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offline outline aka6u9 from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-13 19:11 [#02264374]
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lets do some name dropping, shall we?
Limewax is the best darkside warrior at the present.
neuro-funk is split between Dom and C4C, i must say;
while the best ez-rollers must be Spirit / Marcus Intalex
etc...
enough Acid sounds in that sorta musix B]


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-01-13 19:14 [#02264377]
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wrong fucking board dude.


 

offline swift_jams from big sky on 2009-01-13 19:32 [#02264384]
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Woah, woah, woah, slow down, lets see where he takes us with
this.


 

offline outline aka6u9 from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-13 20:17 [#02264398]
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http://www.torontojungle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43439
that would fix everything
ive said enough really.
if you think your idm room is bigger and more advanced then
dnb one.... think again :D


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2009-01-13 20:20 [#02264400]
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may not be the biggest but it's certanly the bestest.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-01-13 20:24 [#02264402]
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i don't think that. i just think it's not a dnb board. would
you like to discuss bluegrass as well?


 

offline outline aka6u9 from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-13 20:25 [#02264404]
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idm is on my watchlist for 7th year, buddy
lets talk about idm then, why a not??
theres many afx twins around, AE took too much acid
and lets seeee, boc havn't released anything in last two
years

& u-ziq is pill kid apparently

dunno, not many things keep me interested in the genre
nowadays


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2009-01-13 20:27 [#02264406]
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not even the new aphex haircut?


 

offline outline aka6u9 from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-13 20:29 [#02264407]
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simpsons twins


 

offline outline aka6u9 from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-13 20:37 [#02264413]
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edit:
about ziq, that was a joke;
i know he broke up with his wife, that must be sad [


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2009-01-13 20:40 [#02264415]
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hopefuly they'll get back together when he starts making
more interesting music again.


 

offline outline aka6u9 from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-13 20:45 [#02264416]
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post better music or keep your thought to yourself.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2009-01-13 20:49 [#02264418]
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i would but we don't do piracy on this board.


 

offline outline aka6u9 from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-13 20:59 [#02264420]
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your own musix, i meant.
maybe not posting so much would improve your skill, if you
have any.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-01-13 21:06 [#02264421]
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ah, the old "let's see you do better" argument. how
hackneyed.


 

offline outline aka6u9 from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-13 21:17 [#02264423]
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cause im in the progress of putting my site 2gether - once
and for all, with my musix and fine artz :D
& stuff


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2009-01-14 02:13 [#02264452]
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well, i'd say this is much more relevant to the board than
any of your french house threads. you of all people... you
are incredible.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-01-14 03:16 [#02264480]
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considering there had been considerable interest and
discussion of french house at the time, it seemed pretty apt
to post about. same with dubstep.

on the other hand, i have never seen anybody talking about
this dark dnb shiz or whatever other than this guy, who just
pops in assuming we want to discuss his music.

also, when was the last time you saw me posting about
french/electro-house? yawn, you can't seem to do much other
than recycle and spew out the same boring cunty shit all the
time.


 

offline Advocate on 2009-01-14 03:22 [#02264481]
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wow now, can't we discuss ALL the mostly crap sub genres of
electronica -- idm and french house included?


 

offline Advocate on 2009-01-14 03:24 [#02264482]
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SYSTEM ERROR:

wow = woah


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2009-01-14 03:40 [#02264484]
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ya see, your problem is you dont freaking know about this
music and you haven't heard of limewax, intalex and so on -
you don't have a frame of reference and are discussing a
genre of music you obviously know nothing about, its almost
pathetic (and im not even saying that to add drama). it is
clear for anyone who actually knows about about the culture
around dubstep and drum n bass, that these two genres are
deeply connected and that a lot of established dnb producers
switched to dubstep when it was hype. you neglecting this
thread, claiming that it is malplaced here on xltronic, is
just absurd if we take your past on this board into
consideration.

advocate: (!)


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2009-01-14 04:59 [#02264509]
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Drum and bass is dead, has been for years. When moving
shadow stopped releasing they did it to keep the catalogue
really good and not have it slowly die out with increasingly
bland songs...
Saying that, this place needs to talk more about dnb and
other electronicy but not electronica styles.

Hedphukkerr, you are an idiot. zilty = excellent electronic
music.
Decent dnb = excellent electronic music.
If you cannot see this then please "go forth and multiply"

Perhaps you only know modern dnb?
Modern stuff is too highly polished, you could slip it in as
backing track on masterchef and my mum wouldn't realise.
Everything has this sort of child friendly sillyness to it.
There are no dark tunes anymore. Even the ones which try to
be sound polished. Why can't someone dust off the SH101,
crank it up to 11 and let rip.
Proper stuff had a bit of grit to it. It's a sad state of
affairs when some of my friends tell me they really like
drum n bass (pendulum) yet I play anything decent from the
90s and they say it's boring or you can't dance to it,
should sounds more like pendulum, too distorted etc etc.

Anyway, have some youtubes of great tracks from the past.
here is Soundwall VIP by Dom and Roland. When I
got the promo 12" of this it got played so loud when I got
it home :)

this is off the best dnb album ever (Torque) from
1997.

Here is Trace's best song. I love mixing this in
with the pinging panning sonar pulses. I'm going to steal
Rephlex's word and say this is lush.

If that isn't excellent electronic music then clearly my
lexicon is corrupt. zilty = purple monkey dishwasher. .
brrzzpz bababaa gurgle gurgulegggg


 

offline rad smiles on 2009-01-14 05:17 [#02264516]
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wow. great songs. thx


 

offline Mum_Ra from LOL (United States) on 2009-01-14 06:53 [#02264539]
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Wow, headphukker, you remind me so much of someone I know
who I am repulsed by. Take your genre-ist shenannigans
elsewhere plz.... Wrong fucking whatever dude

I also want to big up the Remarc.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2009-01-14 07:00 [#02264541]
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Big up soundmurderer, chris mansell, photek, ltj bukem,
enduser, intalex, a guy called gerald, plug, roni size and
to some extend aphrodite.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2009-01-14 07:18 [#02264544]
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you seem to know your stuff and i would love to hear some
recommendations from you that fit in with some of the
following stuff:

dom&roland - industry (thanks ecnadniarb)
teebee - through the eyes of a scorpion
technical itch - diagnostics

but aside from this i really enjoy some slightly less dry
and abstract stuff like andy C, MC'ing optional.

one or two essential album or mix recommendations would be
much appreciated!


 

offline outline aka6u9 from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-14 07:38 [#02264545]
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dave g, eat some acid, go to eib night (16th of this month
in here) and come back here and type "dnb is dead" again
its dead comparing to the state it was in when i joined in
(01)
so what?
the same thing could be said about many many things
nowadays.
thereis loads of dark shit going on in the scene, if you
stoped looking and stick to your favorites, good luck
i did that for too long myself, ive moved on
name dropping is a joke in the first place.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2009-01-14 07:48 [#02264548]
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name dropping is not a joke.


 

offline outline aka6u9 from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-14 08:08 [#02264550]
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its never gonna become as popular as rap or rock or anything
of that sort.
because it was based around people getting high and dancing
in clubs, like any other genre in the rave cattegory.
for that matter it has nothing to do with inteligent dance
music
topic closed



 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2009-01-14 08:14 [#02264551]
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why? we were just name dropping.


 

offline outline aka6u9 from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-14 08:18 [#02264552]
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because its stupid talking about dnb as if it was a life or
death duel

especially here - on idm board
nuff pathetic dnb ones, with cuntfucking douchebags all
across...


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2009-01-14 08:32 [#02264556]
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but we were just name dropping, why are you so angry at us


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2009-01-14 08:51 [#02264559]
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J198 - I will try and send you an email in the next few
days.

outline aka6u9 :

I don't take drugs for a start. Secondly I live in England,
so Toronto is a bit out of the way. I assume eib == bad
company == )E|3(
I'm not sure about this name dropping "joke" you're on about
either.

Perhaps my statement about drum and bass being dead was not
factually correct. I should have perhaps said REAL drum and
bass is dead.

One can go out and take acid(!) and enjoy recent dnb I'm
sure. I know a lot of the more modern tunes (pendulum et al)
are finding a new, more "mainstream" crowd, but this is dnb
"lite".
This does not have reduced sugar and salt content, but has
something more fundamental missing: the soul.

The older tunes were in some cases really quite highly
produced, yet still had this feeling of being raw. I think
one massive difference is that modern stuff is really
"busy". There seems to always be some synth or vox or
something, anything going on. Older stuff would bang out bar
after bar of BOOM CHA drums and when the synth kicks in it
was so much better. Less is more, and all that jazz.

Anyway, arguing on the internet is pointless, therefore I
anoint myself as correct and you are therefore wrong.
Let's have some more youtubes.... hurrah

here is one of Optical's best with that hard to
mix beat!
Bit of Boymerang from 96 on Prototype. This is the
shiznits.
this is an absurb but fantastic classical + jungle
fusion by DJ SS.

Finally, my all time favourite drum and bass song. Turn
it up loud. This is _REAL_ drum and bass done to perfection
:)


 

offline melack from barcielwave on 2009-01-14 08:57 [#02264561]
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idm's la politique des auteurs in dbn!


 

offline melack from barcielwave on 2009-01-14 09:00 [#02264563]
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dnb, sorry


 

offline outline aka6u9 from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-14 09:09 [#02264565]
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i dont know french.
he's trying to gimmie a lesson, isnt that nice...
dude, if you think i like the current dnb scene... think
again, cause i hate it not less then you do for exact same
reasons...

and then, my policy is - dnb is not a person, therefor it
could not be dead or alive or ressurected nor undead...

w/e
name drop all you wont
its nice that theres someone whos trying to educate ppl with
proper original vibe linkage
im from Kiev btw (an imigrant or some sort)


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-01-14 10:34 [#02264584]
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hm, i guess people were interested. my guage of the board
was off.

never seen people really discuss this before. that's all i
was getting at in the first place.

yeesh.


 

offline Brisk from selling smack at the orphanage on 2009-01-14 10:36 [#02264585]
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is this an idm forum? if it was, i'd have left years ago.

limewax is awesome by the way. remarc is still my fav
dnb/jungle producer though. nice bloke too.


 

offline vlari from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2009-01-14 10:38 [#02264587]
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i've been enjoying limewax a lot lately


 

offline outline aka6u9 from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-14 10:41 [#02264589]
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he got what no1 else has in that bizzness
ultimate acidik force that is.
and so far, not many compared, although clearly he got his
influences from peeps like tech itch, whom he substitutes
just awesome imo

kristall wiezen is my current favorite.


 

offline Brisk from selling smack at the orphanage on 2009-01-14 10:41 [#02264590]
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actually, scrap that... my favourite dnb producer is Skanna.
He only released a few 12s but they really are next level.


 

offline skeksi23 from ∆ on 2009-01-14 11:12 [#02264596]
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allow me to retort


 

offline Mum_Ra from LOL (United States) on 2009-01-14 13:29 [#02264641]
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I listened to Ed Rush & Optical's Wormhole the other day
again, and it sounded so cheesy! I was so disappointed
because it used to sound really dark and such, but I guess
I've heard way too much truly terrifying stuff since then.

I've got to say that some of the Noisia stuff is pretty
brutal, and I got this one Springheel Jack album that is
worth checking that I cannot remember the name of (sorry!).


If you guys have soulseek and go into the IDM room and ask
about some of those drum and bass classics... there are some
real old schoolers there who know their stuff... including
the cheesy stuff. I got a bunch of old Tom n jerry vinyl
from one of the users there, and its gory cheese but fun


 

offline NIL-0 from trans pennine express on 2009-01-14 13:29 [#02264643]
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fucking too right

seems like i been misnaming it all these years...



 

offline Cliff Glitchard from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2009-01-14 15:08 [#02264665]
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I've got the logistics bootleg version of flying lotus - tea
leaf dancers. it's tidy.

that is all.


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2009-01-14 15:48 [#02264688]
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breakage is great and i'm saying this because somebody
fucking well should. spiritualism, trans bohemian, losing
track = bestestest


 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2009-01-14 16:11 [#02264694]
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DJ Hazard's trax are well 'ard.

get the fuck up


 

offline Cliff Glitchard from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2009-01-14 16:42 [#02264700]
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indeed. breakage does sterling work.

very minimal sound too.


 

offline outline aka6u9 from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-14 20:53 [#02264731]
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i have an idea. we need an insider to make it happen
if theres a spy whos willing to soft-talk BOC, AE and AFX
into making dnb.... that would be so awesome
theyre so much more advanced on average...


 

offline entelechy from Brisbane (Australia) on 2009-01-14 21:29 [#02264741]
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Spor, Ewun, Evol Intent. Satisfies the glitch quotent, and
some of it is pretty impressive.


 


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