 |
|
You are not logged in! F.A.Q Log in Register |
 |
|
 |
 Now online (2)dariusgriffin belb ...and 636 guests Last 5 registered Oplandisks nothingstar N_loop yipe foxtrotromeo Browse members... |
 |
Members 8025Messages 2614087 Today 0 Topics 127542 |
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
they're probably both just shapeshifting lizardmen anyway, this shit is bogus *shakes fist at nibiru* |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
"proper rebuttal" get a life |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I don't mean to be rude - people have their opinions and that's fine, but I don't like people buying into propaganda. I work for a newspaper publishing company in the Chicago suburbs and all last week on the front page of each paper they would ask who you're voting for and why. Nearly every person responded with propaganda. "Oh, I'm voting for McCain because he has experience and he's a maverick." or "I'm voting for Obama because he represents *change* and we don't need 4 more years of Bush." Yeah that pisses me off because people can't form their own opinions about things. Those comments I mentioned earlier are legitimate issues that need to be addressed that neither party will dare to. Since the thread is an Obama love-fest (as opposed to McCain) I will say that Obama doesn't represent any considerable change because the status-quo will still be intact. When Obama gets into Office look at the things I said. See if he repeals bad policies that Bush put in place these 8 years. If he does nothing to repeal these bad policies than he is no different and no better than the neo-cons, that is why I said they should stop lying to the public and form 1 large party. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
go waste your vote on mickain and quite down |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Are you high - maybe drunk or under the weather? You know some kind of impairment? Where am I stating that I like McCain. Please point this out to me, because it's the second time you've decided to be an idiot and I let the first one go. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Are McCain you McCain high McCain - McCain maybe McCain drunk McCain or McCain under McCain the McCain weather? McCain You McCain know McCain some McCain kind McCain of McCain impairment? McCain Where McCain am McCain I McCain stating McCain that McCain I McCain like McCain McCain. McCain Please McCain point McCain this McCain out McCain to McCain me, McCain because McCain it's McCain the McCain second McCain time McCain you've McCain decided McCain to McCain be McCain an McCain idiot McCain and McCain I McCain let McCain the McCain first McCain one McCain go. McCain |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Trolling on xlt, never would of thought it. Carry on good sir. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
go watch some anime you little douche bag noname |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
When Obama gets into Office look at the things I said. See if he repeals bad policies that Bush put in place these 8 years. If the man gets a filibuster, ah say filibuster proof senate, I reckon you bout to get some change, boy! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Democrats will most likely control both Houses, BUT even if they don't he needs to put forth the effort and at least TRY to. If no attempt is made, what I said stands. Absolutely no difference. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
not true at all |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
revpersona turn off your parents computer now, go brush your teeth |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
boy |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
boy? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i think obama is more likely to: stop invading countries we have no business fucking with. allow women to keep the right to an abortion in any state, under any circumstances. project a good image of america around the world. allow teh gheys to marry. why not? it's nobody's business but theirs. redistribute wealth to the poor. mccain is calling him a socialist? great! imma vote for the socialist! stop that crazy fundie bitch palin becoming president if mccain's ancient ass expires. OBAMA/BIDEN '08! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
You "think" - that's the problem. Where is the dialogue about this? Obama won't pull troops out around the world - he has mentioned putting more troops in Afghanistan. If you want us to stop invading countries, then we should be pulling out our troops and leaving the bases we have established in countries that don't need us there anymore + ones we have "no business fucking with." Pro-Choice - that's cool, I definitely lean that way with rape and incest If you want to project a good image of our country than you would pull troops IMMEDIATELY out of the middle-east and admit that we as a country made a mistake to go in there under false pretenses, as well as fix our damn monetary policy. These other countries that are in recessions have us to thank for that (not completely but a lot of the blame is our policy) Gays to marry, sure why not Redistribute wealth? Yeah, I disagree with entitlements. That doesn't solve any of the problems with our economy and economic structure. You want people to have as much money as they can by working hard and not having to give up money to the government. A great economic country is one that saves and produces - this country has gotten away from that big time. And guess what if you tackle the issue of our Monetary Policy than the middle class wouldn't be getting wiped out right now and the Standard of Living of every American would rise. Do you know that voting for these bailouts will cause massive inflation (plus the FED printing $$$ that gets pumped into the market without media coverage). That inflation will tax everyone and put a much bigger burden on the middle and lower class. Again Obama and McCain are dancing around the bigger issue. You don't want to see President Palin scandals? Or how much her daughters turn into party whores? Paul/Schiff '12 |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything on insufficient evidence |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
It sure is, that's why people need to educate themselves and stop buying into the propaganda. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Politicians and commentators, news achors, everybody's understanding of the wealth redistribution thing is totally in outer space. Giving someone money is a nice thing. Giving things to people is a kind, polite thing. It makes me nauseated that all these people making a quarter million are infuriated they will be letting less rich people have some of it. It is a nice thing to give. Maybe Americans will be nicer people after 4 years of wealth distribution |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Qualities of acceptance are really good and help humans make it a long peacefully. I certainly don't care about material posessions. Having less makes me feel like more. We are not our money or posessions! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Send your Machinedrum to revpersona. When he receives it then carry on/ Otherwise stop being a tit. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
yeah we shouldn't talk about peace , because its such a horrible, threatening thing for humans |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
"I certainly don't care about material posessions" (possessions) Send your 'posessions' to revpersona then you might have a bit of dignity and weight. A vote for Obama isn't just about your twisted American 'democracy', it gives hope and a kick up the arse to lots of people. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
not judging might be a good start as well! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Haha! judging whom? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
yourself! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I'm all for charity, we need more of it, but it's not right to force people into it - then it no longer becomes charity. Sorry, but we need government staying out of our lives more than encroaching on them. I don't follow this whole wealth distribution because it's all b/s. Like I said Monetary Policy is a bigger issue. What good will having a lot of dollars be if it's worth nothing. Destroy our currency like these idiots in Washington are and then get back to me about wealth redistribution. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i really dont. if rev wants my machinedrum he can have it - i certainly dont need it but i don't think he needs it either . i just use it. my point is - what motivates fear is wanting that kind of permanence and that's gonna drive us out of existence pretty soon |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
you people are crazy . . . |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i agree that forcing people is not the way - but i think the mindset is really dangerous and will end up destroying humans altogether - so whats worse? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Rev. I've got you a Machinedrum for free! The owner said "i certainly dont need it" Sell it on e-bay or give it to a friend. His name is cygnus. He'll deliver on his words I'm sure. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
can't you understand why? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
ah, we should miseducate ourselves about politics and money but we're too early to talk about it. i'll make some sons just to let them know. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Sweet, I've always wanted to make some AI-era Techno. It's not Christmas yet, I'm not in the giving mood. :] |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
It's yours, Cygnus said so and it's a beautiful gesture.Well done. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
its neither his nor mine , even if i mailed it to him its not his the illusion of ownership causes people to feel threatened and react violently when things are taken away from them, and that is really really bad now. look at how bad it is |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Revpersona I agree with a lot that you are saying. *the patriot act IS a crock of fucking shit. *the FCC is a crock of fucking shit too. *as far as the economy goes, neither of the candidates are all that different (none solve the fundamental problem that our economy is not backed by anything but IOU slips) -I wouldn't consider a redistribution of "tax cuts" a redistribution of wealth any more than normal taxes. Taxes always take away your wealth, it's best to just accept that. (it will never change.) *people are overly partisanized (especially this time of year.) i cant stand hearing people repeat the campaign's talking points as their own. *bitbare is a troll, don't bother replying to him ever I do like Obama more than McCain though. He has a better character. Just look at the 3rd debate... when shcieffer asked him "do you think Palin would make a good president?" and Obama answered "I think the american people will decide that" and went on to compliment her on some things. It would have been so easy to shit all over her there, but he didn't. I liked that a lot. It shows he's not selling out and going negative like McCain has. He's consistently taken the high road during this campaign. He's fundamentally honest and he'll probably make a good prez. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i just find it ironic that rev get upset about "people not forming their own opinions about things" while preaching the Ron Paul gospel. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
How is there any comparison to all the issues I stated and simply just saying "i want change" or "he has experience and a maverick?" @wolf - I understand what you;re saying. Obama does seem like a decent man - I never criticized his character. I just got a bad feeling that the things I mentioned will come to fruition. That the wrong-doings of Bush will stay intact and the status-quo will never be challenged. And if this is the case - then America needs to wake up because the corporations are running this country and more people will need to understand this or we will never have actual change. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i dont's see how is your question related to what i said, but as an answer, i'd say you're reducing the issues to slogans on both camps and that's kindof unfair. my point was that all the issues you stated are just (and exactly) what ron paul has been preaching about. so it doesn't really come of like you "forming your own opinion" rather than just repeating what some other political actor says. it's not an attack, just an observation. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i'm not a troll you are with your silly comments. you may be a citizen but youre only a pussy bitch civilian. i can't vote cause i'm not a citizen. but i served in the naval reserve so little kids like you can have freedoms such as posting uninformed garbage on the web. scum like you is the problem with this country, lazy, no-brain, drama queen scum like you. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Well forming an opinion comes from listening to people and research. Yes, I like Paul's platform, I am little more socially liberal with Pro-Choice and Gay Marriage, but what you're basically insinuating is that I listen to Paul and that's it - I like it. People are impressionable. If someone is simply listening to one view of things and that's it then there is something wrong with that. My beef is that people weren't even mentioning the issues, just propaganda slogans. And bit Hare you are way off the mark. You know if you cited something like arrogant or an asshole or something similar when describing "scum" I could understand if I come off that way (I don't mean to), but for you to say I'm lazy, have no brain, drama queen you couldn't be more wrong. At least choose your wording more accurately, because the people posting in this thread seem to be more informed than the general public even if I don't agree with them. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
write in motherfucker, write in. i love you man. glad you're on our side. you know all the rest of his crazy dedicated fans are writing him in. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
If I am following you - and I think I am, vote 3rd Party if it's on your ballot, whoever it is - doesn't matter for a vote of no confidence. This election will be a good indicator of just how many people vote 3rd party between all of the candidates. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I don't know much about nuclear energy, but I have to say when it goes wrong, it goes wrong a hell of a lot worse than coal Not like coal isn't without its major disasters Sorry. I know its a bit late in the thread, but I am surprised nobody mentioned this after a few people mentioned there are never any accidents in nuclear power. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Libertarians are fucking nuts. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
they're silly |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
they're just a bit naive |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
They got a beautiful image, though. Maybe when I get older I will see that libertarians just don't have practicals aims. On the other hand, there are small utopias in America and elsewhere, which can be read about here. I think the best way to achieve happiness of this kind is to remove yourself from mainstream society. It works- many have done it already. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
that link seems to be broken :( i wants to to see utopia too! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
|
Messageboard index
|
|||||||||
