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cx
from Norway on 2009-07-25 06:48 [#02309574]
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Anyone ever feel like people, especially strangers, are by default quite hostile against everyone they don't know?
If someone intrudes or tries to act like they are friends, people just get rejected quite harshly if any kind of argument arises.
It's even like this in TV shows. I remember I read on a forum about Lost, and people were annoyed by all the other people on the island who suddenly were friends with the regulars. I even felt like this myself.
It just feels like people are actually quite reserved and 'hostile' inside but may hide it when they're talking to you.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-07-25 07:25 [#02309585]
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people is not perfect coax, that goes for me and for you as well, it's not possible to see suspect everywhere and say that it's always other's fault.
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Steinvordhosbn
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-07-25 07:29 [#02309587]
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I've got a right to be hostile! My people have been persecuted!
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cx
from Norway on 2009-07-25 07:35 [#02309588]
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can you elaborate a bit on that? wasnt quite sure what you meant
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-07-25 07:36 [#02309589]
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You must see people as being hostile because you might be trying to seek a friendship in strangers, which a lot of people would rather say fuck off. Because in this world a lot of people are hardened or bittered by things that happen to them, so they're not gonna go out of their way to be nice. I agree with this, except at the end of the day it doesn't make me feel any better, it usually makes me feel more pissy, so i just try to enjoy my life experience with out expecting anybody else to enjoy with me. I would rther people not like me than like me, because besides my family and personal life, i don't want to have a "social" life with any dumbass who just wants to play the 2-way game of getting one over on each other.
I guess it's just how you look at things.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-07-25 07:41 [#02309591]
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I guess it's just how you look at things.
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cx
from Norway on 2009-07-25 08:27 [#02309602]
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food for thought..
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2009-07-25 09:04 [#02309607]
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i understand where you're coming from, but personally have a totally opposite view. i do see many people sharing your point of view though, but i think it's their loss. so much presupposed negativity for the rare occasions it actually fits reality. there are still an awful lot of situations where a more positive point of view would create so much more joy. and why the negativity? i guess it's nothing more than fear which is rationalized by all the crap you get to see every night on the news.
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Guybrush
from the white room on 2009-07-25 09:04 [#02309608]
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they're probably just hostile to one dimensional fuckwits like you
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pigster
from melbs on 2009-07-25 09:16 [#02309614]
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Anyone ever feel like people, especially strangers, are by
default quite hostile against everyone they don't know?
this kinda refers to me more than anyone i know. i'm way to biased against people i dont know. one quick glance and i'm happy to assume they're not worth any time or effect.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-07-25 09:21 [#02309616]
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yeah that and also, this type of negativity is embedded in the society at least where i live, everything is fast and fake. So enjoying something is a personal experience. I'm not saying that i prefer negativity, but when it presents itself, you could say i'm not unprepared.
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cx
from Norway on 2009-07-25 09:46 [#02309622]
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hook line sinker
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2009-07-25 09:50 [#02309624]
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All the time !
I tend to have high energy, which people don't seem to like. The only people who dig this are crazies and desperate people.
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Guybrush
from the white room on 2009-07-25 09:58 [#02309625]
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well its probably true you tit. what can i say? some people are hostile, in my experience mostly not, so maybe it is just you.
oh and don pretend you were trying to reel me in. you can cut that shit out.
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gingaling
from Scamworth (Burkina Faso) on 2009-07-25 10:03 [#02309626]
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drugs were made for this very reason.
put a load of the most hostile fuckers in a room with a big bowl of punch laced with mdma, i bet the hostility is dissapated.
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Advocate
on 2009-07-25 10:05 [#02309627]
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get out more.
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2009-07-25 10:07 [#02309628]
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mmm, I think that people can be very hostile, but it all depends on how the new person is acting. If you go into a room, and act as if you don't want to be there, or try to be the centre of attention, then people will immediately be hostile towards you, and want you to fuck off.
However, I think that if you act as if you're happy to be there, and have open body language, people will want to find out about you, and make you very welcome.
If you find people overly hostile, the chances are that they are responding to your behaviour and body language.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-07-25 10:18 [#02309632]
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some real advice, try your hardest to let the water roll of of your back. It might be hard sometimes when you feel you're engaged in the situation. But think about it, you're not gonna spend your whole life involved with random hostile strangers, or people who try to belittle others over a messageboard.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-07-25 10:20 [#02309633]
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theres people who spend a lifetime wanking to other's pros and cons, and they never gonna get it
you might not wanna do so
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-07-25 10:22 [#02309634]
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i knew you were up to something good
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-07-25 10:27 [#02309635]
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also, i think people should omit the term "strangers" from their vocabulary.
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2009-07-25 10:29 [#02309636]
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Why?
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-07-25 10:32 [#02309637]
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Just because when you use that term it sets you apart from others and makes it seem like people who are "strangers" are part of a giant group along with all the other people you don't know. Everybody is just living their own lives, they all of hostility issues and body language problems. It's not like CX is the imperfect one and everyone else has their shit together. Everybody's fallable you know?
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-07-25 10:33 [#02309638]
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They all have*
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cx
from Norway on 2009-07-25 10:33 [#02309639]
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thanks for your thoughts but.. the hostility im referring to isnt so much apparent when you talk to people.
they may be nice to you if you are nice to them, but it seems like the minute any argument or disagreement comes up, people are happy to hate you forever.
i just dunno if people really care at all when push comes to shove,
well, this is a bit generalized, im onlty talking about SOME
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Guybrush
from the white room on 2009-07-25 10:36 [#02309640]
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cunt
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cx
from Norway on 2009-07-25 10:38 [#02309641]
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cwnt
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-07-25 10:40 [#02309642]
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I JUST WANNA SAY I LOVE EVEYRONE
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cx
from Norway on 2009-07-25 10:41 [#02309643]
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heartwarming
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2009-07-25 10:42 [#02309645]
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I'm not entirely sure how you think that using the word "strangers" gives the impression that we think that cx is the only one with behavioural/body language problems. The word "stranger" just refers to someone that you don't know, that's all. There's no need to read into it any more than that.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-07-25 10:43 [#02309646]
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"it seems like the minute any argument or disagreement comes up, people are happy to hate you forever."
I chalk this up to there being so many people in the world. I believe in second chances, but sometimes I have to ask myself "why bother?" with a person who has wronged me or simply has an abrasive personality. There are so many people out there that, in my opinion, everyone deserves a first chance before the pricks get a second chance.
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2009-07-25 10:43 [#02309647]
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it's basically because most people are strange, when you're a stranger.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2009-07-25 10:45 [#02309649]
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what kind of disagreements are you talking about? i personally have lots of arguments/discussions/disagreement but those are always for the better. there's always more sides to a story and room to learn. and in general, other people i argue/disagree/discuss with think so too. or at least, i assume they do.
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2009-07-25 10:47 [#02309651]
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I know what you mean really. I can have met someone at a party or something and get on with them really well.. but if they say something racist or very narrow-minded, for example, I don't want to talk to them anymore. I don't really think of that as being particularly hostile though, I just find it really difficult to carry on talking to someone, and getting on with them, when I know that they have views that really offend me
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-07-25 10:50 [#02309652]
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you're right, strangers is just a word that people use, not for any demeaning purpose, i agree.
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cx
from Norway on 2009-07-25 10:51 [#02309653]
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i havent had this happen to me personally, but i notice people can be quite cruel when talking behind other peoples backs.
like about shit i had noticed too, but i never really put that much into it.
ive had several conversations with people about other people in the circle, and sometimes i dunno it seems like they just dont care what they say.
and then, if you get in an argument, they might come forth with their feelings about you and completely murder you for it .;
im not talking about EVERYONE, but i have met several people who are quite cruel
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-07-25 10:52 [#02309654]
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duuude, im tellin you, Just downlaod Madlib Mind Fusion, Vol. 2 "Jazz" And just fucking Wig out to it, start dancing, start being a crazy super human dude
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2009-07-25 10:53 [#02309656]
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This doesn't seem to be anything to do with strangers really. This is much more the case when people know each other quite well I think
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cx
from Norway on 2009-07-25 10:59 [#02309660]
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look im terrible at explaining this. all i know is something isnt quite right, but i dunno what it is..
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Steinvordhosbn
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-07-25 11:00 [#02309661]
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That's so clearly a dig at me.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2009-07-25 11:01 [#02309662]
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sounds like those people are pretty extravert. you know, people who mostly just yabber away, hardly thinking about what they say just to fill the social space with sounds. if that's the case, i've got a trick for you: next when in a conversation with someone like that, completely say the opposite of what you're thinking. just do it. you'll be amazed. i'll guarantee
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2009-07-25 11:01 [#02309663]
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o, well is your problem with your friends who bitch about you/your other friends too much? or is your problem with people you've never met before?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-07-25 11:01 [#02309664]
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it up to you, good luck
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-07-25 11:02 [#02309665]
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-07-25 11:02 [#02309666]
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i mean you're the only one who knows right
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2009-07-25 11:04 [#02309667]
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hahah what the piss are you talking about? I've kept in touch with you for two years, you can't have offended me too much!! You've been nothing but lovely to me. Unless you called me an ugly greek bitch or something, without me noticing! :D
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cx
from Norway on 2009-07-25 11:05 [#02309669]
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both i guess. i recently moved, and i have a circle of people i hang out with, but i feel like they could ditch me any second if i did anything wrong.
i mean its like that almost with everyone.
but i also feel that way with strangers at a party or whatever.
i want someone that will stay behind and talk to me, even tho ive been a complete prick and shunned away everyone else.
someone that wont reject me simply cuz i wasnt myself and had a fit.
its hard to explain @@
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2009-07-25 11:06 [#02309670]
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what!? you're greek
EEEEWWWWWW
mousaka souflaki!!!!
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freqy
on 2009-07-25 11:07 [#02309671]
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i am a fluffy sheep.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-07-25 11:08 [#02309673]
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thats what i said to her at wonderment
oh also ápothéke and pita
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