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yesterday i walked past the local Apple store coincidentally (in the way that it was on the route, but another route would have been shorter), and there was a line of 40~50 people srsly. i lold on the inside a little, but then some Apple guy with an iPad came out the store and bumped right into me, so i could touch it and hold it and play around with it. I was on a sneery "yeah fuck Apple and their nazi business" stance lately, but now i want one. It instantly felt more solid and by that more valid than any music controller / laptop i've seen, the screen is crisp, it is very responsive. It leaves a believable impression of not being a toy. Like, "feel me, don't i feel amazing? With your fingers on this screen, anything can happen. I love you. touch me!" Haters gonna hate, but be prepared to hate for a while cause this thing will most definitely stick around, *prepares booby trap for Taxidermist* |
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oferta ¡nuevo! wwwantzupcom iPad 902365504 Entrega en 24 horas |
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A bloke at work's had one for about a month, I did a software product demo on it. I could not give less of a shit about this toy but I guess people that never grew tired of sticking their fingers into paintings, tvs and your laptop screen will fucking love it. |
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That said I just found a huge pube on my laptop, like an old lady's one. |
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hahahaha funny writing on there |
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It is still an expensive toy for grown-ups. I don't care if people buy them so long as they don't claim that THEY are superior for having one or indeed try to convince me to buy one because it's just so pant wettingly magical. The word "experience" is also verboten. It's "function" you fools. If you do buy one, try not to be some fickle consumer whore and ditch it in a years time when the shinier better one comes out - think of the planet and whatnot, seriously. Finally, no multitasking? WTF? My N900 smartphone does TRUE multitasking, my computer does multitasking... Ipad doesn't. |
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Taking a shit is a function, but not every shit I take is a true experience. |
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fuck this |
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We are selling them in the store Im workin. Some retard bought six of them yesterday... |
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don't sweat it about the multi-tasking business. there's an os update on the line (in a couple of months, at most) after which ipads/phones/touches will have multitask. which they already have btw. but just not for 3rd party apps. |
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Will it be true multitasking though? On my computer and N900 the programs are active even when not displayed. I suspect that the Apple multitask may instead pause the program "in the background" rather than keeping it active. This is acceptable in some cases, but not all. For example, on my N900 I can have the update manager downloading in the background while I send a text, while I have music playing from a youtube in a browser window with a download going on in another browser window, etc. It is a pocket computer. If Ipad can do this sort of thing it will be a better, but still can't fit in your pocket! ;-) |
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current iphones can already run multiple apps at once. i can play games while listening to the music in my playlists (from outside the game). it's just very restricted. if you want to educate yourself some more, here's an article about it: |
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this is a better article Controversy over "multitasking" within the iPhone OS has been brewing ever since Apple launched iPhone 2.0 with the ability to run third party software titles. While often reported as begin a technical flaw, the iPhone OS really has no problem with multitasking. The system's phone, SMS, email, iPod, voice recorder, Nike+, and certain other bundled apps can continue in the background while the user launches another app. However, third party titles obtained from the App Store (including apps from Apple, such as Remote or iDisk) can not be launched at the same time. This behavior is prevented by the iPhone OS' security model, which is designed to close the current app whenever the user returns to the Home screen or accepts an incoming call. This design prevents apps from being able to run in the background without the user knowing, and therefore erases any real potential for spyware, adware and viruses. |
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The current system is artificially limited to a few applications. I find it amazing that in 2010 it is still limited. Why do you have to wait for an update? Why can't it do it out of the box? My Sony Ericsson P1i from 2007 had proper multitasking. For such a "magical" device, Ipad really is slow on what I would consider an essential feature. As a "media" consumption device the Ipad is probably great. As a netbook or laptop replacement it sucks. (Don't forget Jobbo lamenting netbooks for being useless ) I realise that with Itunes media consumption is the name of the game (get your money twice) but it's all a bit sad that there are artificial limitations in this day and age and even sadder that most people seem not to care so long as the device is pretty. |
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That would imply that the applications that are "checked" by Apple prior to being blessed with the ability to install on the Ipad are full of "spyware, adware and viruses". I could understand that reasoning if it wasn't for the fact that Apple must check every program, therefore I call BS. |
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why would you want multitasking on an ipad in the first place ? |
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I still say you can't beat the intense pleasure that your own body can generate by simply manipulating your own genitals. It's free and environmentally friendly. Or is there a spunk slick I am unaware of? |
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To be fair the touch interface on my genitals is much better than any Iphone I've ever laid my sticky fingers on. I also think that Apple fanboys might be more inclined to coo over male genitals* than an Ipad so again it's a win for anatomy. * It's the fact you're in Starbucks with a manbag that gives the game away! |
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nah it can have true background processes (after the os upgrade) though the switching between apps seems a bit awkward. they demoed it some while ago. but, (the standard built in) apps (i've tried) do launch very quick, quicker than most websites load in a desktop browser anyway, so there doesn't seem to be a need to have multitasking just for the sake of a program being instantly available imo... how do you decide that "experience" is verboten but "function" is the aspect that should be of importance? this hardware itself doesn't really bring new functions (in the initial state it is in right now at least), it is solely about delivering on an aluminium platter a smoother experience for these daily tasks than the competition: mail, videos, browsing, some typing.. And i give em that. It's not all flawless, but still very convincingly relaxed and smooth compared to the rest. And you can bet that they're willing to put a lot of energy into very convincing and smooth application development now, so don't worry about this function thing... |
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Fuck Jobs and his Turtlenecks. Fuck the 70s keep insisting on pissing in the future. |
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come on dave. don't be such an apple hater. first you say they can't do multitask, so they suck. and when it appears they already could, you turn it immediately into another point of criticism: they're too slow. well, if you've seen the demo on the new os you may have seen jobs admitting they're late to the party (just like copy/paste), and explaining it took some time because they were looking for an implementation which doesn't drain battery, or severely restricts performance. i dunno, i guess i fit in the apple-zealot box, but that does make some sense to me. sometimes it could make sense to restrict "functions" to preserve "experience" (to use your words). whether this is the case here is debatable. point is, the world where functions is most important is just as ridiculous as a world where only experience counts. so lets just acknowledge there's some middle ground somewhere, where both things can live happily together (and the the anti-apple/ant-pc shit). you're more a function kind of guy - even though performance might not be so good - and i might be more of an experience kind of guy - better performance but less functionality. just getting tired of the obvious anti-apple bias. thats all. |
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This sorts of conversations never get old. They've always got more mileage, more "facts" to whip out. |
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lol i thought you were still living in the early 90s. or earlier. don't tell me you've pre-orderer the new autechre already. |
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exactly and my dong's better than yours. that's a "true" *fact*. the most truest of all Truths. |
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As much as I love to hate on apple for something else that they have made, I haven't spent any real time with an iPad and I can't criticize it. |
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my 2 cents on the background process thing is that apple decided to give at&t a real hot reach around by funneling users towards sms texting How nice would it be to have a chat application running in the background including status notification etc instead of dropping the 5 cents a texting bullshit Apples push api has to do with this as well.... |
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Dont get me started on meebo either! Those fuckers collect all of their users chats & then sell them. Including any intellectual property that might be conveyed via chat |
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ipad will be good for wanking in bed with |
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Sup bredbins. I've not been on this site for years... I will now honour you all with my reasons why the iPad sucks anus, as you masturbate over my superior logic: 1) It's an oversized iPhone, without the phone function. And without the camera. 2) The OS is the same as the iPhones, so it's extremely limited in comparison to a real computer OS, that can be found on similar priced devices (laptops, netbooks). 3) It has no upgradable memory or memory card slots. So that Apple can later bring out higher capacity versions to milk you some more. 4) It has a CPU thats hardly any faster than the 1GHz CPU in my phone. It will be vastly slower than a similar priced laptop because of this. It also has way less RAM. 5) No DVD/Blu-ray drive of any sort. That again is found on similar priced laptops (atleast a DVD re-writer anyway). 6) It has no video output connectors like all laptops have. 7) It has no standard USB ports, instead having a proprietary connector so Apple can milk you some more. 8) The web browser has poor support and many websites do not render correctly. 9) On top of that it does not support Flash (or any other plugin), which even my phone has, so you miss out on more websites. Over 70% of the most popular sites use Flash in some form. Making the iPad pretty useless for browsing, so what else would you use it for? 10) ..Video? well that would be cack too, as it does not have a 16:9 aspect ratio screen, and the screen res is not full HD (1920x1080). 11) Limited multitasking, 3rd party apps have no access to it. 12) Lastly, Master Jobs will dictate what is and is not allowed for you. As obviously you're too stupid to choose for yourself. |
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look, proper trools needs avatar. |
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hahaha. a clear rebuttal to his numerous points. congs |
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shall i bite, i will, yeh i'm not an Apple advocate out of pure idiotism. Most of the points Beany is trying to make are either missing the point, or plain false though. This iPad is not a desktop computer and it doesn't try to be. Nor does it try to be a laptop. Or a netbook. Yes, it's an iPod touch, only bigger. Which makes the touch interface more ... bigger.. and gives you more screen real estate. That's all! And it's a concept that works. That's what i learned when actually playing around with it. (And of course Apple is milking customers. As they always did. In exchange for your money you get a rather slick, well thought out product. Oh hey! hey! I've got a great idea you know! Don't buy it if you don't like it! :D) So why does this concept work? Simple: App Store. I'm reading through Cocoa documentation to see what you can actually make this thing do, and it definitely has its limitations. But, it currently is the only mobile platform where the audio APIs don't 100% suck, for instance. Or do you have some half-way decent sound software on your Nokia? Please don't take this as an offense. The competition isn't sleeping (anymore). So in a year or two, maybe it will not be a pain or plain impossible to make cool audio software for Android, Symbian, or Windows 7 mobile anymore! >:D >:D I recently tried to code something that runs natively on Windows 7. When i opened its hood, huge zombie rats came flying into my face, i got scared and ran away. The Cocoa frameworks are about as slick as Apple's industrial design. It's easier to build a working interface for an iPad app than making a fucking Powerpoint slide. Like i said in the OP, haters gonna hate. But why? |
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o please don't start this again |
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oh but it's so much fun. OK, I'll give it a rest. Let's all just chillax to a bit of this |
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Reichsinspekteur Jobs ripped off James McCartney & others for the audio api & now that he is master of the universe he completely ignores the open source world. When was the last time you saw apple support a major open source initiative? |
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I still love my desktop but who knows I'll get one finally..recently bought an Ipod after many years of resistance for apple |
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is webkit major? o and here's a list |
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Sure, some moves of them are total ass. Then again they're also no charity, and certainly not as bad as, say, BP, or the folks who violently shove Justin Bieber inside your ass, innit. And as long as me-too-and-let's-stick-in-as-many-features-as-we-can-ware such as is the best alternative, oh well... what can you do? |
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they use iPods to let you taste a little of their aluminium, and before you know it, BOOM, they own you! |
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Anyone who faults the ipad for its limited functionality is somewhat missing the point. Apple having been doing computers long enough to know the relative merits of different peripheral devices and propritetry software. It is also smart enough to know it can exhibit a significant level of control by limiting or eliminating external influence. Then there is the consideration that for many users this will by a lifestlye product first and a computer second. Who gives a fuck about USB, what are you going to plug into it anyway? Apple have ntohing to gain from being an open community. As a piece of hardware you could easily argue its underpowered, but only in context or something its not aspiring to compete with. I think the most significant thing apple have done with the ipad is set a benchmark for tablet computing. They've been around for years and from personal experience , always shite. Hopefully the ipad will encourage a bit of innovation and competition. Oh and for the record, apple are shit and they're not having a penny more of my dollar after my ipod fiasco. |
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Terence... all my points are valid, and you said some are false... but didn't mention what ones. Maybe because none are. You was all smart in your first post til you said: "I was on a sneery "yeah fuck Apple and their nazi business" stance lately, but now i want one. " ;( and you call me an idiot. You got to hold a shiney utterly useless toy, and like a kid, it made you want one. Not trying to be rude here, but it's true. Apples business practices and dictating should be enough alone to make anyone not buy there products. And you talk about app creation ease... you know what completely dwarfs apples Cocoa for ease? ... Adobe Flash. You can literally make anything in Flash, it's also cross platform and works on all major OS's, so not JUST limited to apple gear, and it's dev tools are vastly superior than anything apple have. But being the nazi's that they are... Apple dont allow Flash, they wont even allow Flash code that has been converted to Objective-C code what there iDevices use. So just because the game/app/whatever was originally created in Flash they will not allow it, regardless if it's not even Flash based anymore and uses native iDevice code. How ridiculous is that? At the end it all comes down to this... why pay for something the same size, same shape, same weight as many laptops (some are even lighter and smaller)... that is capable of way less in both hardware and software? Theres NO advantage at all. Even for something as simple as sitting down and putting it on your lap, or a table, then a laptop would be better suited for this. But if you MUST have a tablet device then atleast wait for Android powered ones. |
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why do you even bother brosef? |
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Nicely said Guybrush. For me though it's a very easy decision to make, no access to the battery - FAIL. |
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Most normal people want to check their e-mails, look at the news and watch some interesting things. They don't want to be fannying around with service packs and installers so you can have fifteen video cards installed on your bedroom hub. It's like a washing machine with thirty options. Just know what I put in and clean it. |
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. good luck with that ASUS, |
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"ASUS" "special docking station-cum keyboard" |
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its just a big iphone without the phone?? |
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I know they trie that..but I dont have money growing on an apple tree..I didnt buy the Ipod in a store but from my brother for 50 euro's, he got it from his boss for christmass |
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