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very good read. |
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for more on escaping the pyramid scheme paradigm of the modern music industry, I present Jakob Lodwick's Normative llc LAZY_TITLE |
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yeah. he also uploaded it to what.cd and currently available for freeleech. atm it has 1668 seeds. i also posted but oh well. |
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like i said in a previous thread, there is no room for new artists in this electronic music community unless your original, flashbulb may be good programmers, but they lack originality. i downloaded an album and i could hear shit i'v heard for years, absolutley nothing new here...i dunno maybe others like it, but i cant get into it |
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as if he was going to make money on it anyway lolo |
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do, do, do, lookin out my back door THERE'S ALREADY A FUCKING TOPIC ABOUT THIS YOU CUNT |
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wait, didnt he bitch about downloading when Sublight closed its doors, saying it was all our fault? |
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cronenburger nails it, it's down for the count |
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gl0tch - yeah i think he did. at least he's changed his attitude now. i'm considering donating simply out of respect (not too keen on the actual album, but i admire what he's done). also, wisp is now on alphabasic, and benn jordan said he wants to continue release all albums on alphabasic using this method. |
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Don't donate the fucker a single penny. First he hates people for sharing his music, then he shares other peoples music himself via oink, totally contradicting his original ideology and now he's changed his mind again to "support" file-sharing of his own material? Fuck that. He has done it for the publicity, plain and simple. |
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well. yeah. there are reasons for not donating as well. the reason i wanna donate though is because there's no way i can pay for all the music i download, and a change in the music industry IS needed. seeing as benn jordan is a member of oink and all the torrent sites, he obviously understands this himself. seeing that the album was available for freeleech download and was uploaded by the artist himself on what.cd was a pleasant surprise, and i wanna donate money simply for that. maybe i'll wait and see what wisp releases. i've always wanted to support him as well, so i look forward to what he brings out (that is, if he does release anything new on alphabasic). |
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larn, i agree. |
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fuck flashbulb, i inadvertently dl'd his tunes a few years ago off slsk which were mislabeled to appear as a real IDM artist. this is just another publicity stunt which is slightly less ghey. larn, cronenburger & brisk own this thread. |
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i'll agree that his music isn't very good. i never said it was. i normally bag it. the reason i said i was considering donating is simply because he runs a record company and has just released his new album in a way that i respect and can appreciate. if people actually donated to this kinda thing, then other people might catch, and also release their music in a similar fashion. (keeping in mind, i've got a fair feeling there are ALOT of you who soulseek and torrent majority of the music you listen to.) eh? |
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might catch on* |
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he is fronting, with a certain degree of false claimage, as if to be on the forefront of this emerging music distribution model, positioning himself as some kind of revolutionary. even though i do wholesomely agree with his philosophy |
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Benn didn't try to be pretentious about this. He made a post on his personal blog (http://www.bennjordan.com/blog/?p=34) and quietly uploaded the torrents. Someone on what.cd's IRC brought this post to admins' attention, they read the attached note, liked it, and featured it on the front page. This certainly wasn't intended as a publicity stunt. I love Benn Jordan's music, and I enjoyed this album as well. I miss the breakcore madness of his earlier works, but Soundtrack To A Vacant Life is a very thought-out, high quality, interesting album. It's atmospheric, cinematic, detailed, mostly instrumental and not very experimental. After a couple of good listens I'm still picking up faint samples and little noises that I didn't notice before, and really enjoying the melodies. Did I mention that the album is extremely well-mastered and mixed? Plus, the regular Flashbulb haters can't claim that it's a Squarepusher ripoff any more :P |
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that missing week kinda reminded me of tetra-sync.. but that might just be a stretch of a comparision. it's true that he's moved on with his sound. i enjoy it, but it's a bit too 'typical' sounding for me. theres something about the drums (the samples) that sound realy tacky as well. i wish i had the patience to listen to it. 31 tracks of this is such a difficult listen for me. |
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i wish i had the patience to listen to it all*. |
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Hi Benn write any thompin' rock riffs lately? Your earlier music would be good if it had a half life of more than a week. |
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"like i said in a previous thread, there is no room for new artists in this electronic music community unless your original, flashbulb may be good programmers, but they lack originality. i downloaded an album and i could hear shit i'v heard for years, absolutley nothing new here...i dunno maybe others like it, but i cant get into it " " absolutley nothing new here" Give me the name of a truly original electronic music that’s come out in the past 10 years? That's right there isn’t one.. “IDM” elitists are far too wrapped on what’s happened in the past to even look at new and influenced material, it's almost as stupid as the "rockism" mentality. And it's a valid testament to the mainstream perception that electronic music isn’t seen as legitimate as other genres of music, despite the fact that it can be and generally is all encompassing of a plethora of instruments. Rock bands have been doing nothing new all this time yet they can still get away with using the same guitar, bass, drums and lead singer set up, god forbid an electronic musician does an album with the same drums and synth for a whole album and people would flat out crucify it. The 3 most current flashbulb albums to me have distinct enough melodies and style to warrant me wanting to listen to another album. Most fans are aware of his more obvious influences and understand that influence alone isn’t a good reason to dismiss an artist. Some people are just too wrapped up in t3h ap3hxbeetz. |
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while i'll agree electronic music isn't as original or exciting as it was during the 90s, but if i was to think of current original artists, there is NO. FUCKEN. WAY. benn jordan would even come close to being on a top 50 list. |
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hopefully wisp releases something on alphabasic. i've never been able to find any wisp cd's, though i'd be happy to donate a happy amount of money for his next album just to make up for it. |
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"god forbid an electronic musician does an album with the same drums and synth for a whole album and people would flat out crucify it." I see no problem with that - it's the whole point of electronic music for me > new sounds and unheard combinations makes musics that's innovative and worth listening to. (therefore are sqp's amen break-usage a "god forbid" and all stuttering/retriggering in most idm a "god forbid" > evolve!) |
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In regards to that I'm taking about comparing something like an acoustic guitar/singer combo for an album comparing to someone with one synth sound and a drum machine, it's increasingly rare to hear electronic music with as minimal set up as that, yet be kept interesting for an entire album without all the extra elements, I agree that electronic music is all about new sounds and unheard of combinations etc. but it’s one avenue that I’m interested In seeing more of. As for the amen thing, the annoying thing is the people that have the mentality that squarepusher and aphex are the only ones who are allowed to do that sort of thing, the kind that take the techniques when done by other artists at face value rather than listening to the music. Just because wisp uses the techniques that have been done before doesn’t mean I don't highly enjoy his work, I just find it weird when some people can get past stuff like that. It perplexes me to hear people say wisp/flashbulb/insert name here isn’t real IDM when no one knows what IDM really is. |
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how is the new flashbulb IDM? im not too fond of putting artists/songs/sounds into genres, but just because the album has a few glitchy drums (and because of his more electronic sounding history) i don't see how this should be regarded as an 'electronic' album. the sound he's going for is much more natural and acoustic.. sorry i've this post seems like im just argueing. i'm pretty tired atm and probably grumpy as hell. |
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I'm tempted to repackage the torrent and include his old diatribe on the evil that is file sharing, sitting alongside a nice screenshot of his old oink account and the million or so albums he had leeched and shared over the years. Sorry for going on about this, but it's really hard to take a thing this guy says seriously after that. |
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Lovely, the same discussion in 2 threads now. Lack of moderation and someone who doesn't read the board before he posts makes this very interesting discussion a bit unorganized. |
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pigster: I didn't say the new one was, more referring to the past. I'm waiting for mine to ship before I listen and given that I'm in Australia that may be a while . |
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ah right right. i was reading comments from the what.cd forums. someone was saying how brilliant the album was and with this release, benn jordan's face should be the IDM genre image as opposed to richard d jame's famous grin. |
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hahaahahahha yeah right. |
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"wait, didnt he bitch about downloading when Sublight closed its doors, saying it was all our fault?" Yes. Personally, I think all this MP3 MODEL stuff is 8 years to late. The internet, mp3's, and music sharing websites have been around for a very long time. It is just making people look old lol. It's like when an old person discovers how to burn a cd. "Look ! I PUT MACY GREY AND JAMES BLUNT ON ONE CD !" "Yes, yes I KNOW MOM relax ..." |
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Not directed to Flashbulb, but to all artists: Go to school/get a fucking job like the rest of us. |
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shit music is shit music. |
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oh, you clearly dont listen to anything, probably just boring rephlex shit. sylvian cheveau, greg haines, modeselektor, goldmund, sub rosa label, city centre offices.... look around man. |
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jaysus im reading your posts and its so obvious you havent heard anything else than typical proem idm glitch shit. how can anyone point you to new direction while youve been deaf for last, i dunno, 5 lyears ? minimal setup >? jaysus look at 12k and their releases, look at raster-noton and buro sublabel, or happy/term, check out thinner/autoplate, man. |
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Cylob just did the exact same thing with his new EP "Late in the Day" on What.cd ... did The Flashbulb set a revolution? I know it already was available for free but this torrent contains a html file which looks a lot like The Flashbulb one. hello, it is hoped that you have enjoyed this cylob release. if this is so, and you decide to keep the mp3 files, you may donate towards equipment costs using the button below. please note, the email address used for these paypal transactions is chris -at- durftal -dot- com. any queries: dj_cylob@durftal.com For further information, visit: |
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Is it a 'good read' still sadist or have changed you mind? |
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teh flashbulb |
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there's a few missing words in that last post but I understand it totally.. |
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I did donate to Cylob for the new "ep". Becuase I like him. Bit disappointing, though. |
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teh flashbulb: revolutionary |
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Go to school/get a fucking job like the rest of us. Amen. |
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sorry - i thought my topic would die soon as i realised that i doubled it |
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revolution !?! Impakt,Orangedust,Earvalve,Mithra,3x!13,Planet Boelex ... tabarnak we have been releasing music for free for a very long time now. |
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i put up an mp3 once |
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K300i: You obviously didn’t read my posts properly then seeing as the point of them is complaining about the way elitists view electronic music in reference to older stuff in a dismissive manner, trying to pigeon hole a genre that isn’t really a genre. Ie people that have a cry when BOC put guitars in their muisc, people that think john cage is a rip off of aphex twin. I’ve got no idea why your mentioning stuff like modeselektor etc (I own ‘hello mom!’) and it’s not as if I haven’t head most of those artists. If your trying to namedrop to, whatever that’s fine. I don’t listen to anything on rephlex, it would be nice if they were a bit more diverse to be honest. I didn’t say that I've never heard more minimal electronic music, just trying to say that it can be a lot harder to do well than a lot of falsely complex ape shit drum programming. |
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i gave flashbulb another try today, and i still think it's kind of shit. I can't help but feel like listening to some kid pulled off the netlabel scene trying too hard to be 'the shit'. |
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