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video game consoles are not upgradeable thus meaning once the maximum performance of the machine is top it cant go further. Computer for the win. |
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Plus the entire modern game industry found out its more profitable to make games with no replay value so you constantly have to buy new ones. The old arcade profit model was quarters, so they had incentive to make them hard and fun. Now they just make guitar hero clones and sports games that are the exact same game only with different team members or something. But its not their fault because they're just reflecting the fail of all the consumers. |
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i like that on a console you can just put the disc in and go straight into a game with a bunch of people with working mics and have a good time, with no setup or installation or extra programs needed. |
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PC is best game console, there is no limits. You can connect projector, joystick, super duper audio system you can crack even modify game you want. You can even create your own game. Game console 9/10 PC 10/10 |
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I'm sure its pleasing to upgrade your PC with the latest video card which is then obsolete months later, sounds like fun. I'd much rather sit on my comfortable couch with my PS3 hooked up to a 42" LCD tv and surround sound. Sitting at my computer doesn't quite cut it for playing games. |
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PC games = hikikomori |
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.some are mouse games and some are couch games. .couch games can be great fun with friends. .wii has no problems being connected to my soundsystem. |
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With my newly built PC, running Windows 7, with a spec exceeding the minimum for GTA IV, the latest version of GTA I can actually play is San Andreas. In 16 bit colour. If I was a big games fan I'd get a console tbh |
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Fortunately I only like handheld games and I have a DS. |
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True, but all PS3/360 games and all PC games maxed out are still disposable compared to 640x480 Super Mario Galaxy. Ultimately it's all about the games, which is why the console war drama is useful. Scary to think what would happen if they didn't exist, most devs would make no money. |
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Haha we're dealing with another generation #2 i see. Consoles = constant performance, PC = variable performance, since you do all kinds of shit with it other than play games, and you need to maintain it yourself, and you -need- to buy a new one anyway in 3 years time or so because it'll just drain it's pipes. And if you're good at electronics, consoles can be in fact upgradable, so, no, i don't agree with you, but that's also because i care much more about gameplay than graphics. |
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Consoles are good for only the fact that they are convenient and easy to understand. |
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Flawed logic. |
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You cant upgrade consoles hardware so easy (for example change GPU, you have to change buses to widen rate of information transfered between individual system parts and etc). You have to be rocket scientist for that. So PC wins. |
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Except, PC doesn't win when new games stop working on your system 6 months down the line, because you have to upgrade again... |
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Until you can play Metroid Prime 1 on the PC, consoles win, emulation is cool and all but it is also a pain since most games aren't perfectly emulated 100%. |
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guys. I have an idea: get both. if you're ever really into games you probably already have. |
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Other than Valve and HL2 what games are worth to play on the PC? I say none, not everyone likes online games like WoW. |
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promise: if my computer tells me ONE more time that something went wrong when loading this or updating that.. i will.. go back to snakes and ladders. i like snakes and ladders. snakes and ladders, nothing wrong with liking it. it's a boardgame, with snakes. and ladders. |
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what annoys me most about consoles: playing third and first person action games with a fucking pad. come on, it's just ridiculous. reaction time and fun factor is so much better with mouse + keyboard. |
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haha, pc wins. That's why most awesome games never come out on the pc right? Get both, play the max of the max of the max. |
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consoles are good for fighting games and racing games (and some sports games). That's pretty much it, everything else is clearly better on the PC--- especially anything that requires you to aim. |
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resident evil on wii is a great shooting game, aim by pointing at the screen, move with left hands stick, now thats shooting as it should be and how i wish it to be continued.. |
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Good call, i completely agree with that... re4 on the wii was fantastic, probably my favorite wii game aside from smash bros. It's just like a classic arcade game with a plastic gun, except you can plant yourself wherever you want. |
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So let me get this straight, PCs are worse because they actually display real developmental progress in short periods of time? I mean, that is what you guys are referring to by PC hardware becoming obsolete, correct? It's not like the hardware itself just breaks, it still works fine, it just isn't as capable as it once was because PC developers actually push boundaries. Don't get me wrong, it's nice to buy a console system and then be able to play games on it for the next 5 years, but the level of progression over those 5 years will be be about the same as 2 years of PC development. Consoles are not upgradeable. Installing a mod-chip so that you can play burned games is not the same thing as swapping out the GPU or adding more RAM, which nightex pointed out. The difference in rendering power between a modern PC and a 360 or PS3 is absolutely vast. First off, consoles can't even display true 1080p. The actual resolution of most 360 games is between 500 and 600p, which is then upconverted to either 720 or 1080. (a select few games can output at 720). Furthermore, they can't even manage to get stable framerates at this decidedly low resolution half of the time, which is evidenced by the stuttering many console games face at one point or another. Obviously the price difference between a console and a good PC is quite large, but the issue comes back to getting what you pay for. I'd rather pay more for perfect performance at true 1920x1080 (1080p) resolution than pay a little and get bad performance at sub-720 resolution. The whole upgrade thing is so over-exaggerated, anyway. If you build a computer correctly, it will play every game maxed out for at least 2 years. Don't hate PCs just because you can't afford to build and maintain one properly. |
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Here are some more links on the myth of HD consoles: |
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But it will be! Check Resident Evil: Darkside Chronicles. It looks amazing too. http://wii.ign.com/objects/143/14328873.html |
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"If you build a computer correctly, it will play every game maxed out for at least 2 years. " and you can usually play everything with pretty beefy settings for 3 or more years after that. |
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I'm sorry Zephyr Twin (my old china), but so what? |
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A console commercial life usually lasts 6 years and costs a fraction, it's a compromise. |
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Well besides the obvious false advertising of "HD" consoles, I simply meant to point out that are legitimate reasons to invest in a PC. My gripe is with people who don't know what they're talking about saying that PCs are worse simply because they can't afford them. For the record, I own both a Wii and PC. I have nothing against consoles, I just don't see the point of buying a system that claims to be HD but isn't, especially considering the fact that every game that is, in my opinion, worth playing comes out on PC eventually. I'll gladly wait longer and pay more for a superior product, but I agree with Sano that it is a compromise either way. |
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Sure. But power doesn't always win. Might be more practical to make music and play your games on the comp. But i like to fire up my Snes you know? Playing the wii (like you said). Using hardware to make music.. |
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I still have my SNES, and it's true that power doesn't always win. Graphics alone do not a good game make, which is another reason I like PCs. It is neat to be able to just fire up a system and play, but I think there is something to be said about a "system" that boots up and then gives me access to almost every console/game ever made, which is possible on a PC with a bit of effort. Aside from PC games, as it stands I have nearly perfect emulation for NES, SNES, Sega master system, Megadrive/genesis, Turbo Gfx16, Arcade, Amiga, Playstation, Nintendo 64, Gameboy, Gamegear, Neogeo, and Nintendo DS on my computer, all playable with controllers rather than keyboard/mouse. The true beauty of a PC is that it has the ability to combine everything that is great about video games into a single unit, while still giving you the option to use your "game system" for other things, often simultaneously. |
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Sure. I'm not saying we won't soon be using one device instead of many, or that it's bad. I just think this thread is silly. I prefer Peter Andre than this thread. |
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Well, consoles are not pointless. Let us agree on this fact and be merry. :) |
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And that a DS game is nicer played on a DS? Come on! Ok i'm merry. night night night |
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cool, didnt know anything bout a sequel :) |
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Well it's all tasks that other folks have made for you one way or the other, anyway. |
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DS games are better on a DS. As for all the other systems I listed... MarXus: ??? |
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I like video games too. But it's just working inside systems that people have created. Thus accomplishing nothing. It does pass the time in an entertaining way, though. You might say the same for music, but I can say for myself that music inspires and spurs me on in my life. And it doesn't hurt that I consider myself a musician. Video games are a fantastic escape. I just hope that it's inspiring for alot of people. |
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I admit that what I've said is very irrelevant to the pc vs. game console conversation. Sorry bout that. |
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Very few forms of entertainment accomplish something other than entertaining us. It's not wrong to want to be inspired, but for many people, being entertained is inspiration enough. |
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Yeah I might be reaching too far. But even if you build a damn bird house you're having a tangible effect on the outside world. |
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Yeah, I respect what you're saying. Whenever I play video games the thought that I should be doing something more worthwhile is always lurking in the back of my mind. What is needed is a video game system that builds a bird house while you play it. |
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Safe one MarXus |
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if you play video games you a children |
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YEah, if you're satisfied with shit graphics. And the aiming isn't that great. The way it moves it not that accurate- your can see it kinda moving in a jerky motion across the screen. I hated X-box controllers at first, but the 360 ones are far better than original ones and it is good when you get used to it. Very accurate. Wii may be more innovative and fun in some ways, but it is also greatly lacking in other major fields, such as graphics and controller accuracy. |
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But its not their fault because they're just reflecting the fail of all the consumers. WTF? You can only buy what is in the shops. What else can you do- write your own games for console? |
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k then, well I guess I am a (plural!) children. ;) And anyway, even if what you are saying is right, which it isn't, what is wrong with enjoying things associated with young people's entertainment? There is a little child in all of us. What's more, most games have lots of violence.... blah blah blah |
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meh meh meeeh |
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