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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-17 13:18 [#02259332]
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looks nice, just the old one repackaged I think.
Thinking of selling my ms2000r, might get one of these babies instead.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2008-12-17 13:24 [#02259333]
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i must admit, that is goodlookin. i have a thing for big knobs
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-17 13:26 [#02259334]
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you'll love this then.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2008-12-17 13:30 [#02259335]
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i did a lol at this
You asked for it. Your band asked for it. Your clients asked for it. Your mom practically asked for it.
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noseburger
on 2008-12-17 13:34 [#02259336]
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How muchfor the ms2000000
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-17 13:35 [#02259337]
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it's the rack version, probably £175 + postage.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-12-17 14:05 [#02259342]
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so it is polyphonic too, sweet. i bet its like 1500 bucks
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-17 14:12 [#02259345]
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doubt it, more like £350 tops
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2008-12-17 21:34 [#02259418]
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The original was polyphonic.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2008-12-23 00:59 [#02260352]
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Supposedly it looks ugly. I really like the 70's lounge ep/radio look.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2008-12-23 01:00 [#02260353]
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I know for a fact it sounds like shit, tho.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-23 06:13 [#02260378]
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it sounds like the ms2000, which sounds great, no?
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divil
from Ireland on 2008-12-23 06:18 [#02260380]
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microkorgs are for posers
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2008-12-23 06:18 [#02260381]
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That thing looks wicked, i bet those keys feel like real piano ones in some way, heavy and all. Though, it needs more knobs to warm Fahz0r's cockle.
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Mask 500
from now on 2008-12-23 08:05 [#02260394]
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Judging by the name I thought it was going to have bigger keys.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-23 11:57 [#02260439]
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It could have more grunt at the bottom end, but it's nice for pads and (some) leads. The vocoder is SHIT, 8 bands isn't near enough.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-23 12:30 [#02260451]
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that's one of the reasons I went for the ms2000r over the original microKORG, the ms2000 having a 16 band vocoder. The new microkorg has 16 bands according to the link.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2008-12-23 13:31 [#02260459]
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the new microKORG uses the MMT sound engine, which is used in the M3 and Radias (i believe)
or at least that's what the specs lead us to think....the fact that the product page doesn't actually give us any definitive details (polyphony, timbrality) and that it says "specs subject to change" is a bit....well, shit.
considering it's due "early 2009" you'd have thought they'd know what kind of specs they'll be putting out.
i would hope that since it's supposed to be a successor to the microKORG that it would have at least 16 note poly, and 4 part multitimbrality (and i mean proper multitimbral, not just using two timbres in layer mode like on the original microKORG)
but then again, you do have to think that they need to distinguish the models enough to have incentive to buy the bigger brother (M3 or Radias).....ok, well at least having two part multitimbrality (no shitty layer mode)
sorry, i'm rambling and not in the best of moods
anyways, my points are still valid
sieg heil
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-23 14:58 [#02260476]
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Ah that's better... mind I'll still stick to my Alesis Ion's 40 Band :)
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Mask 500
from now on 2008-12-24 03:34 [#02260560]
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First impression
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melack
from barcielwave on 2008-12-24 03:47 [#02260561]
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hahaha that guy is funny... and its light!
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2008-12-24 04:59 [#02260571]
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Any synth with a "Genre" and "Cathegory" dial hurts my feelings... It's not a synth when you can not turn the respective knobs to create a sound that you, the user, want.
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CalumDamit
from United Kingdom on 2008-12-24 05:49 [#02260602]
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How about I take of your hands, no charge! You'll no longer be burdened by Magic Keyboards!
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TroutMask
from New York City (United States) on 2008-12-24 14:22 [#02260661]
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Yeah, it looks really nice if you want everyone to know that you made your music using a microKORG... because that's what happens when you play a damn microKORG in your music. Everybody knows.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2008-12-24 15:41 [#02260663]
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you can actually edit the sounds
it's just that the microKORG is generally marketed to the beginner, and as a consequence has it's presets categorized
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2008-12-24 17:53 [#02260672]
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That, my acid friend, is true
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staz
on 2008-12-24 22:26 [#02260699]
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the microkorg sucks a lot
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Mask 500
from now on 2008-12-25 05:22 [#02260712]
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People say the same about FL Studio yet people still use it.
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TroutMask
from New York City (United States) on 2008-12-25 10:41 [#02260746]
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We can all master rigid GUI software like FL Studio or Reason, but the music will only be made on a certain tier of intellectual capacity. In order to supersede the conventions of these programs, one must make their own software to suit their needs perfectly (as with SuperCollider or Csound or ChucK). People use things like the microKORG and FL Studio because it's easy for uninformed people to make "cool sounds" without knowing what the hell they're doing. And even if they know what they're doing, they will only be able to accomplish so much, and should rather be spending their efforts with higher-minded applications.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-12-25 11:30 [#02260748]
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That's great if you like to use half finished open source crap that you spend so much time getting it to run you never make any music. Or if you do it sounds like a refrigerator. Professionals use software that costs money because the programers put value in it.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2008-12-25 12:15 [#02260754]
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no. MS2000's sound like ass. They sound like a casio that you can edit presets on.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2008-12-25 12:16 [#02260755]
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Your a wanker.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-12-25 13:32 [#02260760]
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I got through 2 sounds on the demo video and concluded it sounds like shit, which isn't surprising considering I hated the original microKORG. I suppose beginners would probably love this thing, and there's nothing wrong with that. Everybody starts somewhere.
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TroutMask
from New York City (United States) on 2008-12-25 14:14 [#02260763]
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Have you ever used SuperCollider before? Calling it half-finished is just as absurd as calling Max/MSP half-finished. It's the easiest software to make music that I've ever used. The only reason your music would sound like a "refrigerator" (?) with SuperCollider is if you programmed it that way. That's the beauty of SuperCollider - it does exactly what you tell it to do - it does exactly what you want. It weeds out the inspired from the imitators. A lot of "professionals" have used SuperCollider - Richard D. James, Anthony Braxton, Ikue Mori, and Tom Jenkinson to name a few. RDJ has even gone so far as to make his own SC-like software. Is he not a professional?
People who don't get the results they want on software like SC can only blame themselves, hence the greatness of the application. I can get weird sounds to come out of Reason in three minutes, but that requires no real thought process, and I feel extremely limited by its interface. And I'm not alone. I like freedom in my software - is that such a bad thing?
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TroutMask
from New York City (United States) on 2008-12-25 14:33 [#02260765]
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Snake got fangs...
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-12-25 23:17 [#02260819]
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It's the easiest software to make music that I've ever used.
seconds later:
I can get weird sounds to come out of Reason in three minutes, but that requires no real thought process
Then it logically follows that SC requires even less "real thought process", whatever that means.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-12-25 23:46 [#02260821]
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Someone should make a move of experimental electronic musicians thinking and typing. A silent movie, so we can appreciate the pure thought process, but without all the annoying clicking and static that comes with it.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-26 03:05 [#02260830]
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jesus fucking christ, some people are so far up there own arse.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-26 03:10 [#02260831]
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merry christmas btw
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2008-12-26 03:35 [#02260832]
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No fangs about it really. Your a wanker.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-26 04:47 [#02260837]
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Wasn't this thread about the microKorg...
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-12-26 10:22 [#02260854]
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TroutMask, all kidding and flaming aside - of course SC et al are wonderful, but what do you expect using phrases like
"on a certain tier of intellectual capacity"
"higher-minded applications"
"It weeds out the inspired from the imitators"
"that requires no real thought process"
This attitude is the hallmark of the twat. You sound like you could be an interesting chap if you exorcise your unfortunate faith in the dichotomy between high and low art, and high and low instruments. Conlon Nancarrow used a player piano. John Cage used radios, for fuck sake. Stop prancing around like you're balancing a stack of parthenons on your mortarboard.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2008-12-26 10:42 [#02260855]
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I'm dying to hear some of troutmasks music now.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2008-12-26 10:48 [#02260856]
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you can on his webpage. LAZY_TITLE
just as a thought. nothing that backs up his big mouth.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2008-12-26 10:48 [#02260857]
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a = I
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otiarc
on 2008-12-26 10:55 [#02260859]
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he's like frank zappa tho
I say the microkorg is just a preset machine like every other mainstream instrument nowadays made for people who can either use it for interesting music or whatever else music.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2008-12-26 12:44 [#02260865]
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then you're wrong it's not just a preset machine
it's completely and fully tweakable
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-26 13:05 [#02260866]
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Yeah, a lot of people use the presets and the presets only, but half of them suck. You can get some pretty nice patches out of it when you start making your own.
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TroutMask
from New York City (United States) on 2008-12-27 00:34 [#02260920]
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Thanks for listening! It's appreciated. =)
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TroutMask
from New York City (United States) on 2008-12-27 00:37 [#02260921]
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I never said people couldn't do great things with FL Studio and the like. I just said that you can do BETTER and MORE with a different type of software program. If you can do incredible things with GUI software, like Venetian Snares, that's great and I applaud you for it. But people like Nick Collins can do even better with software that is almost theoretically limitless in capability. I never meant to disrespect those who choose to work with software that requires conformity to an interface, and I do apologize for making it seem to be that way. It's all about the music in the end, I suppose? =)
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