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Net Neutrality. |
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isn't the world also meant to end in 2012? |
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a) tonya was a hawtie, id hit it 2) ill put that in my spam folder c) dont scare "teh people" they might actually beLIEve it 4) |
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5) the nin song in the background |
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a lot of things are pointing to this direction. |
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Pretty disturbing. The chick is pretty hot. |
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Ofcourse it's not. I mean, maybe your stupid government might allow something like that. Mine wont. |
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Obama would support net neutrality. I think bandwidth caps are the way to go, personally- not streamlining subscriptions through commercial sites. I mean the ISPs do have their rights as well. But if they did start piping their service through commercial sites only, The free market would soon create a new ISP that once again gives full access- that's where the demand is. |
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So? They'll do it, they'll get away with it, and that's all. |
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You know, these dongs make an impassioned plea for a free internet and what do they cite as examples? What must be preserved at all costs? Digg, 4chan and somethingawful, the three openest runningest sores on the intnerent. Please sir, save my penis, it has all these valuable precancerous ulcers. Oh what ever will become of my penile chancres. |
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My post last night was a bit hasty. There are many, many reasons why this just isn't possible. For example: The government wont allow it not only because it's not in the interest of the internet users or unethical, but also because a huge part of the economy is dependant on this place an are generating profits because of it. I'm not just talking e-commerce. I'm talking B2B communication on an enormous scale. Another problem like Wolfslice mentioned is you'll need every ISP on board to make it work. Which is simply impossible. For example, in Belgium you can start your own ISP and rent the lines of the cable company (which is partially state property) and set your own bandwith limits, prices and stuff like that. The internet is a system anyone can plug into and it's protocols are developed to allow free exchange of communication. It would make up for a great story. While China's internet is being plagued by her government, the Western world's internet becomes the victim of capitalism. |
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since when do kids like that have any credibility? |
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i second that. this is complete bollocks. much infact like the world supposedly ending in 4 years. |
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Feh, I knew a world without netlabels was too good to be true. |
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thank god i have actual personal contact with my local congressman. he can't avoid me. i'm not saying it's going to accomplish anything but it's a start. you've got to use incrementalism against incrementalism. |
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If they didn't want us to have the access we wouldn't have been given it in the first place, as is the case in some other countries where access to certain areas of the web is prohibited to users. However, I do believe that the Internet will develop over time and become a lot less user-friendly. I feel that we should enjoy file sharing while we can because they will try and find a way to put a stop to it and will probably succeed on the premise that it's illegal - as indeed it is. |
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but i like file sharing! :( |
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athene innit |
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ditto, so fill your boots |
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this is bs |
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The US government owns the internet. |
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The chick in the opening of the video has her tits hanging out. how can i take her seriously? ( seriously take her from what angle do you think?) i mean for god sake what is it with women? do men have clothes designed to show testical cleavearge during important speeches.....did martin Luther king show cleaverage or display his length during his speaches?? of course not. peek a boo testicle bra straps?? wonder bras ,sports bra s for testicals? just completely astonishes me. |
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I'd like to read arguments for this... They'd have to deny that the internet is a public “area,” something which isn't altogether easy to do even though all current access to it comes through private actors. I would imagine, at least here in Norway, that something like customary law would come into play; if you've walked on a trail every day, or at least frequently, over a period of time, if someone then buys the land the trail passes through, it's not entirely unproblematic for them to block off the trail. Usually, the presence of an actual marked trail is enough. I'd also like to see how they avoid the obvious comparison with censorship in different other countries (China, for instance), something “we” westerners criticise at every turn. Is it ok if it is for profit? Or is it only bad if it is a government because private actors somehow differ from governments (in a free market system, it is not actually clear that they would)? |
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lol. noone else noticed the name of the youtube clip? The End of Sex and Porn thats right, this isn't the end of the internet. this is the end of sex and porn. |
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bandwidth caps are garbage. fucking garbage. if i'm downloading a file from CA or South-East-Asia ... i'm traversing more backbones, routers, carriers, etc ... than if I download the same file from my neighbor on the same switch/node. yet i'll still be "charged" the same amount of bandwidth? fuck that. the price i pay for my INET includes money for future (and current) infrastructure upgrades. it's at&t's fault they are not rolling out fiber (one-time-infrastructure install) like verizon ... and reaping the monies off of the existing copper infra. ISPs say they can't handle the bandwidth? what the fuck are you doing with all of the profits. that's the whole point, you take part of your income to support future infrastructure. the price for upgrades gets passed on to the customer, anyways.... oh, and by the way folks...once (if) this shit happens, there is NO going back. i think it's hard for anyone not involved in the tech-sector to fully understand this. |
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and i'm not entirely sure how some of you can be so optimistic saying "it will never happen" i'm fairly certain those people don't understand (in depth)how the infrastructure works, and what the problems the carriers are (or may be) facing. and, the extra profits! think of all the profits!!! |
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i enjoy going to the public library every now and then to see those once lost are found, talking to me. wait until the sidewalks become toll gates from one block to the next. lets force ourselves to isolate ourselves until we can't go anywhere but nowhere. :F |
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omg she's so hot. this is the girl who was offering to shag people if they wore a net neutrality t-shirt |
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those who are for it are those who feel they are being cheated from it. but those being cheated are the wealthy. wealth is power from this deduction i predict that it will happen regardless of what the minorities of minorities of minorities say. no matter how many of those minorities are against it. . . :F i think it will happen. |
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i highly doubt that this is going to happen |
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Hehe the random boob shots while the nerd was talking didn't help to their cause, CRY MOAR NERDS! |
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I'd lose my job and future if this would happen, I think I know what I'm talking about. America owns ICANN yes. But that's about it, if ICANN would fuck up, a replacement could be up and running in days. It's also just impossible to control. You could limit protocols, portranges, the DNS-system and you'll still create immense holes because any form of communication between machines can be (ab)used. Controlling the flow of information between 2 connected machines is simply impossible. Furthermore: there are only bigger profits for a small group of big company's. The government won't become richer because internet activity and thus income will simply drop. The taxable income will be a lot smaller. So I'm not really seeing an advantage for any government at all. |
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i think they're making enough money already with it being free |
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that chick is pretty hot, yeah |
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like ego said.. and on top of that, if someone would try to limit the entire internet like this, and even succeded, a new internet would arise, made by enthusiasts and the like, or they would have to make communications between computers illegal outside of this controlled internet. furthermore, a whole shitload of the infrastructure of economics is held together by the internet, they would have to change a whole lot to sell shit like this. in other words, i can say with 1110% safety that its bs |
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Elusive is so angry about this he became temporarily comprehensible! Well said. |
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when the internet started to gain momentum with real people, all the big names where pushing portals and enclaved communities, eg AOL, LineOne, Compuserve. they were eventually forced to open up once people realised they were shit. what is far more likely is localised broadband connections grinding to a halt because the local connections can't support bandwith. see |
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the world ends with a blue star (asteroid/comet) |
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or cosmic radiation |
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God, is everything privatised over there? Such things are a matter for the police or the special police forces (probably FBI), not the ISPs. First of all, it's a public service and a public responsibility to warn people if they are about to enter a site with child pornography. Second, child pornography is a criminal matter. “No, damn you, it's my property, but I'm not responsible for a single thing on it! Plus, I can charge people money for their child pornography! KA-CHING, eh?!! EH!?” |
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breaking: |
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I still use Usenet, there's a few cool groups like a.b.automobiles.carshows just dig them 60's classic cars. |
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