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offline ph from United States on 2009-04-29 16:06 [#02288518]
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Wpiss has had so much hype behind him that when I finally
heard the full release, I was bored to tears. After multiple
listens I concluded that Rephlex has lost it's shit, and is
now on the prowl, like Warp, hiring drooling cookie-cutter
idiots from message boards.
I'll be signed next, probably, so I dread that day.

Anyway, it'd be nice to see start up labels beat the shit
out of these established pieces of dreck churning out
mediocre, by-the-numbers for club goers retarded by
excessive E usage.

Just look at at River Mohawke or Flying Petunia.

Ah well, I'll stick with the underground scene then while
the ass kissers stand up for over hyped shiite that won't
last in terms of quality and bash away at this thread.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-04-29 16:22 [#02288522]
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hey since you're so opinionated on everything and sure of
yourself, what might you reccomend to listen to? Because
this is the only messageboard i frequent and i am starting
to get tired of the music that's been in circulation here. I
make music, and for me, getting signed on rephlex would not
make my music any better than if it was not released on a
popular label at all.

I agree that there is alot of hype going around, but to
generalize things so much, (hiring drooling cookie-cutter
idiots from message boards) i think you come off as
snobbish, implying no one else knows to think for
themselves.

Although i've never heard of River Mohawke or Flying
Petunia, so hopefully that's a good thing.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2009-04-29 17:13 [#02288530]
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Good good, we haven't had one of these in a while. I want to
see a dirty fight, eyes gouged, balls impaled, feelings
hurt.



 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2009-04-29 17:14 [#02288532]
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(personally I quite like some of Wisp's older net released
stuff, haven't heard much of his commercial releases)


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2009-04-29 18:32 [#02288540]
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he has got himself some nice sounding whales that's for sure


 

offline spelunker on 2009-04-29 19:43 [#02288548]
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lmao, take a pill


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2009-04-29 19:54 [#02288549]
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And people complain about the CS80 being hard to tune - try
tuning a whale, they don't even have scales.


 

offline diamondtron on 2009-04-29 23:22 [#02288562]
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ph, wisp's album isn't even listed on rephlex website!
it is the messageboards fanboys making the hype themselves
not rephlex. true, wisp did seem to go on watmm to reply to
people but you ought not to resent that.
hiring people? are you serious!
wisp = flying mohawke
rephlex = warp
c'mon now! i think you're passing up an album that's right
up there with aphex and squarepusher?


 

offline staz on 2009-04-29 23:44 [#02288564]
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i think flying petunia is a reference to flying lotus. dunno
about the other dude.


 

offline cx from Norway on 2009-04-30 00:09 [#02288566]
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i liked a few tracks off shimmering hour.
especially some of the first ones..

i think wisp has his own kind of sound, the covers and
titles he have fit perfectly.
theres more to be had here than just shallow listening.. i
hear an 'old' sound made with new, and by old i mean like
from 1500's or something.

maybe he is overhyped, but what do you think would happen
when rephlex did this.. it doesnt negate the music.
its not a clone of afx or anything either, he has a
different sound


 

offline cx from Norway on 2009-04-30 00:12 [#02288567]
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also i think people will always hate on the new guy. its
just a fact.


 

offline melack from barcielwave on 2009-04-30 01:02 [#02288568]
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i dont think theres been any hype with wisp... au contraire,
hes always been a bit desprecied here for being too aphex
sounding.



 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2009-04-30 01:48 [#02288574]
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its*


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2009-04-30 01:50 [#02288576]
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river mohawk means hudson mohawk?


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2009-04-30 02:10 [#02288578]
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you want to tell me that mohawke, lotus and leila are cookie
cutters ?


 

offline michelnicholas from 'Round the Bend... on 2009-04-30 03:43 [#02288584]
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ph is a cunt.

hat0r...

Wisp is neither over hyped, nor overrated. Lets hear you do
better.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2009-04-30 06:48 [#02288622]
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hyped? you're out of your fucking mind. and the instant
you got signed, you'd clam up and pat yourself on the back.


 

offline Holmes from Ottawa (Canada) on 2009-04-30 07:29 [#02288628]
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i agree that the music really isn't anything special. the
overall sound and musical ideas are borderline cheesy,
there's that aphex-wannabe thing that is clear. but also the
production seems a bit weak and not mixed very well.


 

offline Steinvordhosbn from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-04-30 07:33 [#02288631]
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This reminds me of when we were almost engulfed by the
threat of the Breakcore Monopoly.


 

offline diamondtron on 2009-04-30 08:07 [#02288646]
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if it was too aphexy aphex wouldn't sign it surely?


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2009-04-30 08:29 [#02288651]
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Best clever pun ever


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2009-04-30 08:58 [#02288663]
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good times


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2009-04-30 08:59 [#02288664]
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For a few brief moments I knew earthleakage satori.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2009-04-30 09:04 [#02288666]
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you're lucky to have rephlex releasing anything at this
point and time.. im surprised the label isnt deadened


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2009-04-30 15:35 [#02288729]
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lol @ cookie-cutters


 

offline ph from United States on 2009-04-30 19:18 [#02288747]
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I will say that I am glad to see people who have worked for
years to get signed... that I will give them. The quality of
the work from most new artists is pathetic to me (in
comparison to many who are still working). And I don't look
to Aphex and Autechre as the "golden age" (piss not
included).

As for myself, the most musical support after all these
years that I get is from a handful of better musicians than
myself, and independent labels. Message boards have brought
out some good, but tried to kill off many promising
talents.

Hudson Mohawke has talent, Wisp has talent, Flying Lotus has
talent; yet they all lack an originality that makes people
follow everything despite what people say....
like Drexciya near when they started. Shunned and
criticized, now it's epic work when one member is dead.


 

offline ph from United States on 2009-04-30 19:22 [#02288748]
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oh and Wisp was over hyped within message boards and blogs
in a blatant effort to gain recognition like Syntheme. (And
they're from Rephlex too? Gosh! Say it ain't so!)
All the naysayers saying there was no hype are blind to
marketing.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2009-04-30 19:35 [#02288753]
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I think there's no finer form of bitterness than what a
failed electronic musician oozes. They're angry about not
becoming famous to an audience of several dozen people on
two or three messageboards and selling maybe five copies of
a pressing. To see a man fail miserably at such a modest
goal and have his heart broken over it - ah, it's caviar.


 

offline ph from United States on 2009-04-30 19:40 [#02288755]
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How do you know I'm a failure Mr. Fleetingmouse?
I was talking about respect b being independent and doing
things on your own in a somewhat roundabout way.

If you had read my recent reply then you wouldn't have been
so harsh, but I see you are an ass-kisser. Ass-kissers,
besides desiring the anal region of their heroes, aim to
take down others with an intelligent point of view.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2009-04-30 19:45 [#02288758]
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you are definitely getting angry about a guy from a message
board getting signed



 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2009-04-30 19:47 [#02288760]
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Oh, I wasn't talking about you. How very odd that you would
think I was.


 

offline spelunker on 2009-04-30 19:48 [#02288761]
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lmao, take a pill ph. You are bitter, and no, you won't be
getting signed.



 

offline ph from United States on 2009-04-30 19:49 [#02288762]
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I'm quite relaxed weird santa clause man.
but a comment coming from someone whose name is derived
from boring in canada is most definitely going to be
delusional.


 

offline ph from United States on 2009-04-30 19:53 [#02288763]
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Mr. Fleetingmouse, then I apologize.

Spelunker suggests I take a pill in very post I make.
perhaps he should take 20 times the recommended pill dosage
of sleeping pills. Ooooooh, bitter. hahahahhahahahahah.
also, he has no idea about my relations, dealings, and
releases on certain labels.


 

offline ph from United States on 2009-04-30 19:55 [#02288764]
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I'm ending my side now as I don't care to deal with mostly
scum and just a few good ones.
I'll be back again some day.


 

offline Mask 500 from now on 2009-04-30 20:05 [#02288765]
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Americans are great at electro but when it comes to IDM it's
just missing something.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-04-30 20:52 [#02288773]
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What is wrong with by-the-numbers music first of all?

Almost all of Drexciya's music besides their ambient/ droney
stuff is all by-the-numbers.

That's how music...stays in time. You aren't badass if you
make music with 4 different polyrhythms or something unless
you make it sound pleasant to the ear. And different time
signatures, it's all by the numbers.

If you want to hear bad by the numbers music, go listen to
to some britney spears, or christina aguilera.

The way music is composed shouldn't be the determining
factor of you liking it or not, unless you're a music snob
and like being that way.

Hey PHuckwad, no one cares if you'll be back some day we all
live our own lives and if you died tomorrow we would be sad
only because you seem to get angry on a messageboard for no
good reason instead of letting us know about the good shit
in your life or stuff that you're actually interested in.
Which i am curious to know because it sounds like you have
dug through trash and found some pearls but i guess i will
never know seeing as how you'll come back another day
sometime.

Seriously man, that is some childish goodbye shit and you
should be more focused on getting what you want out of life
instead of feeling like you're eventually gonna come back to
whatever it is you once had here.



 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2009-04-30 21:00 [#02288775]
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lol i i wsh i had that kinda time to waste that you're
putting towards this thread

PIF?


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2009-04-30 21:04 [#02288776]
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change your schedule up if you want to waste time so bad
then


 

offline cx from Norway on 2009-04-30 23:32 [#02288788]
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well said


 

offline christ deburger from helmans pr0vince (Afghanistan) on 2009-05-01 03:36 [#02288808]
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3.25
also i kinda agree with mask500, however i think wips music
is fluid enough for most ears


 

offline christ deburger from helmans pr0vince (Afghanistan) on 2009-05-01 03:40 [#02288810]
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gaylord linkage..
i'm not posting again


 

offline Jaser from Castle Greyskull (United Kingdom) on 2009-05-01 07:23 [#02288829]
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To be fair to the wisp it is a full helping weighing in at
1:12:30.
It is not as bang as I thought it would contain spazmodic
beats. It does sound good the mastering is lush. Tails off
towards the end. Some tracks have sort of long intros before
they drop. 7/10 imo.


 

offline ph from United States on 2009-09-25 23:06 [#02330128]
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haaha "phuckhead".
that was pretty funny.
then again, it's coming from that pulsing cock guy.

I regurgitated this thread to admit that I was pretty damn
harsh;
although not without standing... I'd say.

Wisp has blown up, Flying Lotus is huge and >shudder< Hudson
Mohawke is very well known. Good for them. It's a tough
industry.

I post subjects like this to communicate with those of the
same interest and provoke "interesting" conversations...
until I realize how sick and demented you all are and then I
back off in disgust. hah.


 

offline MAXIMUSMISCHIEF from Canada on 2009-09-26 02:18 [#02330141]
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wisp is great, quit being bitches.


 

offline cx from Norway on 2009-09-26 02:38 [#02330149]
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your melodrama is a snoozefest


 

offline cwnt on 2009-09-26 02:52 [#02330156]
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wisp is pure idm

1. american
2. fruityloops
3. heavily influenced by aphex twin
4. watmm

hes pretty much the definition of purest idm in its purest
form

aphex twin is never idm that was a lie/misconception by the
americans

wisp is very talented, musically talented and thats why
people love his music so much
it cant be denied that he is talented
the thing is whether you like idm or not
im not really a fan of idm
the americans were so good with detroit techno and stuff
but when the mistakenly made idm is where they tripped up
imo
but if you like idm, then wisp is the best idm for you
top of the range idm
good luck to the chap
he comes across as a nice bloke in his posts :-)


 

offline 7Pd from britney's upskirt vagina on 2009-09-26 10:31 [#02330237]
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humplnden beats and In a blue face are great albums
his saw 2 remix ep was lush
in fact practically all of his early releases are great
9 acid ep by skonflap was great
green hill path is great

his free albums are better than his rephlex album in my
opinion

wisp is a nice bloke

stop crying


 

offline RussellDust on 2009-09-26 10:39 [#02330238]
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I don't see what's so wrong in hating wisp. It's perfectly
understandable.


 

offline toby from ^_^ (China) on 2009-09-26 10:52 [#02330240]
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i think cwnt maybe is correct about this, i feel special
emptiness when wisp is playing so maybe not so talentd
either...
must listen more i think tho


 


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