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steve
from chicago on 2002-04-05 07:13 [#00158794]
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I saw this last night for the first time, it is the best flick I have seen since Memento. It comes out on DVD/Video in the U.S. on Tuesday, I suggest you check it out if you haven't already.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-04-05 07:19 [#00158797]
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I want to!!!
big david lynch fan!
and memento is great, i agree.
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steve
from chicago on 2002-04-05 07:29 [#00158804]
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Ah since you are a Lynch fan I can guarantee you'll like this. Even casual fans will, I think this is the best thing he's ever done.
Yes, including Blue Velvet.
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leftrightronic
on 2002-04-05 07:32 [#00158810]
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never saw it but heard there is a provactive / almost disturbing scene of some chick wanking off
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steve
from chicago on 2002-04-05 07:33 [#00158812]
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To say the least.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-05 11:08 [#00158947]
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Eraserhead is the best thing he's ever done : )
though i agree Mulholand Drive is outstanding, best film in years.
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wizards teeth
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-05 11:15 [#00158949]
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This film is brilliant.
I think it would cause a person to go insane attempting to understand what is going on.
I found the "wanking" scene quite arousing, they are two tasty ladies.
Blue Velvet is funny as, Dennis Hopper is class.
Can someone suggest a list of lynch films to watch.
Teeth
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-05 11:17 [#00158950]
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I don't remember the 'wanking scene'. I thought they had sex with each other.
What do people think of his straighter films like the Elephant Man and the Straight Story?
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-05 11:20 [#00158951]
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all of them : )
Eraserhead is his weirdest and most arty (and my fave)
Lost Highway was similar in style to Mulholland Drive and Trent Reznor produced the soundtrack.
Mulholland Drive wasnt that difficult to understand once you sort out what was a dream and what wasn't, i think the order is mixed up too which is probably why it confuses people so much. I had to see it 2 times before i figured it out, well most of it anyway : )
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-05 11:23 [#00158953]
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Their was a wanking scene near the end
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Jedy
from dublin (Ireland) on 2002-04-05 11:27 [#00158956]
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the wank escene is not really important
you little tosser!
the film is great and if you are going to see the film only for a wank scene you better go a get a porn
i recomend:ass woman in wonderland
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-05 12:04 [#00158988]
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I think elephant man is his best... I challenge anyone not to feel a little bit weepy!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-05 12:06 [#00158991]
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Yeah I welled up. Barber's 'Adagio for Strings' does that anyhowz. I'd be tempted to say its his best too. Its really human.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-05 12:11 [#00158996]
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NOTHING comes close to eraserhead.
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steve
from chicago on 2002-04-05 15:31 [#00159320]
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I apologize, I said it's the best thing he's ever done, not having seen everything he's done. I haven't even seen Eraserhead yet, I hope to next week.
Either way Mulholland Dr. is great, at least we all can agree on that. I love the part where Rebekah Del Rio sings Llorando (Crying).
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-05 15:33 [#00159328]
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I pissed myself at the bit with the two pensioners in the back of the taxi grinning.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-05 15:37 [#00159334]
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It's cool steve, I haven't seen everything he's done either, but nothing I've seen can be compared to Eraserhead. Most of his later stuff is him trying hard to be weird, whereas, E-head is beautifully non-selfconscious. And it has a shitload of pop-culture references which makes it even more scarier
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polar bear
from United Kingdom on 2002-04-05 15:42 [#00159338]
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i thought the wank scene was quite disturbing. so what's with the box anyone?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-05 15:44 [#00159341]
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Who wanked? Why was it disturbing? I can't remember.
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steve
from chicago on 2002-04-05 15:51 [#00159358]
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The masturbating scene was very brief. And it's not like you saw finger penetration or anything, just a girl with her hand down her pants basically, moving up and down very fast. I think the disturbing part was the look on her face. It wasn't one you'd imagine of a girl who is pleasuring herself.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-04-05 16:07 [#00159385]
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What is your favorite scene in a David Lynch movie?
Mine's either the scene in the nightclub/bar in Twin Peaks: FWWM or the first scene with Frank and Dorothy in Blue Velvet...
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steve
from chicago on 2002-04-05 16:52 [#00159443]
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I love when Mr. Eddie beats the fuck out of that driver who flips him off, all the while lecturing him. I don't know how many times i've wanted to do that to drivers who piss me off. What's funny is you see his drivers in the back put their seatbelts on when that guy flips him off.
I also love when Kyle does the chicken walk in Blue Velvet, it's so random, you never expect it.
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steve
from chicago on 2002-04-05 16:52 [#00159444]
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Edit: I mean you see his goons in the back, not drivers.
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keving73
from west palm beach, fl (United States) on 2002-04-05 19:59 [#00159624]
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wild at heart rocks too...
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shibumi
from United States on 2002-04-05 20:06 [#00159628]
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Lost Highway's probably my fav
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-04-05 20:53 [#00159669]
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In wild at heart, theres a guy who sits in a bar, who looks weird. the couple sits. he looks at them and say, in a totally fucked up pitched up voice:
"pigeons spread diseases. you´ve seen that!"
thats so fucked up.
lost highway man here. enjoyed it a great deal. "Fuck you, you fucking fuck". that line makes blue velvet worth watching alone!
straight story. not really like david lynch, but i really liked it anyway. elephant man. yes, you´re hardcore if you´re not touched by that film. wery wery nice.
as a sidenote, my hairstyle is spookily close to davids! i love it.
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steve
from chicago on 2002-04-05 21:10 [#00159679]
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*Does the chicken walk.*
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-04-05 21:44 [#00159710]
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I am going to go see mulholland drive again at a theatre just a hop skip and a jump away from where I live on monday. This is prolly my favorite film from last year, so I am damn exited.
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keving73
from west palm beach, fl (United States) on 2002-04-05 23:11 [#00159812]
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dirty> i believe that guy appears in another david lynch movie; maybe twin peaks? i need to rewatch this one
also, who digs dune here
'THE SLEEPER MUST AWAKEN'!
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-04-11 16:49 [#00167918]
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I rented Mulholland Drive last night. The first 2 hours were pretty straightforward, then DL pulls a mindfuck for the last 20 minutes or so. Classic. I'm going to try and figure out what happened and get back to everyone in a few months.
It's a good movie - not his best! The acting was very good, though.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-12 09:24 [#00169487]
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I love that scene in Wild at Heart where they're drinking outside with Willem Defoe and that guy says something like:
"You haven't seen my dog and yet you picture my dog in your mind" or something. Anyway its class.
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Tasos
from Athens (Greece) on 2002-04-12 09:26 [#00169490]
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...Lynch is just great...
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2002-04-12 09:46 [#00169507]
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The dark-haired girl is just gorgeous. I think the end of the film was a bit lame though. No point of collecting the threads when the rest is so fucked up. But I liked the rest. Only five people who left during the film. Maybe their only Lynch-experience before this was The Straight Story? :)
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 12:32 [#00169639]
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the ending wasnt lame!! why does everyone find it so diffiult to understand? It only took me two viewings to get it : )
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-12 12:33 [#00169640]
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if you want to see a lame ending go see vanilla sky. It explained EVERYTHING! pissed me off soooo much, the rest of the film wasnt too bad either, shame.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-04-12 13:33 [#00169689]
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I love David Lynch, but I haven't seend Mulholland Dr yet. Also, I think Memento sucked. If he lost his ability to create new memories, he wouldn't have remembered that he lost that ability at all.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-12 13:36 [#00169700]
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Memento wasn't Lynch.
Of course he would. You can realise when you can't recall what you were doing 12 hours or so ago.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-04-12 13:42 [#00169709]
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I know Memento wasn't Lynch, someone else mentioned it at the top of this thread though.
Not if you can't create new memories! I was so bothered by that script that I actually researched it--it's called anterograde amnesia.
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shibumi
from United States on 2002-04-12 14:49 [#00169811]
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Pantalamoin: Could you perhaps explain it to me? I've seen it twice and am still a bit confused. (But that goes for most of his puzzle movies, at least for me)
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Omneignotumus
on 2002-04-12 15:11 [#00169837]
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I saw Mulholland Drive twice and after much discussion with my girlfried, we've decided that the first portion of the movie is a dream sequence occuring in the mind of Diane. We think Diane fell in love with Camilla (dark haired woman) and failed in her pursuit as an actress and was manipulated and humiliated by Camilla which drove her insane. As a result she hires a hitman to kill Camilla and then goes insane and kills herself. We've been picking apart the 'dream sequence' which embodies the first 3/4 of the movie. All of the characters in the dream are from Dianes real life and are projected by Diane in interesting ways. For example, in the dream Diane sees Camilla (Rita) as dependent on Diane (Betty), while in life Diane is dependent on Camilla. Diane portrays herself in the dream as the sweet and naive 'Betty' with amazing acting ability, which contrasts with her failing acting career in which she only got roles as favors from Camilla. Almost all of the characters in the dream seem to have obvious concepts or references behind them. The box is strange, we guess it might be a symbol of Camilla's death (a manifestation of the blue key from real life). We think the underlying theme of the movie involves depicting the struggle and horror that a young aspiring actress may have to cope with, and the psychological implications.
Does anyone have a thought on the homeless man/monster and that whole scene in the beginning?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-12 15:16 [#00169843]
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Interesting. I can't remember most of it and will have to watch it again. To be honest though, I don't care if I don't work his films out. What I get out of them is the unnerving atmosphere and the anxiety they cause. I'm not sure the plots are the point. I heard Barry Norman say that he reckoned even Lynch doesn't know. He said he asked Lynch what it meant and he replied: "Come on Barry. Think about it. You know what it means". Or something like that.
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shibumi
from United States on 2002-04-12 15:19 [#00169849]
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I also read that Lynch suggested that most of his films are like dreams, insofar as the objects and people in them are representative of ideas, not always what they are.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-12 15:20 [#00169850]
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Makes sense.
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Omneignotumus
on 2002-04-12 15:20 [#00169854]
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I think he has a concrete conception and builds up the film using symbolism and allusion. I think its great that there is a movie like this that puts forth a challenge instead of spoon feeding the brain.
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Omneignotumus
on 2002-04-12 15:24 [#00169863]
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I wonder how others here interpreted the film. Does anyone catch a wildly different idea from ours? I am interested to see if there are other interesting explanations for how it was arranged.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-12 15:30 [#00169871]
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My girlfriend didn't like it at all. she hated Magnolia too. She doesn't get dark humour at all and thinks its childish (not that Magnolia was humourus but you know what I mean). She hated Happiness too and wouldn't let me get Gummo out from the video shop.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-12 16:03 [#00169926]
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Has anyone checked this site out. Looks ok http://www.davidlynch.de/
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-12 16:11 [#00169941]
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I didn't know he did adverts - CK Obsession, cigarettes etc. Disappointing.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-12 16:15 [#00169946]
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Man, Billy Ray Cyrus was in Mulholland. Anyone notice Angel from Home and Away? Trippy enough in itself.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-12 16:23 [#00169956]
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I'm talking to myself but fuck it. The director in the film is Louis Theoux's cousin.
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