image just hurts my brain, and i haven't even listened to the track. okay, i did for a second, but didn't stick with it. either way, pleeeeaaaase fix your sub bass. it sould be one clear peak, hovering anywhere between 60-250 Hz, and whatever upper harmonics you have. basically a sinewave. then you can add a second sine slightly detuned, but really, that is NOT how you produce bass. It just looks like you took a synth with very little bass and cranked the low end on an eq, which will sound muddy as hell. cut out the low end of the bass synth you have and have a sine wave generator play the same line at the lowest or second lowest octave (c0-c1) and you'll be getting somehwere. |
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" is what a proper bass track should look like. it's actually a fully mixed track, but you get the idea. you want that fat low peak, not a shelf. |
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there was no bass whatsoever + me no likes tune, but i dont like any dubstep, so no worries. but dubstep without bass, just goes errr dunno... stupidstep? was there more bass in your original file than in soundcloud? |
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there's absurd overload of bass, which means nothing can actually reproduce it properly. i threw it on my in-ear monitors and it was just this ugly constant low rumble. yeek. |
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I can make better tracks than this on my palystation! |
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I'd love to hear some tunes on your palystation |
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Not feeling |
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I don't know why people are giving you so much grief here. Jealousy maybe? It's a good track. Hedphukker is probably right about the fat low peak instead of a shelf though. It is sort of muddy. Maybe do a separate more focused bass stem for the mastering guy to work with. |
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yeah I think if you'd sit down with the mastering guy a couple of hours it could work well. maybe see if you can give him the separate tracks? so he can do some mixing before it gets mastered. |
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there is definitely a few valid points made in this thread regarding the sound of it. but i see the purpose of a track like this being released, especially when you compare it to whats out there at the moment. i like what you did with the vocals. i don't like the wobbly lfo thing, its not my thing at all. |
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