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offline pigster from melbs on 2008-05-24 08:27 [#02209865]
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well..
anyone else seen this? just got back and.. it's rather odd.
the cgi had some definitely disgusting moments, and the
storys direction is questionable enough that it makes sense
if some people are against it..
however, after much thought, i think i like it. for the most
part, it was pretty funny and had the same kind of charm
from where last crusade left off. also, considering how
ridiculous and over the top the last films have been, i
guess this is a pretty logical step.
for those who have seen (i've tried to make this as
spoiler-less as possible for those who havent), what did you
think?


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2008-05-24 08:39 [#02209867]
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I thought the same but didn´t like it anyway. I cannot put
up with some shit anymore.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2008-05-24 08:42 [#02209868]
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Does Ford look worse in this film than Stallone in the
latest Rambo ?


 

offline pigster from melbs on 2008-05-24 08:43 [#02209869]
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he looks just like old harrison ford. besides the infamous
suit, there seems to be no effort in making him look like
indiana jones. it's just harrison ford in a suit.
it still works though..


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2008-05-24 09:20 [#02209875]
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even though he's not a bad actor he can't make up for a
whole (bad) script, can he...that's why i'm not quite sure i
want to see this film


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2008-05-24 09:32 [#02209881]
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Yeah, he looks old and dusty as Indiana in the 50s should.


 

offline rad smiles on 2008-05-24 09:38 [#02209882]
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i think its funny that on cereal boxes and shit they use the
1984 version of harrison ford to promote the new indiana
jones.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2008-05-24 09:42 [#02209884]
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I remember reading that they wanted to keep CGI to a minimum
and maintain the spirit of "old-style" film-making (old as
in the 1980s); but then I've read that there's a whole CGI
jungle or something, so I'm wondering if they gave up this
idea of authenticity and whether the film suffers for it.


 

offline Rook from United States on 2008-05-24 09:51 [#02209886]
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It was crap. They even made the groundhogs with cgi. Shia
laboof sucked. Cate Blanchett wasn't even half as even as
any of the other villians. Oh, and the story was bogus.

lol Indiana Jones add at the bottom of this page right now
lol.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2008-05-24 10:09 [#02209888]
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all the russians are mad and scared their youths are going
to be brainwashed because of the Communist theme

Индиана Jones
плоха для
Вас!



 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2008-05-24 10:19 [#02209893]
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Джонс



 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2008-05-24 10:25 [#02209897]
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I doubt they even spared the area 51 hangar door from being
done with CGI


 

offline SPD from United States on 2008-05-24 10:47 [#02209906]
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it was straight rock n roll. i don't think i put a lot of
thought into whether i liked it or not...it was just good.
major fun.

Kate Blanchett was the most perfect thing going on in it.

re: the cgi, i think it would have been a genius move on the
filmmakers' part to purposefully use the same old school
optical effects and techniques they used in the 80's. done
in the context of being a huge director with a lot of money
at his finger tips Spielberg had a shot at looking like a
badass in that way. i'm not saying don't used cgi, just used
optical effects too.


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2008-05-24 10:55 [#02209911]
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Hmmm, did you find Kate Blanchett's character entertaining
because you knew it was her? I thought there was absolutely
nothing interesting in her. She was like a parody of a SM
Soviet/Nazi female lieutenant without the funny that parody
implies.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-05-24 10:58 [#02209912]
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i think the movie had a really important message that will
be lost on the majority of the audience


 

offline SPD from United States on 2008-05-24 11:15 [#02209916]
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LOL stay in school.

re: Kate. i just thought she was perfectly has as a cheesy
serial cliffhanger villainess. she was probably actor who
was the most into her role as well, cause it seemed like
everyone else might have been having a little too much fun
making this thing, which i still thought was something great
about it.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-05-24 14:59 [#02209973]
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just good mindless fun i thought. completely ridiculous and
over the top, but fortunately i wasnt hoping for something
to reach the brilliance of raiders or temple of doom
anyway.

also, i went to see it on opening night at midnight in my
college town, so the whole atmosphere of people all walking
around wearing fedoras and drunk as fuck (i was sipping
whiskey and drinkin beers in the second row) just adds that
much more to the fun (seeing snakes on a plane that way was
just utter brilliance).


 

offline diamondtron on 2008-05-24 15:29 [#02209986]
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the latest rambo is shockingly good (at the cinema)
BRUTAL
stallone is total class with every year that passes
the balls!



 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2008-05-24 15:45 [#02209993]
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I'm tired of hearing people complain about the fridge scene
because it was the greatest thing. Not directed at you,
xltronic, you're good people.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2008-05-24 15:54 [#02209996]
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Is that in the new Indiana Jones film?


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2008-05-24 16:12 [#02210004]
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I didn't mind the fridge. That was over the top in the right
way.

The new rambo movie is awesome indeed, haha.


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2008-05-24 16:13 [#02210005]
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Actually the fridge thing reminded me of the intruductions
to James Bond movies, which end with firing up the jetpack
and the like.


 

offline Vin3islih from United Kingdom on 2008-05-24 16:59 [#02210033]
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It was pretty good. About as good as I could have hoped
for. I mean what elese did people want/expect? 'They' and
by 'they' people who've seen it know what I am talking
about, I knew they had to turn up in an Indiana Jones movie
eventually.

I think they left it a tad too long to do another movie
though. it felt like there should have been one ten years
ago that this one is following up. I had no problems with
any CGI. there was barely any in it! What there was didn't
get much in the way seeing as there wasn't much in it!


 

offline pigster from melbs on 2008-05-24 20:56 [#02210116]
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spoilers.if indiana can survive riding down those
insane rivers at the start of the temple of doom, then im
sure he's perfectly capable of surviving a nuclear blast in
a fridge. i also loved that mac character, who let out an
incredible amount of "Jonesy"s during the film. as odd as it
was seeing the cgi aliens and space crafts in an indiana
jones, i'm glad they used it in the film, espicially
considering the last film dealt with the bible and holy
grail.
i let out a giggle at the scene in the warehouse where the
crate with the arc breaks open and the score from raiders
slips in. even funnier considering they used the very same
joke in last crusade.


 

offline pigster from melbs on 2008-05-24 21:12 [#02210119]
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oh! and lols at "i have a bad feeling about this."


 

offline SPD from United States on 2008-05-24 21:45 [#02210123]
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i thought immediately that the fridge/nuclear test site idea
was a nod to or a recycle from the original idea for Back to
the Future which was that a refrigerator was the time
machine and the movie opened at a nuclear test site cause
you needed nuclear power to run the thing.


 

offline pigster from melbs on 2008-05-24 23:21 [#02210127]
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the original back to the future had mcfly travelling through
time in a nuclear powered fridge!?



 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2008-05-25 05:10 [#02210157]
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I liked this film a lot. There were a few indeed odd things
in it, like the cgi groundhogs, but luckily they only appear
at the beginning of the movie. What i also found quite odd
was the intro to the movie... At first i thought what this
scene had to do with IJ, but it was just to wake the
illusion of this 'army' being friendly comrads (i think).
And also, what happened to the title screen? I can barely
remember it, but i think it looked kinda amaturistic, just
the plain black fonts... But then the first action bit was
awesome, the fridge bit made up for the pain a lot, and then
it went smack bang back into the traditional indiana jones
style movie. And i enjoyed it, a lot.

The new Rambo was kinda meh, too much kills they wanted to
put in 90 minutes (or so) of movie which felt like they
couldn't squeeze in any more storyline because of the 1000
liters of blood was already filling it's spot on the
bandwagon. But then again i liked it because the killing was
quite harsh, and i like that, it makes me laugh.

I also may have to recommend trying Iron Man, it's not the
same story as Marvel told it, but i enjoyed this a lot.


 

offline retape from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2008-05-25 16:27 [#02210304]
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this movie was everything I expected, really. a lot of fun
and over-the-top scenes. the introscreen I believe was the
same font used in raiders and last crusade, so that's
probably why it looked a bit amaturish.

also, I didn't know Shia was in the movie until I saw the
beginning credits, which was nice cus I've grown to like
him. brought a lot to the movie, imo.

I'm not gonna overanalyze this film, it shouldn't be, so I'm
just gonna leave it at "worth it".


 

offline SPD from United States on 2008-05-26 07:42 [#02210423]
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yeah the time machine was going to be a fridge, but they got
scared that kids would get in their fridges and die so they
changed it. then they made it into a car so it would be
mobile. it became a DeLorean specifically because of the
joke about the car looking like a UFO on the kids comic
book. they needed a car that looked all future like that.


 

offline pigster from melbs on 2008-05-26 08:02 [#02210431]
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haha thats brilliant. maybe its my horrendous imagination,
but i cannot imagine back to the future being as successful
had the time machine been a fridge.


 

offline thecrimsonguard from ∞ (United States) on 2008-05-26 08:56 [#02210444]
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...this movie was bad, really bad.

MAJOR SPOILERS

I wasn't a big fan of Temple of Doom but this movie make
that one look like gone with the wind.

It was entertaining on a certain level but I caught myself
laughing a lot due to the ridiculous shit happening.

I think its really strange how these alien skulls are so
highly magnetic that you can throw gun powder in a huge
warehouse and it will fly towards the box containing the
skull...it will pull almost any metal object towards it
thats made of any kind of metal metallic and
non-metallic...yet when you cover it with a PIECE OF CLOTH
its magnetically powerless.

*grenades don't have gun powder in them either*

the bomb site town... why does the sink not work but a dummy
with a garden hose has running water? what's the fucking
point with that? And then the fridge... oh he survived
because it was lined with lead. I didn't know that stuff
also shielded you from intense heat and being tossed arond
from the blast wave only too see him get out of it (some how
b/c thats the kind that doesn't allow you to open it from
the inside hence the back to the future choice to go with a
car.)

that graveyard scene... who the fuck were those assholes
with the masks jumping around like retards with the blow
guns that apparently have both ends of a poison tipped
dart...

the chase through the jungle was insanely stupid. A where
have you ever seen one of those trucks with the huge buzz
saws before? the whole tarzan thing with the monkeys oy. I
guess monkeys are cool with you if you have the same
'greaser' haircut...and know that they should attack
communists...

the snake scene with Indy stuck in the sand...what a bunch
of shit.

the triple agent douche bag...

the janitor from scrubs as a fed

and what the fuck was with Indy? It sounded like he joined
the military at some point... i mean, no backstory there?
we're suppose to figure that out for ourselves? or are they
saving that for Indy 5 the prequal/sequal



 

offline thecrimsonguard from ∞ (United States) on 2008-05-26 09:05 [#02210446]
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the movie has no depth what so ever. I read someplace that
they were going to keep CGI to a minimum but the cut of the
movie i saw apparently took a shit all over that.

and then the lost city... thats protected by the 'undead'
who apparently have been sealed into the fucking stone walls
for who knows how long... and why were they still there...
weren't there other people that came in and stole the
skull(s) to begin with... and apparently the undead can be
shot and killed (they can be in zombie movies but there's no
backstory here)

so when they replace the skull what's the big reward? the
aliens melt your fucking BRAIN... where have we seen this
before? Raiders maybe?

My expectations weren't great going into this movie after
what George Lucas did to the Star Wars franchise but I
thought that Steven Spielberg would at least slap him in his
fat face and say no tubby... but apparently that didn't
happen. So another franchise I love soiled with another
shitty sequel that will a ton of bank and make the investors
think these two douche bags still 'have it'


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2008-05-26 09:26 [#02210447]
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i was expecting this film to be absolute shite but
surprisingly ended up really enjoying myself. just a bit of
silly fun. not to be compared with the old ones but a good
bit of mindless time killing. interesting to see them going
with the whole new age ancient genetic manipulation sun of
god worshipping inca mayan apocalyptic cyrpto-psychotic
thing


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2008-05-26 10:13 [#02210461]
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I'm just reading that Shia Lebeef's character is part-based
on Brando in The Wild One... and that Spielberg gave
him that film along with Rebel Without A Cause and
Blackboard Jungle to watch to help "find" his
character... ha! I don't think he's quite in the same league
as Brando or James Dean... he's hardly in the same league as
Yogi Bear... hot diggity, the more I read about this film,
the more trepidation I have about seeing it.

yahoo.com article



 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2008-05-26 16:28 [#02210547]
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easy there, angry video nerd :P


 

offline rad smiles on 2008-05-26 16:45 [#02210548]
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c'mon, did you really expect anything anyways?


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2008-05-26 17:48 [#02210567]
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At first... but remember at first people were excited
by the prospect of a new Star Wars film...

Seems this one's already taken over $300,000,000 worldwide.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2008-05-26 17:52 [#02210570]
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this isnt about money, honest.


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2008-05-26 20:53 [#02210590]
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Saw it on a CAM. Wasn't just the CGI that looked bad.


 

offline diamondtron on 2008-05-27 01:47 [#02210608]
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i wanted to enjoy it
started falling asleep in the middle and tutting at the end
it was good enough, barely
but shame that the films get progressively worse
worth a dvd rent
rambo on the other hand was a cinema treat, shockingly
brutal


 

offline freqy on 2008-05-27 12:27 [#02210737]
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Good bits:

i want to see it again i liked it allot

indi did well with the action bits ....i forgot how old he
was '65 '....seemed like the same young indy at times.

really good ...some of the cgi was awesome. but much of it
is a cartoon feel errgg!! why?!???...

a good film will take you in and you can forget your sitting
in an arm chair...mix in cgi and your constantly reminded
its not real.

always analising ....is that cgi?? of definately is its a
talking giraffee !! what about that??? what did indi say
there was a dancing moose behind him , justs puts me off the
immersion and flow.

whats with lucas always raming a furry animal in?

even in the new star wars in space he had a chipmonk
floating in zero g going ...."yyyeeeeeeeekkk""

he needs to do kids cartoons , he would be awesome at it.

great film tho im gonna see it again on line.





 

offline freqy on 2008-05-27 12:47 [#02210742]
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hey i thinks he's gonna do another one after this because he
didn't let his son wear his hat at the end he took it and
put it back on..

he will pass it down in indi 5 or 6 perhaps?



 

offline freqy on 2008-05-27 12:55 [#02210745]
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lucas indiana 5:>

Asked about a sequel at a Cannes Film Festival party, he
says he answered: "'I guess if I found an object for him to
go after, we could do the sequel. But it took me 20 years to
find the last object, so I don't know whether that will ever
happen.' "

20 years to figure that plot out? jeesus...

i bet there are thousands of people out there that could
write a draft script to an awesome new indi film
...something believable too.



 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2008-05-27 14:16 [#02210769]
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i think he means that it took 20 years to come up with a
cool plot, then descided he couldn't think of a good one and
went with aliens


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2008-05-27 15:40 [#02210782]
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"But it took me 20 years to find the last object"

How long does it take to go to a library and browse the New
Age History section?


 

offline thecrimsonguard from ∞ (United States) on 2008-05-27 18:24 [#02210823]
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"it took 20 years to find the last object"

Fuck that guy!! If it took so long to figure out what the
next item would be... why did he take a whole 10 minutes to
flesh out the final draft of the script? It honestly felt
like they wrote this steaming piece of shit as they were
shooting it. "We've got the basic idea, we'll fill in the
missing pieces as we go... with ewoks or something"

the other thing that pissed me off was the opening scene.
In every previous movie there was always the opening scene
that had Indy in some strange situation that had nothing to
do with the main story... looking for some different item...
this movie didn't have that at all, I had "a bad feeling
about this" <-- make sure you lift lines from the other
franchise you buttfucked royally GL

and if the movie made 300 million in the opening weekend you
can bet your ass there's going to be 3 scripts Lucas found
underneath a tub of bacon fat or whatever that fat fuck
fills his fat bearded fucking face with. And they'll
probably all star Shia LaDouchebag (wtf is that guy in every
fucking movie anyway?)


 

offline freqy on 2008-05-27 18:56 [#02210826]
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jones got inside a fridge and was blown 4 miles across a
desert by a nuclear bomb!

y know the evil woman with black hair ....y know the cgi
woman ...she was cgi? right? haha kifddin

i do like the film allot it sjust some things just seem to
over board. ..i spose its for the kids too ay.





 

offline freqy on 2008-05-27 18:57 [#02210827]
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"We've got the basic idea, we'll fill in the
missing pieces as we go... with ewoks or something"

did he really say that?



 

offline freqy on 2008-05-27 18:57 [#02210828]
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haha :P


 


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