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Google it. |
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The timing of this with the Olympics and all that bollocks starting today is a strategic strike of genius. |
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Veeeery close to Iran too... Hmm! |
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yikes! chill the fuck out guys. hopefully we can sort this shit out diplomatically, i don't wanna cold war! |
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1000+ dead in the attack ... every channel is covering the Olympics. Media blackout. |
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2000 dead in 48 hours. Cnn.com is completely spinning the story to make it look like Russia is the bad guy. Why did Georgian troops attack Russia in the first place ? OIL? |
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And when I speak of Georgia and Russia, I mean their LEADERS. The people are the ones who suffer, not these rich fuckers who exploit humanity for their own wealth. |
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Georgia W. Bush lol |
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this is just terrible. i just saw a 15 min. interview with the georgian president on cnn. very disturbing. im so glad im not russias neighbour. russia even makes fun of the georgian president claiming he was the aggressor. they attacked georgias internet and telecommunications, formed their army and attacked mainly civilians. is there a way out of this bloody mess? |
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erm you do realise Georgia attacked first right or is the news in the US really that bad? Your not watching Fox news are you? |
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another boring thousands dead to read about |
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oh really i didnt know, they didnt show that on cnn, while i was watching havent seen any coverage on our german tv at all so far... still sounds strange to me |
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It's ok ijonspeches, CNN is doing a great fucking job skewing the facts as always. |
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New air strike, video footage of aftermath. This is just awful. I feel so alone, everyone is too fucking caught up with the Olympics and Bernie mac. |
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stop the Olympics |
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i'm sorry, but why would a country like georgia attack a country 5000000 times its own size? and when was the last time anyone gave a fuck about russia? |
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russia says georgia attacked first, and georgia says russia were on their territory with apc's first and THEN they attacked. Weird.. i dont think georgia would attack like that, the president obviously knew his country could get ruined. my question is, will the us or anyone else intervene and help georgia, and will such an action cause russia to attack other countries? |
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........Cold War Pt. 3 anyone? |
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just another penis war |
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i'm not defending Russia's reaction, just getting pissed off lately with western bias news coverage which seems to be getting worse and worse. There is no doubt who started it, Georgia sent troops into a region full of Russian nationals to try and force integration into Georgia on the day of the Olympics, coincidence? Russia reacted in a typical Russian way by sending their own troops in escalating it to war. Britain reacted in a similar way when the Falkland islands were attacked. No country likes looking weak, and that was a lot further away than South Ossetia. That Georgian PM is a slimey bugger, i've seen him on the news and you can tell he's trying so hard to make it out that they have been attacked and get western support. |
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this shit is a big deal. im very impressed by nbc, during the opening ceremonies last night; the commentator (as russia's athletes were walking out) and the camera was on putin ... that they actually brought up this issue. what a smart time to start, but i feel really horrible for the people there. |
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ok thanks for the clarification. |
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I don't think the US should get involved seperately. As part of the UN or NATO, fine, but not on our own. |
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Bush saying that it could still be resolved peacefully and that Russia should retreat all military forces, that's pretty ballsy on Bush's part considering how he did things in Iraq. |
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he'll make sure he bitches everything up good before leaving office |
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'shock and awe' i'll never forget that... hypocrites |
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I see what you did there. |
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What did he do? |
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truce requested. |
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A girl never tells. |
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Girls do tell all the time because they are genetically programmed to talk. You're not a girl, what did he do? |
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He used a figure of speech. |
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seems Saakaschwili had not much of a choice when to attack, Georgia had stocked up on arms in recent months and an escalation was on its way anyway... at least surprise effect was on his side last Friday. They've seen a Russian counter attack coming... tahnks to their western military analysts. Now it's either: - Georgia wins (keeps South Ossetia and Abchasia, likely with many people killed). it's a possibility, as the Georgian people is motivated, their army has modern weapons + excellent western training (they definitely use very civilian-unfriendly gear such as MLRS though), and Russia can't stay there forever: they're the bad guys in terms of international law. The initial attack might appear very stupid but if Saakaschwili wins, he be hero, reelected. + rehabilitation is good for the country. - Georgia loses: South Ossetia and Abchasia gain independence or some kind of pseudo independence... Russia has no reason to back off as for now. They could easily devastate Georgia if they needed to. Karma minus two. so what? everyone sees them as the bad guys anyway. (But war is expensive, and they don't really gain anything maximum important through this skirmish, or do they, dunno.) UN won't do anything imo except keep telling them to stop, as always. imo unlikely to escalate into Cold War II or WW III or something... So let's hope not too many people die in this and keep smiling and eat fatty food. IMO |
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thanks for insight |
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cant russia gain a slight profit destroying oil and gas pipelines in the region having even more supremacy on those ressources? anybody knows if this might be an issue? |
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Interfax is reporting that some of the Georgian people have spotted Nato military vehicles moving towards south Ossetia. No one else has picked up on this yet, could be a mistake. |
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right versus wrong good versus evil god versus the devil what side UN on? |
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it wouldn't surprise me if Russia is trying to gain back CIS republics after the dissolution of the USSR. russia is a mess, and they dont learn still that not everybody is part of their so called nation. russia currently an opaque dictatorship vs. georgia a democratic country claiming a neighbor ind. state for no reason?? lol right... |
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The shareholders in the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline are BP (30,1%), AzBTC (25%), Chevron (8,9%), StatoilHydro (8,71%), ТРАО (6,53%), ENI (5%), Total (5%), Itochu (3,4%), Inpex (2,5%), ConocoPhillips (2,5%) and Hess (2,36%). Great link to Russia Today streams |
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^ brilliant! |
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it's very simple. Ever since american imperial strategies have shown the world that a) one state (them) can initiate regime change in another through force(germany, japan, east timor, afghanistan, iraq, ) b) that "anti-terrorism measures" is an effective carte blanche to deply force anywhere for vague reasons ...The other world power, russia, has simply followed suit. all it needs to do is set a trap for an upstart break away republic to annoy them and they siimply roll in, destroy all opposition and claim that they now need permanent military bases there to "stabilise" the region. Where have we seen this before? So Georgia fell for this big time...... but i blame russia for cleverly getting them to act on the mis-judged assumption the west supported them. Now they OWN georgia and will absorb it back into it along with the piplines they were loosing to Nato. Meanwhile the west can't do shit because it's done the same in the middle east. Every defence analyst KNEW this would happen in the Caucasas..... all you need is a map and a history lesson to figure that one out. The chess game continues. |
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just fucking read, don't watch cnn what more can it do than make a war into a sportsgame in which you want to root for one of the teams? i don't care about the latest developments. it's war, war sucks. |
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"A prime example of is the fact that news outlets like the BBC continue to report that 1500 civilians have been killed in Georgia, with the obvious inference being that these are victims of the Russian onslaught. But these victims were not killed in Georgia, they were killed in Ossetia - by Georgian forces." “Georgia does not act militarily without the assent of Washington. The Georgian head of State is a US proxy and Georgia is a de facto US protectorate.” |
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lets get world war 3 on,its only people. |
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yeah! |
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Michel Chossudovsky knows his shit, so far he seems to be giving the clearest story of what's happening over there from what i've read |
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yeah that was an interesting and informative read |
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I met the guy once, he was kind of a dick. I think it was because I looked homeless and had an M-Audio midi controller in one hand and a huge used sears bag full of junk in the other. Academia. |
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if you take a look at the US' occupation of their military in Iraq and Afghanistan... also the fact that they don't really have proper strategic access in that region... but most importantly the current and ongoing maximum failure of their economics... - you'll notice that Chossudovski's conspiracy theories are ridiculous. The US are not in a position to "confront Russia". More likely we'll see revolting, hungry Anglo-Americans in Anglo-America real soon :D imo is my name. |
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