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anybody tried it? is it easier as it's claimed to be? |
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I'm sure easier is relative. If easier equals prettier, than maybe. |
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hi gl0tch. at the end i didn't started with Max yet cos i was waiting for v5 for intel to come out, but i didn't d/l the demo yet. did you? it will take ages for civic schools to begin Max 5 courses. |
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i'm trying to learn it now, it seems fun like reading the Commodore 64 manual =) if i do it they will have my money. |
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A friend of mine is learning this in school, and he loves it. From what he describes it sounds practically mirror to reaktor 5 in the programming ease. If you understand one you can move into another. The ability to compile your effects and instruments is pretty hawt tho. |
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the last time i've heard about a course in italy was last year, 600 km from where i live so i have no choice i think, but step by step with no hurries.. after d/ling the demo i needed something to convince myself to start, so i opened a reverb patch and played around a bit. it started a drum loop and when i pressed on the third preset button it applied a long reverb that sounded just wow. this is the shit. |
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With any of this technology; it doesn't really require a course. Just some patience with yourself and the software, a desire to learn, and time. |
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how do you crak dat shit |
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The newest versions don't crack very well. Which is all fine and good because cycling 64 is a smaller company that is very much a part of the community. They have great deals for students and have very reasonable group buy in deals. |
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thanks for the encouragement =) |
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yes, i wasnt asking for a preach tho. |
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thres no k for mac afaik, you could try resetting the demo when someone comes out with a solution althought it implies that you mess with interlock/pace files n stuff |
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and btw, for the first time fuck the crack after so much effort learning. |
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you are right, it'll just be another month then. |
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There are Max group buys? I thought Cycling didn't do that. |
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Yeah they do. They did a massive one (around 250 people) a few years back actually. I almost signed up, but decided I didn't want to spend the money and have to learn another live enveloping hobby. |
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I wasn't preaching, I was more of a roundabout way of saying that paying for it is worth it. Preaching would have gone more along the lines of "You shouldn't buy cracked software you hellion you, support the developers, etc etc, cheeseburgers." I am the last person in the world who would tell people not to used cracked software. That said, I will offer suggestions on which software I think is more worthwhile to pay for. |
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i know its worth paying for, don't worry. but the choice is currently between actually having something to eat for a month or having the lastest max. i don't really have a choice. |
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MSP still sounds pretty shit but the interface is loads better. performance mode is great and vector graphics for zooming is super useful. get a student discount. you can get a 9 month trial for £30. followed by a £100 upgrade to the full version. |
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sorry man. i know that feeling, but shit comes and goes. i'm not the one who can save some money and when it happens to have some extra cash in my pockets i prefer to get rid of them. the education thing sounds smart, all i need now is go outside a school and pick up a random student. @ lupus: what exactly mean by 'still sounds pretty shit' |
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* do you |
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Let me elaborate. I never tried to make you feel guilty for wanting a crack of it. I am the last person in the world to criticize anyone for cracked software simply because I have so much of it. Feel free to use cracks all you want without having to worry about me judging you for it. I just wanted to put in my two cents in saying you won't be disappointed if you pay for it. |
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it has the best music tuts i've ever read |
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I want the Ableton/Cycling collaboration. Please. Soon. |
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weed slows down things |
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so, at the end i gave up the tut in english BUT after two years of waiting the first max/msp book in italian langage is almost to come out! it startes to explain all the technical stuff from scratch, and the author is renewed for his accessible yet qualified explanatory skills. look, synthesis and panning chapters in the beginning! |
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I had some fun too with the max tutorials, I was impressed for their quality. Thay aren't that hard to follow in english, no? |
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just got the demo of version 5 on my mac. definitely going to need to read some tutorials to get an idea of where/how to start, but I like the total freedom of max. |
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i seem to remember finding this book quite useful i was starting max. it comes from a musical angle first, rather than technical + has a CD of example patches. Doesn't cover MSP tho. The max tuts are top and a must read. |
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maybe it was the wrong moment, dunno i just tend to walk away if something doesn't catch my attention. i don't have many problems with english nowadays but it's some task to translate all the stuff when you finish the day and you just want to have some music fun, at that point i just prefer to listen. i've posted about languages mechanisms from months and i wont bother now, hopefully tryin this book is better than tryin a 1.700€ course! |
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that book will probably go deeper than the tutorials and is surely better than a course in which you get the tutorials translated and nothing more. From what I could grasp learning max/msp is a full time job and requires a lot of dedication since you are really learning a programming language (yet visual). The fun part starts when you got skillful enough to build your own stuff from scratch. I guess. Because I got bored aswell. |
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haha, yes you're teaching yourself a way to think actually, so it needs the fertilest ground. the demo lasts only for a month so let's say that you pass some shitty days cos of the weather then you take some pauses no? then you have to do the come back onto certain concepts and some other days you are still so and so and so on and everything TRANSLATING. man i've developed a professional set of excuses to do not music that only the purest word can save me |
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and then there's this argument: push buttons that make music or learn a program that makes button to be pushed to make music? I went for the short-term satisfaction option but maybe I'll try again to sit down and tinker with max. |
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pushing buttons virtually or phisically it's fun if you know what's behind that action, and operating from a human point of view it's not an easy task whatever the instrument. for me the difference is not much in the way you make something, it's how you get there that gives that plus that allows you to take advantage of technology. sorry for all those 'you' |
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Yes mo! Lets make stuff together! |
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let's make a baby first |
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Ok! |
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:D |
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its more than just for music.you can do almiost anything with it ! its totally rad! check out baz tutorials on youtube for A/V type stuff....give it 4 weeks you'll be guiding rockets to mars if you want. or making robots dogs that chase pizza leaflet men and bite their buts.. whatever you like. |
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thanks for your benediction freqy ...O…• ./( Ω )\ ||jesus|| °°•.†.•°° |
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jesus was a pretty dope dude |
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like a hippy |
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are you a religious guy MetallicaDude? |
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no |
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i like religion though its interesting |
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good, i don't know why i asked |
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max still sounds pretty shit |
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i wish i had the axons required to know Max/MSP. the future would be great if axons could be injected to the brain, so we wouldn't have to spend time learning things. |
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axons wont do shit! |
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dendrites? |
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