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just wondering |
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autechre, aphex twin, dmx krew, grant from rephlex, ovuca |
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some post very rarely and yet others post regularly |
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idm fake genre fake lie american lie |
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aaah thats why ppl sounds so pitched in here |
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bah humbug famous infamous |
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You've been insulted by LFO on at least one occasion. |
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lol! |
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Kristen Bell from Veronica Mars has an account here but she's only posted a few times. |
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jason holland used to post here too |
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who HASNT cx been insulted by |
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always on best behavior - you never know when you might accountant |
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well if there ever were a fake genre of idm i think LFO was always just on the other side of the fake line. |
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don't crush him, we've all been insulted by lfo. |
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This is true. |
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are there any famous idm people? |
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wats lfo? |
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whats lfo's nick? |
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aphex twin was famous in the UK in the mid 1990s, having his phace plastered on every music/chic lifestyle magazine |
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aphex twin isn't idm though |
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no. but that's just the beauty of this mb..we are all talents who dont want to be famous. We keep it undergound. At least that's what I tell myself motivating myself to post here :-) |
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aphex twin was one of the creators of idm Boii |
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did he invent drill and bass after that? |
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yes dancebrains unite |
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He invented the phrase |
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idm barely existed until around year 1999 when all the world's electronic music fans came online and visited idm list and joyrex.com and xltronic forums :-) then americans brought the idm concepts and ideas, which in fact was nothing to do with career of aphex twin, is just the american interpretation and some other countrys like australia went along with the fake ideas proem, cex, kid 606, flashbulb, proxy, od, deleterboy anything of minidiscs and merck records = idm autechre fans use fruityloops vst make autechre copy it was bad times u look for music "influence by aphex twin" it is nothing ever like aphex twin at all, it is the horrible of "IDM", the fake american interpretation it was a bad time man 2000, 2004 in terms of our culture squarepusher but mainly ceephax kept things goin until reinforcements arrived then there was TONNES of arguments LOADS FUCK IDM FUCK VST it all kicked off bad man blind idm americans couldnt understand the words and only the true genius leader could show them the true path u dont understand those dark times it is not documented then the glorious pheonix awoke in the analord series leads the way to the glorious directions of the future aphex twin the true genius of electronic music rave |
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Be serious for a second and reaize what kinda word you're living in. America is full of peope like Lady Gagafuck and Britney Spears who are reminiscient of The Artist Formerly Known As Prince's jizzdrops. America is a wasteland of talent. No real talent has the lifespan nowadays to make it into big business, unless all the band members look like supermodels or are family relatives to other superfmous hacks. Underground is where it's at. Let the American 'economic' system totally collapse before any real attempts at producing meaningful talent arises. In short, i woudn't give American interpretations of european electronic music a second thought. Nobody really cares what shit come out of their mouth over here. IDM, that sounds hard. |
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what's wrong with minidisc recorders? |
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wait nevermind. Didn't know what you meant. |
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It's true cx - In fact they are going to get together to make a nude calendar in which you can chronicle how long it takes you to appreciate a record. 'It's December and I finally think I understand Quaristice. And what's this, Luke Vibert straddling a EMS100? Christmas has come twice this year.' |
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Since when did America have a massive cultural attempt at IDM? Did I miss something? Because my remembrance is that all of us Americans simply listened to the European stuff... I can't think of a single noteworthy American IDM artist, and I live there. |
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venetian snares is from canada... :/ |
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You can't really make livable income selling a small handful of cds 10$ each. You have to go viral like chocolate rain for it to be worth it. So you need lots of memes, but the most popular memes are the most stupid, because most people are stupid. Burning cds and shipping them and stuff is work, so would need some company to handle that which would take a cut. And the whole 'cd jewelcase' type package is pointless in once sense since mp3s are downloadable. But people recognize that 'in the past people bought cds' so are fooled into thinking there's still worth in them. These are usually the stupid people, so the best thing to sell them is some super meme stuff like 'the top 10 michael jackson songs second edition, revised part 2, limited edition, gold dumbass version'. No, the only jobs available today are fast food or some giant banhammer wielding internet behemoth like google. Soon the latter will go extinct, and everybody but the rich will work in fast food. Then overpopulation will cause food shortage so the fast food workers will be forced to feed their unused body parts to the rich people like tom cruise. Like you can flip patties perfectly with just one eye and one leg, etc. |
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BTW The Flashbulb doesn't count, because he's not noteworthy. |
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Can you keep a secret? |
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do you mean noteworthy as in musical originality, influence over other artists, amount of distribution, word of mouth what? do you think lfo was ever noteworthy? i like his music but i think he always fell in the shadow of the 5 or so "noteworthy" "idm" musicians, ae, boc, plaid and aphex. there were ever only a few notable musicians in this 'genre' so i dont think thats fair. flashbulb has had plenty of recognition, musical merits may be debatable though. |
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lfo has made decent music and also lots of cool collabs (bjork etc). also he is pretty funny on this board, so respect to him for being talented and chilled out. |
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yeah i didnt mean to insult him. my point was that even though he did all that, he wasnt the first artist people would mention when they would recommend idm, ya know? i can count on two hands the "noteable" artists but that says nothing about the ability of all the others, which was kind of my point too. notability is junk |
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and also i want to reiterate that im only using the word idm here in a referential manner. im not saying any of these artists are 'idm' i just hate how clouded the term has become. its the only genre name i know of that connects all these artists, because for awhile, many people DID call them the IDM artists. not my words. |
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isn't LFO two people? much like aphex twin? |
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it used to be two people, now it's just one guy afaik. |
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when you consider how loose a definition idm is anymore, going from untilted to campfire headphase, the only real criteria seems to be that it is a bit cerebral and electronic. so that opens up the door for a lot of american artists to be fairly considered. drexciya, arpanet, dopplereffekt download, plateau, kone richie hawtin not breathing matmos bogdan raczynski richard devine otto von schirach if nothing else still for 8000 bc prefuse 73 flying lotus and more.. |
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personally if i am to categorize music, i tend to use other words than idm. for autechre i could use words like abstract, ambient, glitch, dark, futuristic etc. for boc i could use nostalgic, retro electronics, sunshine, guitars, vocal samples if i am to explain how someone sounds to a new guy i never use the word idm, id rather use other words like the above. works much better. and is more fair to the artist cuz everyone seems to hate idm now. |
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LOL! |
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if you don't like the term idm you don't have a sense of irony and so shouldn't listen to aphex twin in the first place |
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to me it was always just 'electronic music', I never used the other names that came about. i used to say electro for short until someone corrected me that this is another genre inside electronic music. But i am aware that there are many sub genres to electronic music, so much that they need labeling. The thing is where does the 'dance' in IDM come from? because most of this music is listened to at home! btw there have been lots of artists who post on here. the last one was 'orche' and i read in an autechre interview once that they admit they read about what people say about new releases because they are curious etc. So when autechre or aphex, boc etc release something, you can be assured they are here, but most likely they are just guests and not actually registered |
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nobody really gives a shit after i say electronic music. |
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america doesnt deservce idm let's keep it out of reach as much as id want it, i wouldnt want idm nights in detroit weekednly |
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