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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-10-01 18:53 [#02332605]
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how bout whole neurons
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-10-01 18:54 [#02332607]
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how bout just a different brain alltogether, kim peek's brain, but with less doofishness, and just eliminate that stupid humor of his.
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-10-01 19:00 [#02332613]
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kim peek is not very intelligent just good at remembering and recalling things
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2009-10-01 19:07 [#02332620]
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well that's intelligence to me, maybe not inventive, but more intelligent than most. And the fact that he makes connections between various streams of data is pretty interesting.
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-01 19:09 [#02332621]
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what i meant by the comment was max 5 still uses the same basic audio engine as previous versions- which imo sounds weak compared to something like supercollider. Shame they didn't overhaul it too.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-10-01 19:49 [#02332629]
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may i ask what that means to one who is willing to learn it?
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-01 19:57 [#02332632]
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it just has it's strengths and weaknesses like any other tool.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-10-01 19:59 [#02332633]
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to clear things up, basically i'm pretty fine with the idea of reading quite important thingies in my language wrote by one who claims to teach music concepts in a certain way. i'm also fine with the idea of the do not write fucking code to make music :)
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-01 20:06 [#02332635]
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I'm sticking with reaktor for now, Reaktor is much less dependent on order of signal flow so you can throw something together more quickly and not loose your sense of creativity. but it's useless comparing the 2, they are very different, i'm just too lazy to get to grips with max now
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-10-01 20:11 [#02332638]
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with this shit of the crisis i'm stuck at work doing nothing for most of the time, i plan to put there all the lazyness/complain and stay focused at night
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-01 20:16 [#02332640]
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do it!
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TroutMask
from New York City (United States) on 2009-10-01 22:02 [#02332649]
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You're absolutely right. SC3's sound engine is superior to all.
Max/MSP is not that much better than any other graphical music-making method, unless you're willing to learn how to interface it with its Java interpreter (or some other thing like that) which is still pretty weak at best. At that point, you might as well move to SC3 or ChucK.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-10-02 08:11 [#02332715]
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at that point you might move to a couple bottles and a stick which engine is superior than Max, SC3 or ChucK put together
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TroutMask
from New York City (United States) on 2009-10-02 09:39 [#02332759]
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Prove it.
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-10-02 09:40 [#02332761]
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makes better music at least
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-10-02 09:41 [#02332762]
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axons won't do shit
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-10-02 09:42 [#02332764]
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dendrites?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-10-02 09:43 [#02332765]
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axons won't do shit
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-10-02 09:43 [#02332766]
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dendrites?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-10-02 09:43 [#02332767]
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i repeat
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-10-02 09:44 [#02332768]
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axons won't do shit
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-10-02 09:44 [#02332770]
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axons wont do shit!
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-10-02 09:45 [#02332772]
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i hope it's clear
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-10-02 09:47 [#02332773]
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stick an axon up your arse
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-10-02 09:51 [#02332774]
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jk
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MetallicaDude
from the stazhole on 2009-10-02 09:51 [#02332775]
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your cool mohamed
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-10-02 10:02 [#02332777]
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lol, i have to prove you nothing. also, your position lacks credibility.
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-02 10:30 [#02332782]
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OhmBoyz explains it
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-10-02 11:03 [#02332789]
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this thread needed no therapy
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-02 13:28 [#02332849]
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You need the OhmBoyzzzzz to explain how to use MAX they will make a video and then you can use the buttons to EDIT-IT
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-03 03:43 [#02333002]
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Mo, the following is what I'll be studying over the next few months. If you wanted I'd be more than happy to send you lecture notes, example patches and the like.
1. Develop students knowledge and skills in the use of interactive technologies that can be employed to interface with music, soound, and video. This will include expanded use of MIDI systems and control. This may involve in-depth use of technologies such as the I-Cube system (incorporating use of CV to MIDI conversion using devices such as heat, light, proximity, and touch sensors), the Soundbeam system (incorporating ultrasound to MIDI sensors) and MIDI lighting desks.
2. Analysing and investigating different creative applications of new interactive technologies. This will involve increasing students knowledge and skills in developing interactive installations that involved use of sound, as well as working cross-media, and examining a range of compositional techniques.
3. Develop skills in object-oriented programming in the form of Max/MSP and introducing student to Radial (for loop based control) and Jitter (for audio-visual interaction and manipulation).
4. Introduce student to Archaos and VJam for MIDI based video control.
5. Develop students compositional skills, with particular relevance to real-time computer interaction, and use of live electronics in performance.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-03 03:49 [#02333003]
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I'll chuck in my stuff from last year too if I can find it.
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freqy
on 2009-10-03 06:19 [#02333017]
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Mohamed how can I email you ?
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freqy
on 2009-10-03 06:25 [#02333019]
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profile updated , please email me !
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-10-03 07:07 [#02333033]
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woah! that's neat, Sam. i'll hook you up once i get familiar with the program. it should take a few days for book comes out, i'm pretty curious to have a look on it.
freqy: my email is vudujack@gmail.com
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-10-03 07:08 [#02333034]
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lol what did i type there
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-10-03 07:24 [#02333037]
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hey sounds good but this:
3. Develop skills in object-oriented programming in the form
of Max/MSP
is LOL. Max/MSP is not OOP (although how it looks like might imply that oh, there's objects, so it's oop). Tell that to the person who wrote this line!
and try Processing imo.
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2009-10-03 08:34 [#02333055]
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you can do OOP stuff using javascript objects.
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2009-10-03 08:53 [#02333061]
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okay didn't know that.
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TroutMask
from New York City (United States) on 2009-10-04 11:57 [#02333500]
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It's still pretty limited though, last I heard.
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TroutMask
from New York City (United States) on 2009-10-04 11:58 [#02333502]
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Because of the strangely-huge user community, Max/MSP has a host of objects that can imbed other (better) languages into Max/MSP, thus giving it a pseudo-OOP feel.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-10-21 11:11 [#02338109]
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@krimson: il libro sta per uscire se ti interessa, qui c'è una demo:
http://www.virtual-sound.com/sv/demo/meesd_demo.pdf
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