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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-04-03 13:11 [#00156212]
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Please, use the search feature or even open your eyes to find out if a similar topic is ALREADY created BEFORE you create one.
Too many similiar topics lately... :-/
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-03 13:12 [#00156214]
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Phobia is Right!!! Some responsibility, damnit!!!
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-03 13:14 [#00156217]
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Great Idea....a lot of good conversations are getting lost in the deluge...
Maybe there should be a small point penalty for posting too many topics...
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2002-04-03 13:15 [#00156220]
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Sorry for that Phob, but i only so impressed when i saw that item on ebay
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-04-03 13:17 [#00156225]
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I was going over this idea a long time: you start a thread, you lose ten points. That should make people think twice about their actions and only the things they think important would be posted.
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-04-03 13:17 [#00156226]
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The only problem with the search feature is that most things you search for are in a million topics, but then I spose it wouldn't be that way if there weren't a lot of similar topics...
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-03 13:19 [#00156228]
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Yeah, but it would be nice if you could sort the search you did, like you can with the members - at all possible, phob?
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kalaim badkaama
from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-04-03 14:03 [#00156258]
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right
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Quernstone
from Padova (Italy) on 2002-04-03 14:04 [#00156260]
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Hey Phob, on the point sytem I was thinking that perhaps you could get extra ones if your topic provoked a lot of replies. Say 2 points for every 25 replies. Any ideas?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-03 14:04 [#00156261]
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okey-dokey pig in a pokey
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-03 14:05 [#00156262]
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Too right. And in the tradition of gameshows points should mean prizes.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-04-03 14:14 [#00156268]
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why don't you clear all the posts on sunday morning and then start again. then it would be easier to implement the search topic.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-04-03 14:16 [#00156269]
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Quernstone: That would not be possible since all topics are going off-topic most of the time.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-04-03 14:18 [#00156271]
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marlowe: There are about 150,000 reasons not to do that. ;-)
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-04-03 14:20 [#00156273]
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Jarworski: Sorting by RANK or DATE is possible. We'll try to improve the search-feature even more in 'project x'.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-04-03 14:22 [#00156274]
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ok i see your point - still, all those topics make for a nightmare of a search... but i read that you will be improving the search feature which i'm sure will make it a lot easier
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-03 14:22 [#00156275]
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hehe, sorry phob, I'm blind!
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-04-03 14:22 [#00156276]
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Meho Krljic: That's an interesting idea... which we might have to apply in the future.
But until then, let's hope people will have the sense to create decent topics and not bullcrap.
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Quernstone
from Padova (Italy) on 2002-04-03 14:24 [#00156278]
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Yup, I guess so. I was thinking the other day that there ought to be somekind of 'reward' for a good topic. It would encourage people to get involved. There have been some good topics lately which have provoked a big feedback.
Perhaps you could just select them at your whim and regale them as you saw fit (Not very egalitarian I know).
Q
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-03 14:27 [#00156281]
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I suggested this a few months ago, it was laughed out of court
With hindsight, it's not a good idea
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-04-03 14:31 [#00156286]
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hey i just had an idea --
i know a frequent source of topic creation is people posting URLs for their new songs -- why not either
a) have a seperate section where people can post their new songs (eg "www.aphextwin.nu/newsongs" or something)
OR
b) have a special topic, instigated by webmaster or a moderator which just deals with people's songs?
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-04-03 14:34 [#00156292]
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yeah actually most boards i've visited have separate sections like general topics, artists topics etc.. but i think phobes wanted to avoid that.
the thing is, this board is becoming more of a chat-board now. which i don't mind very much, personally.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-04-03 14:37 [#00156295]
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yeah i didn't mean like joyrex.com - just for people's new songs
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-03 15:04 [#00156333]
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I don't see what all the fuss is about. I think the point system isn't great but would be made even worse if you started having them deducted for topics etc.
I think the reason why so many topics are repeated are because we have nothing to talk about and everythings already been covered. I'd say thats why when new albums are released there is a hive of activity
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-04-03 15:12 [#00156341]
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yeah then there are a thousand topics on the same thing
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-04-03 16:21 [#00156408]
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the rise in popularity of this messageboard is not always a good thing.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-04-03 16:29 [#00156416]
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True.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-04-03 16:36 [#00156427]
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We should cull some people and have an elite. I'm the Wizard so I'll be at the top of the hiearchy. Well, below Phob then.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-03 16:37 [#00156428]
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Bah!
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Quernstone
from Padova (Italy) on 2002-04-03 16:39 [#00156431]
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I want to be a luker forever. Can you fix that please Phob ye of 1000 points.
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Riccardo
from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-04-03 17:22 [#00156474]
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I don't completely agree to this... 1 the 96% of the topic has been used before so it's always difficult to find a new one
2 people seem more interested to some repeated topics such as fav songs/ albums...sometimes they are resumed from months ago and they come to new life(sorry for the poetic words)such as worst afx track and so on...
3 according to me it doesn't help a newbie at all 3a because he/she enters on the mb when everything has been said but he/she can't know it, and he/she has no fault in that
3b because it you who decide if you want to reply, or not because you replied to the same question month ago. A newbie wants to make points as everyone, it' his/her right, he/she wants to create a conversation..no one is forced
I hope you understand
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-04-03 17:31 [#00156488]
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the rise in popularity of this messageboard is not always a good thing.
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Riccardo
from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-04-03 17:35 [#00156492]
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nothing really matters love is all we need everything I give youuuu all comes back to...meee
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-04-03 17:40 [#00156493]
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I dunno, searching for old topics is a pain in the ass... I don't mind topics being re-done over and over. There's always new people that didn't take part in the last one, and there's always shifts in our tastes... I like fresh threads, I don't like digging up old ones with 100 replies, most of which are out of date. The people that posted on it before may have changed their minds since then.
I don't create many topics anyway, so it doesn't really matter. Carry on.
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Riccardo
from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-04-03 17:48 [#00156499]
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I think everyone agree with that, the probem is that no one can be blamed for putting out something old...if you think it's old,past and done you don't read it and in one hour it disappears...otherwise only the webmaster should choose what topics dealing with to end up the question
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-04-03 18:52 [#00156561]
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well......my two cents!
i think a quick search on a topic would be worth the time, especially when a repeated topic is only a couple days old.
i know that sometimes i tell people with the same topic to search for this....or that...because all the info they may need is on another topic that i recall.
some topic's like ......what are you listening to now/favourite track/ etc.....those are cool...because things change daily....and usually those topic's generate a lot of responses and are continued for several days.
what i think phobia is talking about is those 'topics' that don't generate responses.....for whatever reason.
before i post a new topic.....i will ask myself......is this really worth sharing.....and if it's YES immediately then i will post and hope others find it interesting as well....whewwwww
i'm so wordy...ehehhe =0)
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-04-03 19:10 [#00156578]
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ok
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2002-04-03 19:33 [#00156628]
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My opinion (for what it's worth):
The reason there are so many posts/repeated posts is because too many people use this as a 'chat' versus a MESSAGEboard - I'd guess 85% of the posts here are no more than a few words or a response of "yes" or "no" to a prior post. It's a vicious circle - because it's so easy to post quickly, people get into 'conversations' on threads and don't bother actually typing something of substance versus just agreeing/replying to what was just posted. Perhaps if it wasn't as easy to post, the thread count would go down, thus not as many people would post duplicate threads as then they would be able to see what's gone on in the last few days. Another idea is flood control (I dunno if Tune built that in or not) and perhaps the time allowed between postings would increase and thus 'put the brakes' on these rapid-fire posts. I like this board, but it's boiling down to a matter of quantity vs. quality - I'm sure Phob and the rest of you would all like to actually READ posts versus skimming over one-line converstations.
Perhaps everyone should stop and think for a moment before posting/replying. That might increase the quality of the threads and decrease their frequency.
I'm sure in the end it'll all get sorted out.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-03 20:31 [#00156708]
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yeah, that's the problem (if there even is a problem)... it's used as a chat not a messageboard. The best remedy I've heard is to limit, say, 1 topic per person per day... you could subtract points per topic, but points are completely useless so that wouldn't do anything.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-04-03 20:50 [#00156743]
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BE VERY Careful about introducing rules etc...I've seen a lot of Boards go down hill (and I don't mean BOC ;)... after that sort of situation...
each ot their own...if you wanna post simple word replies then people will think of you as a simple 2 word person...take some time and have a discussion and your rep is up there...
But fuck, I like t'madenessss sometimes....hahahahah! (vincent price laugh.,,,)...
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-04-03 21:03 [#00156757]
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I like this combination. Very much. It's a huge success IMO.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-04-03 21:48 [#00156801]
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I SALUTE YOU PHOBIAZERO!!!!! THIS MESSAGEBOARD IS A SUCCESS...THE ORGANIZED KAIOS GET TO ME SOMETIMES....BUT ILL BE OK.
RICHARD RELEASE MORE MUSIC SO WE HAVE SHIT TO TALK ABOUT....YOUR PAL RECYCLE.
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-04-04 00:22 [#00157000]
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i have to say taht what joyrex said was well put. i completely agree.
i think that maybe a part of the problem is related to the points system. some people continuously post just to get more points! sure, having a lot of points is kind of fun, but in the end, it's a pretty arbritrary concept. if it encourages good/intelligent/funny/interesting discussions, than it's good. but if it makes people start pointless threads...
but dont get me wrong, i like the points system. i think it's an original idea. my compliments to whoever thought it up :)
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-04 00:28 [#00157010]
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damnit that was MY idea...meho just multiplied the negative points by 10...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-04-04 00:31 [#00157016]
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I DON'T think it's the point system. It was like this back when V4 was around, too. Lot's of ''chats''... I may have a huge point total (stop making fun of me), but I average like 180 characters a post. I try not to just spam little posts everywhere.
Which I don't mind at all. There's lots of good topics, too... this board is damn busy... there's been a bunch of interesting topics made today. I ignore the bad stuff.
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-04-04 00:39 [#00157036]
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ophecks: if your talking to me, i want to say i wasnt refering to you or anyone who has a lot of points in particular ;) it was just a hypothesis (is that a word in english -------> hypothèse?) .
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-04-04 00:42 [#00157044]
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Haha! Naw, don't worry, I know you weren't slagging me or singling me out.
:-)
And if you did... I have more points, so I'm better than you anyway. ;-)
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-04-04 00:44 [#00157049]
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hehehe so by that logic, youre better than the almighty phobiazero! ;)
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-04 00:45 [#00157051]
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hypothesis IS a word...
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-04-04 00:47 [#00157054]
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i have no clue where phob gets his points...i hardly see him post...and next thing i know he's got an additional 100+points...
i think he just adds them on when no-one is looking.
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