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offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2008-05-25 12:48 [#02210231]
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i will be working in scotland from july 8th till the end of
august.

i guess that i'll have a bit of free time for
partying/sightseeing, probably i won't even stay in one
place and go around the country.

could you recommend me any nice clubs, gigs, sights and
other interesting things to watch there ? i guess i can find
a lot with google but i would rather want to have some
"insider" info.

also - could you recommend me any stores with music-gear
there ? i guess that as i'm there i'll be buying some stuff
right there.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2008-05-25 12:59 [#02210233]
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I live in Scotland. My advice: don't come.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2008-05-25 13:00 [#02210234]
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too late dude :>


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2008-05-25 13:06 [#02210239]
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In that case, my advice: avoid anyone who looks or sounds
Scottish. If you're near Edinburgh, enjoy the festival if
you can.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2008-05-25 13:10 [#02210243]
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you don't really seem a native.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2008-05-25 13:11 [#02210244]
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I'm not -- I come from London; moved to Scotland aged 12.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2008-05-25 13:16 [#02210247]
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and you love it


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-05-25 13:17 [#02210248]
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i have a friend who was in edinburgh for a year last year -
ill ask her, she had a great time there.


 

offline noseburger on 2008-05-25 13:22 [#02210251]
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why so much hostility to the natives? i've always been
rather fond of the place and the people.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2008-05-25 13:27 [#02210255]
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thanks a bunch !


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2008-05-25 13:42 [#02210256]
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Probably because I came to Scotland an innocent and was
immediately bullied for being English, which lasted for the
first 5 years of my school-life. And outwith school I've
heard numerous Scottish people railing (quite ignorantly)
against "THE ENGLISH", something I've had to put up with for
20 years (I remember people from my school coming out of
watching that piece of shit film Braveheart saying
they wanted to beat up English people).

Also they have "Flower Of Scotland" as their national
anthem, a centuries-old anti-English song.

In summary, Scotland as a whole seems mired in the past and
have a huge chip on their shoulder, an inferiority complex
as a nation, and are quite dour (Andy Murray, anyone?) and
negative in their outlook.

These are just some observations from having to live here 20
years. My mum has more or less the same opinion and she was
born in Edinburgh to a Scottish mother (they moved to London
when my mum was five), and has witnessed similar ignorant
anti-English sentiments.

Also: Settler Watch, a vile little group in the northern
Scottish countryside who made the lives of several English
families a misery for the terrible crime of moving there.


 

offline rudster from the glasgow on 2008-05-25 14:37 [#02210272]
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if your in glasgow, be sure to check out the arches or
soundhaus


 

offline noseburger on 2008-05-25 14:44 [#02210276]
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fair enough, i've only ever been there visting family.... i
have to ask after saying all that, why the hell are you
still there? work? ladies? fried mars bars?


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2008-05-25 14:49 [#02210278]
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Well, now... my daughter (and consequently GF). Also my
parents live here, though they plan on moving too and so do
we in the medium to long term.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2008-05-25 15:20 [#02210290]
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i think i'll give you some free hugs when i come nearby


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-05-25 15:35 [#02210295]
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so any specific cities you will be staying in?


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2008-05-25 15:45 [#02210298]
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glasgow or edinburgh as it will be most easy for me to find
some work there. i'm taking a few friends with me so we
aren't sure yet. but one of those two.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-05-25 15:52 [#02210300]
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i got you a friggin book:

ah ok. well, i could go on for days about good places in
edinburgh do let me leave that for last. Good stuff to check
out around the country: Isle of Skye is probably one of the
coolest places ever, i recommend spending two or three days
there. Orkney Islands have this really cool archaeological
site called Skara Brae which even if you're not into
archaeology is awesome. Orkney is just kind of cool and
bizarre in and of itself
2:37
Stirling is worth a day trip, it's got a sweet castle and
some other cool old stuff
2:38
Glasgow is amazing for shows, alllll the good bands and such
come through there so it's worth checking out what's going
down there at the time. I don't know specific names so much,
but The Arches has some good shows, plus it's all an old
subway station so it's really cool on the inside
2:39
there's really good day hiking in Fife which is within train
distance of Edinburgh. The Fife Coastal Path is really nice.
Also great hiking around Perth in the county, like Dunkeld
and Birnam
2:39
Also, around Glasgow, Loch Lomond is realllllly pretty
2:40
there's highland bus tours that go for two to seven days
depending on what you want to do and those are awesome if
you can't rent a car
2:43
and Edinburgh. Things to see: Edinburgh Castle, take a ghost
tour of Greyfriars Cemetery (kitschy but fun, it's called
City of the Dead Tour), climb Arthur's Seat, Scottish
National Museum and the Royal Muesum (right next to each
other and both free), wandering around the main campus of
Edinburgh Uni at Bristo Square (McEwan Hall and Teviot
Student Union are cool and old looking, as are the law
buildings at Chambers Street and South Bridge)


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2008-05-25 15:59 [#02210301]
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yeah ! thanks for that. although i don't know about staying
in one place for more than a day so i hope that just a
quick-trip will solve it too :> as i said i would want to
earn some money too so i don't know how much free time i
get.

again thanks for the awesome list will check those sites.

as for music gear - i checked soundcontrol.co.uk ? any good
? the prices seem fair and they have most od the stuff i
would want to buy.


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2008-05-26 12:25 [#02210486]
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Exersise caution in a country that prides itself in cross
dressing and whiskey.


 

offline NewSkoolScience from Outer Bongolia on 2008-05-26 15:48 [#02210540]
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Check out The Arches (Pressure) or the Sub Club (Sub
Culture). Don't let Marlowe scare you off our lovely little
country, he's clearly scarred for life.


 

offline NewSkoolScience from Outer Bongolia on 2008-05-26 15:49 [#02210541]
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Those clubs are in Glasgow -- and better than anything
Edinburgh has to offer (lived there for 3 years before
returning to Glasgow).


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2008-05-26 15:58 [#02210542]
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Not at all -- if the people suddenly turned into tolerant
happy people, I'd be delighted.


 

offline NewSkoolScience from Outer Bongolia on 2008-05-26 16:03 [#02210544]
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Sweeping generalisations -- I love it.


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2008-05-26 17:07 [#02210554]
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The Scottish should be happy to have English people around
where do they think the tax comes from that pays their dole.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2008-05-26 17:44 [#02210565]
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I'm sure you're guiltless of it; I'm merely observing based
on 20 years experience of the country and its people... just
e-mail if you need the name of every person in Scotland who
I've had experience of, and using my special dour-o-meter in
each case, we can tabulate the results.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2008-05-26 17:50 [#02210568]
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yeh right on my tax pays for their methodone


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2008-05-27 02:29 [#02210612]
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What I find hilarious is the amount of moaning I've heard
about "The English" stereotyping them... yet so many adverts
for Scottish products feature the very stereotypes which
they rail against. Or go to a sports event and see the
amount of fans wearing those ridiculous tartan berets with
the fake ginger hair.

CLUE: If you want to shed your stereotype, don't perpetuate
it and then complain that you're being stereotyped.


 

offline lupus yonderboy from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2008-05-27 04:45 [#02210630]
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scotland's lovely. Best thing in edinburgh is the 1st week
of the festival, you can get into loads of comedy shows or
£5 a night to see 3 comics as they have trial shows to test
their material before the festival really gets underway.
Some of the unknown comics are loads better than big names.
you get to rub shoulders with stewart lee and the like or if
you're like me punt and dennis. The highlands are
breathtaking. Edinburgh is a beautiful city to visit (modern
art gallery is good-bacon was on last i was there), water of
leith is a nice walk out to it. glasgow is scuzzier and more
lively. belfast=glasgow, edinburgh=dublin (but no as boring
as either=]). Careful with sound control, they're in
administration atm.

/me end directionless rant


 

offline lupus yonderboy from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2008-05-27 04:47 [#02210631]
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get away from princess street in edinburgh. . . get down the
grassmarket or out to the shows on the meadows during the
festival.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2008-05-28 04:03 [#02210876]
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thanks a lot guys.

i'll bump this again when i'm at place so i could maybe meet
some of you.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2012-05-30 12:23 [#02434889]
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bump

are you there yet?

btw yay or naw ?


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-05-30 12:38 [#02434890]
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scotland is awesome. saw hudson mohawke, bought some stuff,
earned some money and bought a pc in which i stuffed hard
drives that we got for free from old servers we recycled
which immediately broke down killing my entire musical
career. i broke up with my girlfriend and got fat and had to
throw away all of the trousers i bought in tk-max for very
cheap. oh and i think i've gone full on racist after the
trip.

loch ness sucked cocks. what a waste of time.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2012-05-30 12:42 [#02434892]
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i'd rather see loch ness than hudson mohawke, I guess...


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-05-30 12:43 [#02434893]
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i didn't say hudson mohawke was better.

although he's gotten pretty awesome right now.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2012-05-30 12:55 [#02434894]
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what about girls. scottish girls.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-05-30 13:01 [#02434895]
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horrible. anything that looked humane was either russian or
polish. fat from contraception pills, stuffed into two sizes
two small jeans and adidas, with frilly makeup.

although there was one very pretty lady at tk-max at the
counter who i totally fell in love with although this forced
me into going there 3 times daily everytime grabbing a pair
of socks. or less.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2012-05-30 13:09 [#02434897]
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LAZY_TITLE

did you get to that festival lupus mentioned above ?


 

offline gingaling from Scamworth (Burkina Faso) on 2012-05-30 17:10 [#02434911]
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yeah scotland sorta sucks on the fanny front.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-05-30 18:29 [#02434918]
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i was in edinburgh at the festival idd. it was absolutely
amazing. i saw some fantastic performances. i can totally
recommend this for anyone going.

as for the fannys: i'm curious if one myth is true as i
didn't have the guts to try. the best way to get a scottish
girl at a bar is supposedly to take some nearly emptied
drinks and pour everything into one glass and then approach
something fuckable and serve it to her.

in my case there wasn't anything remotely fuckable. my head
is to strong for that wattered down scot beer.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2012-05-30 18:30 [#02434919]
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i was in edinburgh at the festival idd. it was absolutely
amazing. i saw some fantastic performances. i can totally
recommend this for anyone going.

as for the fannys: i'm curious if one myth is true as i
didn't have the guts to try. the best way to get a scottish
girl at a bar is supposedly to take some nearly emptied
drinks and pour everything into one glass and then approach
something fuckable and serve it to her.

in my case there wasn't anything remotely fuckable. my head
is to strong for that wattered down scot beer.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-05-31 20:25 [#02435032]
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You get that everywhere in the UK. Now Ireland have been
"free" of England for a while, they bleat about how the root
of all their problems is Germany (despite the fact the only
reason they had an artificial boom was EU-cash, but that's
by the by). Rural Wales is the same, they seem to genuinely
believe that their lot would be better if England didn't
exist. I'm a taff, but fuck me if we wouldn't be screwed
were it not for England.

Back to Sadist's question, I used to work in Scotland quite
regularly and Edinburgh and Glasgow are great. Glasgow is
nowhere near as rough as people make out. You get the odd
psychopath, just like anywhere, but most of them just have a
bark worse than their bite when they get noisy. On the whole
I find them to be very hospitable and intelligent people.


 

offline drill rods from 6AM-8PM NO PARKING (Canada) on 2012-06-03 14:17 [#02435179]
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Trossachs and isle of Arran are cool... some great geology
if that kind o' thing tickles your titties (geology is
pretty IDM)


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2012-06-03 17:00 [#02435185]
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what do you think about Aberdeen then ? have you been there
?


 


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