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Quaristice
on 2009-02-01 13:17 [#02268991]
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They are trying to teach me evolution at school. It's such nonsense! I don't believe that we came from nothing, just by accident. If we evolved from monkeys, why do monkeys still exist?
The communists were evolutionists. Hitler was an evolutionist. The evil writer of 'The God Delusion' is an evolutionist.
You can stick your Godless theory where the sun don't shine.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-01 13:19 [#02268996]
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The truth is indifferent to what your feeble mind believes, so believe whatever the hell you want.
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Quaristice
on 2009-02-01 13:21 [#02268997]
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There is no proof of evolution. It is just a theory.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2009-02-01 13:21 [#02268998]
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america
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Quaristice
on 2009-02-01 13:22 [#02268999]
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UK
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Quaristice
on 2009-02-01 13:26 [#02269000]
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life was created by God as a test for humans who have free will, i.e., the ability to choose. Humans are required to have iman (belief and conviction in and about God) and do `amal (i.e., have their iman reflected in a righteous course of conduct vis-Ã -vis God, fellow humans, and the environment). The creation of humans, and their existence on Earth(8), is a deliberate divine act not an unguided, purposeless event.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2009-02-01 13:27 [#02269001]
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will you be quiet?
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2009-02-01 13:28 [#02269002]
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what the hell
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Quaristice
on 2009-02-01 13:29 [#02269003]
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mrMHlHnF6qo&feature=related
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2009-02-01 13:29 [#02269005]
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god is petty man. why would he be so hung up on us passing his tests?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-01 13:30 [#02269006]
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I guess you're being sarcastic/trolly and don't really not believe in evolution, if I wrote that double negative correctly.
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hexane
on 2009-02-01 13:37 [#02269012]
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God is the best mayne, he did it
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-01 13:38 [#02269013]
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he deed it
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2009-02-01 13:41 [#02269014]
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god is all like; you just lost the game.
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hexane
on 2009-02-01 13:42 [#02269015]
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step down, off the pedestal
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cyrstal dude
from LA all day! (United States) on 2009-02-01 16:02 [#02269081]
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i think they should teach evolution AND intelligent design side by side at schools.
until scientists figure out which one is true, obvs.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-01 17:45 [#02269125]
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Are you from the deep South?
Do you post on XL while on a PC in a PC shop in the far wealthier and better developed North America?
I am thinking yes.
Also, if you are so sure you right about evolution, why bother posting this thread? I think it is because subconsciously you know you are wrong and want to be corrected by people who know better.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-01 17:46 [#02269126]
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I agree with you on thissun, man. :)
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2009-02-01 17:51 [#02269129]
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god bless you. i bet you don't even maturbate
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gingaling
from Scamworth (Burkina Faso) on 2009-02-01 17:56 [#02269131]
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beyond my realm of care. i'm here ur here, i dunno why the fuck i'm here, dunno why the fuck ur here lets just get on with things, hurry up and die and not ask silly questions along the way.
how many bricks are there in the great wall of china?
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music maker
from St.Louis (United States) on 2009-02-01 17:59 [#02269132]
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this guy needs to be put in a prison where he isn't allowed access to any technological acheivements of mankind
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2009-02-01 18:03 [#02269135]
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having a faith is fine, but they shouldn't "teach" intelligent design at all because it relies on faith rather than a testable scientific approach.
did you know there are more stars in our milky way galaxy than grains of sand on the planet earth? many of which likely have planetary systems like the ones we've just found in nearby stars?
is one form of life (humans) really that special over others (microbes)?
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2009-02-01 18:08 [#02269140]
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of course we are you silly plum. microbes just eat. why are we so funny about ourselves? admit your importance. you are a unique snowflake.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2009-02-01 18:12 [#02269145]
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but we all share the spark of life!
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2009-02-01 18:13 [#02269146]
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but our lives make and experience hate and love; sparks in themselves that far surpass the pointless existence of bugs and worms.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2009-02-01 18:18 [#02269149]
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I tend to see hate and love as MORE akin to the bugs and other animals. It's more of an instinctive response that is guided and checked by our own ego (the more human element). If love is the "force" that guides us to protect our own and "hate" to attack our enemies, then maybe emotion is an insect is capable of, without the higher brain functions of reason.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2009-02-01 18:19 [#02269151]
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*emotion is ALL an insect is capable of.
damnit.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2009-02-01 18:26 [#02269156]
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Lt. Cmdr. Data a cold, unfeeling machine, or more than the sum of his parts?.
I love you data.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2009-02-01 18:34 [#02269159]
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i mostly agree. love and hate are our most brutal basic selves.
you can see it when you look around. look at something anywhere around you and try to deny the sheer miracle that a human made that or dreamt of it enough to want it there. look at yourself and the way you hurt and smile and you cannot actually say that the bug matters. it does but it's nothing compared to us. we like totally rule
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2009-02-01 18:34 [#02269161]
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i'll look atit tomorrow
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-02-02 06:43 [#02269320]
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yeah, go to school and say: 'teach me evolution this fucking ass'
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nightex
from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2009-02-02 14:27 [#02269399]
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>Quaristice Everything is just a theory.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2009-02-02 15:40 [#02269421]
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Humans are required to have iman
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Powli
from Lawrence, KS on 2009-02-02 16:28 [#02269432]
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Is this a joke?
You realize the theory of evolution is deeply researched and has a plethora of information to back it up where as creationism has...well, I guess it has some fantasy based elements to back it up. So I guess it's got that going for it.
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Samuel L Jigsaw
from swine flu central on 2009-02-02 16:59 [#02269442]
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The theory of intelligent design is disproved in the first law of thermodynamics. Thank you and goodnight.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-02 17:15 [#02269448]
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I don't need to, yo' mamma helps me out in that department. :)
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2009-02-02 17:22 [#02269453]
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Evolution isn't a theory.
Monkeys are a different species to us, as are Giraffes.
Have a look at a fossil or read the origin of species.
There's no proof of a God.
Evolution doesn't mean there is no God.
You were winding us up right?
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2009-02-02 22:48 [#02269519]
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you should take this article to school with you.
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nightex
from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2009-02-05 08:02 [#02270113]
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Clearly evolution os lack of evidence. So perhaps if we find eny gaps in evolution or creationism, we can suport one or another theory.
What do you think about "first mover", which could suport thory of creationism. Evrything in universe is moving, so by theory of physics movements manifests movements, so there must be first mover?
And do you realy think that onecell organisms cuold be craeated randomly of some aminoacids? I think there was other events which was crusial for life. In other words something is mising.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2009-02-05 08:27 [#02270123]
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Don't you think that, yourself being an human, raised in a completely human-centric environment, you're not being very objective?
How does an objective hierarchy of beings work? Everything there is is equally necessary, if only because it happened to happen.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2009-02-05 09:22 [#02270136]
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i like to tell people that if they can tell me who god is, i'll tell them whether or not i believe. but because i tend to converse mostly with incoherent homeless people i haven't yet gotten a satisfactory response. where we goes, nobody knows.
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nightex
from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2009-02-05 11:02 [#02270172]
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Do you prefer metaphysical approach to this problem?
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Advocate
on 2009-02-05 11:05 [#02270173]
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god lol
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2009-02-05 21:10 [#02270361]
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did anyone read the article? one highlight, which is relevant to this thread is:
Evolutionists often get so bogged down with trying to discredit a proposed alternative, frequently with nothing more than invectives, that they tend to walk away believing evolution must still work.
The objective here, therefore, is to point out that Darwinian evolution does not fall apart because a solution being presented says it happened differently. The objective here is to show that the mechanics of evolution are incompatible with empirical evidence, verifiable science and common sense, regardless of whatever else may or may not take its place.
Quaristice, did you take it to school and show your teacher? Also, did you play your teacher Quaristice?
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2009-02-06 01:24 [#02270371]
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Please watch this
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2009-02-06 01:51 [#02270374]
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what the fuck is that shit? evolution isnt a theory.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-06 02:02 [#02270376]
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lololol
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-06 02:10 [#02270378]
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I only read the first 1/8th, but 'Life results from the non-random survival of randomly varying replicators'.
Yes, mutations are pseudorandom, but the selection process isn't random.
ex: prey organisms of varying shades of white/black/gray live in a black environment. Predator picks off the whitest ones. Predator doesn't randomly pick off a grey one here and a white or black one there.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-06 02:19 [#02270381]
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Or this was one of dawkins examples:
"This is a sentence."
random algorithm = try to create that sentence all in one random swoop.
attempt 1:
ypjhnt wtj aqwtuy. wrong.
attempt 2:
mqbvoryooiqw rth. wrong.
... evolution algorithm = use heredity
ikwtaoijtr aktpqfk. wrong.
w[h]weomkrkreao. wrong, but that h is in the right spot, keep the h and continue.
y[h]oykalnpue[c]z...
etc until 'This is a sentence.' 2nd algorithm takes much fewer generations.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2009-02-06 02:53 [#02270384]
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i don't have a problem with the concept of evolution, just the classic darwinian model.
i am ok with micro adaptations and even micro evolution happening due to environment and circumstance, like wmw was describing. what i do have a problem with is the idea of random mutations complex enough to actually result in speciation, planet formation, stars, sentient organisms with consciousness, etc. like the article gets into, the fossil record does not show the proportionate amount of mistakes that would be necessary for new species to be generated by random process, if thought about logically and you do the math.
to me it seems ordered. even if certain processes appear random on a micro level, on a macro level there is some kind of system. evolution seems more like the stages of life, seed to a tree, caterpillar to butterfly and so on. in fact, it makes sense that if nature, life, & universe works that way on the levels we know about, it probably works like that way in the ways we haven't discovered yet. it is probably something similar to the genetic code, and certain things change or happen because they are supposed to, just like your man puberty.
i don't think saying there is evidence of an order and a system has to open the god can of worms. let those questions be answered elsewhere. at the same time science shouldn't gloss over or distort where the trail really leads just because it wants to separate itself from religion. let the evidence speak for itself.
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