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what a piss of shit. finally got around to updating to 4.0 (reasons being the modular synth and so i could send tracks back and forth with friends who also have version 4, as tracks made/opened in 4 won't open in 3). it's fucken terrible! they tried to improve the sequencer, but they made a mess out of it. everything takes an extra click or two, and everything feels so limited now that you can't sequence outside of those drawn in areas (that are.. for some reason, absolutely necessary to draw/record anything). the worst thing is, i would give anything to go back to version 3, except i've opened most of my songs in reason 4 and none of them will work in reason 3 anymore. fucken! cock! ass! hell! |
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the sequencer's a bit fucking weird, yeah that whole dark/light shit, what's going on there |
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lol, piece* of shit. |
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Reason's always been awful. |
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i could see this coming. but there's still bound to be some reason users who'll at least agree/disagree with what im actually saying. |
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Thanks for letting me know, I'll just stick with 3.0 then. And uhm, no, Reason hasn't always been awful. |
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yeah it is a bit harder to keep a good work flow going, but it's worth it with the new arp and thor. Finally with thor reason sounds more professional. |
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past versions of almost everything are better than their present form |
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ooh, never played with this arpeggiator before. it's good fun! |
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The only annoying part is that new areas which are drawn when you record, but I got used to it quite quickly. The sequencer for the most part is vastly improved from before. The automation lanes are now perfect and thank fuck we can finally make multiple note lanes on a single device. Thor is absolutely incredible, the arp rocks and the whole thing is just a pleasure to use. No hate from me! |
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: ) sooo, there's hope i will still get used to it after all! but seriously! you could have multiple note lanes in reason 3 and im still not enjoying the new sequencer! |
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I didn't find any problems, I just had a fiddle around and it is was fine. All it'll need is a little time. |
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Between the ultrathin sound of most of the generators, the lack of vsti support and the fact that the width is small and not expandable made me change from reason to fl to ableton, and lemme tell ya, ableton is like 1000x better and more professional |
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Ableton Live is the shiznit. It's my new found love. You can still use Re-wire to use reason tho. I think the ideal thing would be to have both pro-tools and ableton, and if you still like reason, you can use it with both of those. |
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I sometimes rewire reason into live. I have to say though I have mainly been using reason as an effects box more than anything else. However I really like thor, I can see myself getting some good sounds out of it. |
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I used to swear to Fruityloops, and defend at any chance possible, because i've seen people make some pretty amazing things with it (Khonnors whole album for example, and my own stuff even) But i must say, Ableton blev me completely away. It took me 2 (intense) days to learn it, and it's just so good. It's great for IDM'ish things, but it also fits my needs perfectly (And i make electronic driven pop music with guitars!) It comes down to the details of the program... I just really like the feel of it. It's super logical to use. The basics are easy, but theres so much room to experiment. I'm in love... Reason never made me shit my pants with enjoyment. But i didnt give it the biggest of chances, i must admit. |
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Reason works for me. I find it very intuitive. Live is awesome as well though. I really do need to spend some more time with it to get the best out of it. |
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Maybe i should give it another shot. Do you have some tracks somewhere with heavy reason usage? |
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These were all created either exclusively in Reason 2.5, others were made using it in create sounds that were sequenced in other programs. |
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Generally speaking and no offense to anyone, but if you think Reason sounds like shit ...chances are you're basing your experience on an eariler version (with v3 and the combinator everything changed) and/or you might juat not be that great at producing. Reason 4 is absolutely amazing. I applaud Props for not going the VST route, as everyone else has. By considering Reason as a modular synth and using it in none timeline sort of ways, I've been able to do MUCH more interesting stuff than I could ever do with a "blank canvas" DAW like Live. Dont get me wrong, they all have their strong suits, but often the criticisms of Reason are shot from the hip IMHO. |
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Yeah, the whole "reason sounds thin" argument was pretty much put to waste after 3.0. Personally, I rarely use the mastering tools within reason (except a maximiser linked to the line mixer and the eq's of course) and do it all externally, but you can still get some seriously lush sounds if you know what you're doing. |
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Absolutely, and all it takes is a little time. |
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I did actually use an older version, now that i think of it! |
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Well, I used reason from 1.0 to 2.5 iirc. I had a lot of fun with reason, especially in the beginning, but ableton live really is just more for me no matter how good v4 is now.. I made a song in reason 4 though for the first time in years, was ok. gl0tch that track rocks btw ;) |
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Ok, i must admit i'm surprised how good it sounds. You make good music! |
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Haha this is so good :D I love it actually. |
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Thankyou very much. : ) |
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If anyone should be interested, heres some music made exclusively in fruityloops (with lots of self made samples, and odd VST's tho) |
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I shall have a listen to them later. As you might be aware I have shit loads of stuff to listen to at the moment. |
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Ah yeah :D |
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Thanks very much CX, truth be told I did end up cleaning up another version of this track in Live. I'll try to put that up sometime later today. |
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Hmm yeah, mind I always thought that I was in a minority, everyone around me loves reason and I'm the only one that thinks "WTF? No surely Ableton Live?" |
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its hard to get rid of reason if you started with it |
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How come none of you can make a track that is memorable for more than one second? What are you trying to achieve exactly? I'm not being critical, just curious. |
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you can't resist a shamless oppertunity to plug your own noodling can, you? |
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Not sure what you are basing that on, considering you're probably not listening to people's track for more than one second or one minute anyways. I uploaded the previous track moments ago and you responded in shorter time than the duration of the track itself, which means you didnt listen to the whole thing. It's no big deal, you're welcome to your own opinion. However, I'd encourage you to share with us something that is, as you say, memorable for more than one second. |
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You're a fucking retard, if you read the whole thread you'd see that someone requested songs that people did in Reason. And again, you can't resist the opportunity to insult me because, well, frankly at this point I am certain there is nothing about you worth sharing or talking about. |
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pull your head out your arsehole mate |
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it's gonna bite him back one day |
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Have they fixed the problem with wav rendering sounding different to the live playing sound in reason 4? I've used reason 2 and that still had the weird flat rendering sound. |
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Well, I am all for progressing as I go. I will get there in the end. There are plenty of people who like my music. So I will keep working for those people who like my music. Maybe one day you might even like some of it too. : ) |
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Yeah, that totally makes sense. Way to go! It's a shame how well you play the role of the bitter and jaded Brit. I know several people like you. You're a dime a dozen. I can't count the amount of times a British friend will admit his inability to understand how people in the states are able to get excited about other people's progress and success. They just can't grasp being able to look on the bright side, to be able to actually care beyond themself. I'm confused, is this a cultural thing? For you specifically, it says a lot about the general negativity and self loathing you suffer. It's very sad. Please continue talking your baseless shit. You'll never be able to back it up. |
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Please enlighten me, considering how Xltronic is at the center of the universe. |
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people like you are the bellends who making whooping noises on chat shows. |
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come on people. PEACE LOVE AND HAPPINESS. smile. |
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Its funny how you go out and try to insult me directly for no reason, in every thread I participate in. Then, when I outline your baseless reasoning and complete lack of credibility, you go and continue to prove me right with every off-center remark you aimlessly throw out. Grow up. Share something worthwhile or stfu. |
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nyamamamamamann:Pppppppppppppppppfffffffffffftttttttttttttt ttt you sir, cannot see the woods for trees and its very, very amusing :) |
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come on people. PEACE LOVE AND HAPPINESS. |
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