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offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2008-10-31 08:37 [#02249134]
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never heard of centralia :O
and its never too late :)


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2008-10-31 08:38 [#02249135]
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the main argument against nuclear power is based on fear.
steps have been taken to prevent another chernobyl or 3-mile
island, and it hasn't happened in over 20 years... not to
say it couldn't or wouldn't happen again, but let's not live
in constant fear (and poison the environment with dirty coal
in the process).

libertarians (I am basically one- though I'm more of a
realist on the subject than an idealist) just believe that
the constitution should be followed, believe in civil
liberties, believe in personal accountability, and believe
our currency should be backed by something other than
credit. Sounds fuckin' wacko to me.

But you can have your 2 party shit system for the rest of
your life. It's worked out super terrific, hasn't it?


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2008-10-31 09:00 [#02249138]
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LAZY_COMMUNE


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-31 09:06 [#02249141]
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Oh- I had a bad feeling about that link. Sorry folks.

Thanks for re-linking, plaid.


 

online dariusgriffin from cool on 2008-10-31 09:18 [#02249142]
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sorry, i guess i just love the two party system too much


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2008-10-31 12:35 [#02249175]
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Libertarianism is just another -ism? what people need to
vote is liberty, the only thing you can't vote on the
outside.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2008-10-31 14:03 [#02249194]
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pilger asks the same question


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-01 10:26 [#02249370]
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There are too many things standing in the way of being able
to vote for liberty. Rigged elections in Africa and America,
the FPTP system in UK. It's all just bollocks.

If people really care, then what's wrong with them living a
self-sufficient, independant lifestyle away from most
people.


 

offline yoyoyoyo from Sweden on 2008-11-01 11:13 [#02249379]
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obama is the man


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-01 15:59 [#02249462]
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My friend in USA said this:

because he has openly stated that he wants to basically get
rid of the constitution. If you are not american I doubt
that yo have studied the constitution and know that it is
the reason democracy has lasted in America. Getting rid of
the constitution would be getting rid of a federalist
america.

Throughout history a socialist agenda has never worked to
get a nation out of debt/ to boost the economy. it has
always done the complete opposite (see great Britain since
labour took over.) To promote investing in the private
sector is a far better way to promote economic growth.

In america anyone in public office has to make all their
personal and public records available to the public. It
seriously worries me that none of obama' records are
available, not even his birth certificate. we have no proof
he was born in america ( a prerequisite to become
president).

If obama were to win he would be the most liberal/socialist
leader we have ever had. America was founded because a bunch
of british people wanted to live in a place where there was
no monarch and a very limited government. Obama would throw
off the american system of checks and balances and increase
the power of the presidency. with the already extremely
liberal congress, anything he wants passed would be.

I have more reasons but i think that is enough.
The UK is a socialist state nowadays and if you havent lived
anywhere else it is impossible to know how much the
government is controlling you.
America has been able to remain arguably the best place to
live on earth because we have the constitution which ensures
us the rights to life, liberty and the pursuite of
happiness. Obama said that these were all NEGATIVE rights,
and with that I greatly disagree.


 

online dariusgriffin from cool on 2008-11-01 16:12 [#02249465]
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lol


 

offline yoyoyoyo from Sweden on 2008-11-01 16:14 [#02249467]
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im white, i rule the world bitches


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-02 16:16 [#02249626]
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So, no one contends these arguments?

Pretty poor, say I.

I don't necessarily agree with her, I just want to here
someone with greater intelligence than I oppose such views,
which I find a bit difficult to argue against from a Brit's
point of view.


 

online dariusgriffin from cool on 2008-11-02 16:36 [#02249629]
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okay then

because he hasn't openly stated that he wants to basically
get rid of the constitution. If you are not american I doubt
that yo have not studied the constitution and don't know
that it is the reason democracy hasn't lasted in America.
Getting rid of the constitution wouldn't be getting rid of a
federalist america.

Throughout history a capitalist agenda has never worked to
get a nation out of debt/ to boost the economy. it has
always done the complete opposite (see great Britain since
labour took over.) To promote investing in the private
sector is a terrible way to promote economic growth.

In america no one in public office has to make all their
personal and public records available to the public. It
seriously worries me that all of obama' records are
available, even his birth certificate. we have proof he was
born in america ( a prerequisite to become president).

If obama were to win he would be the least liberal/socialist
leader we have ever had. America wasn't founded because a
bunch of british people wanted to live in a place where
there was no monarch and a very limited government. Obama
wouldn't throw off the american system of checks and
balances and increase the power of the presidency. with the
already extremely conservative congress, anything he wants
passed would be.

I have more reasons but i think that is enough. The UK is a
capitalist state nowadays and if you havent lived anywhere
else it is possible to know how much the government is
controlling you.
America has been able to remain arguably the worst place to
live on earth because we have the constitution which ensures
us the rights to life, liberty and the pursuite of
happiness. Obama said that these were all POSITIVE rights,
and with that I greatly disagree.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2008-11-03 15:14 [#02249814]
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America has been able to remain arguably the worst place
to
live on earth because we have the constitution which ensures

us the rights to life, liberty and the pursuite of
happiness. Obama said that these were all POSITIVE rights,
and with that I greatly disagree.


that's highly controversial


 

online dariusgriffin from cool on 2008-11-03 15:17 [#02249819]
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:)


 


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