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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-16 20:22 [#02155074]
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Well, I don't consider myself THAT sensitive, but that film was horrendous! I feel sick.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2007-12-16 20:26 [#02155075]
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More--than this!
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-12-17 00:34 [#02155089]
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lol 4chan
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-12-17 02:53 [#02155102]
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subject matter: horrendous the movie itself: great
saw it in the theaters. The camerawork was intense on such a large screen.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2007-12-17 05:18 [#02155121]
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I can imagine. It was intense enough on my screen at home. I am not sure if i could watch the film again. It is a great film however.
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melack
from barcielwave on 2007-12-17 06:44 [#02155129]
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yeah, same here : fucking great film (as concept) i will never watch again...
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-17 07:05 [#02155132]
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Oh, the film was brilliantly shot and it was beautiful in its own, I agree, but I just couldn't really handle the first half too well.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-17 07:07 [#02155133]
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*its own way
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SPD
from United States on 2007-12-17 07:15 [#02155134]
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i've got this rule. if i can't watch it again, it wasn't a great film.
art can be 100% pure and unadulterated in any way, be it beautiful or horrific but that doesn't make it great.
about Irreversible i can't really say cause i haven't seen the thing.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2007-12-17 07:27 [#02155139]
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Haven't seen it, and I don't think I will. It's the film with the 15 min rape-scene, right? A girl I know actually invited a guy to this film on their first date! She had no clue what it was about. She just knew it was a french movie that had a lots of good reviews, and what can be better on a first date, right?
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-12-17 07:29 [#02155140]
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normally i apply the same rule, but this movie is an exception.
i could watch it again, but i don't really feel the need for it.
It wasn't great because it was horrific. It was great because of the cinematography, the acting and the message it delivered.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-12-17 07:54 [#02155146]
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It is a good film. The camerawork is fantastic (the scene in rectum in particular.... incredibly disorientating, but it totally fits the mood of that scene), the soundtrack is really good, and it doesn't hold back on the issues it addresses. The bittersweet "ending/beginning" was also cool.
The ultraviolence is what sticks in most peoples mind for obvious reasons, but theres more to the film than that.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2007-12-17 09:48 [#02155173]
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it's like the 20th thread about this movie here... give it a rest already
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-12-17 10:12 [#02155176]
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2007-12-17 10:20 [#02155179]
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Good film, albeit a bit too soft. Could have done with a more detailed and expanded rape scene. Also there should have been more death scenes like the one in the 'rectum'. All in all it left me in a cheerful mood.
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2007-12-17 10:41 [#02155183]
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irreversible is full of love http://www.blogdecine.com/images/2006/11/bellucci_scarmacio .jpg
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freqy
on 2007-12-17 11:17 [#02155194]
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x - tomatic why are you a puppy on stick!!??? hahahaa so funny.
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OK
on 2007-12-17 13:54 [#02155242]
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It's a very bad movie.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-17 14:02 [#02155246]
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yes brisk! yes! gaspar noe does something out of the ordinary, you should mentally prepare yourself for irreversible by seeing his first feature length I Stand Alone - then you will really understand what kind of film making it is. a film that can provoke heavy feelings and frighten beyond the shock-suspense is in my eyes worth giving a shot. fact is, irreversible is incredibly well made, allthought not suitable for everyone.
the first 15 minutes of the film uses a frequencial distortion which appearantly induces nausea and discomfort, interesting little side note.
as for the violence, its all camera work and effects. the rape scene caused some serious discomfort and the next few times i watched the movie, i skipped that part. not because its something im directly afraid of watching, but because the "shock" effect is gone now and now its just moderate discomfort.
also, bellucci is fucking hot!
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RussellDust
on 2007-12-17 15:08 [#02155271]
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Irreversible and Requiem for a dream are 2 of the shittiest films i've ever seen, utterly lazy poncical wanktoss.. I put the two together as both seem to attract people i like.
I used to quite fancy Belluci when she was a model way back when, can't stand her anymore though. I liked her cocksucker of a husband in La Haine but it stops there.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2007-12-17 15:29 [#02155280]
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requiem for a dream is fucking awful but irreversible wasn't that bad, i just don't think it's anywhere near as "deep" as everyone makes out. like, look past all that rapey fire extinguisher biz, man, it's a comment on like, relationships and emotion and human nature and stuff... no, it's just a gripping but very ugly story with a lot of gimmicky camerawork. but that's alright, i guess. wouldn't be arsed to see it again though...
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-17 15:33 [#02155283]
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i wonder what kind of movies you like? do you even like movies?
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SPD
from United States on 2007-12-17 16:44 [#02155304]
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doh! Requiem, yeah what a waste.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-17 16:45 [#02155305]
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what is it exactly about requiem for a dream that is so bad?
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melack
from barcielwave on 2007-12-17 17:01 [#02155307]
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requiem for a dream is an empty film, i think, lots of noise (and the fucking music all the time), and spectacular images (sex drugs and degeneration) but a poor history inside... imo
i loved it the first time i watched it, but on the second time, i found it a bit superficial
some orginal images and editing, tho
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-12-17 17:28 [#02155316]
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yes
Besides, I really like Gaspar Noé because he's so crass while trying to be profound. This might sound bad but it makes for some unique films.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2007-12-17 17:39 [#02155323]
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just popping in to defend Requiem, but too lazy to come up with any arguments
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-12-17 17:49 [#02155328]
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that's because inside you know you hate it
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2007-12-17 18:29 [#02155334]
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i don't like many of its preachy aspects, but it's good theater, with some very powerful scenes and a wonderful performance by Mrs. Burstyn. In general, I don't judge a film on any other ground than aesthetics. Thus, I can appreciate Leni Riefenstahl's work, for example. Didn't particularly like irreversible though.
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RussellDust
on 2007-12-17 21:30 [#02155347]
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*sigh* No i hate movies etc..
you were joking right, nobbler?
In irreversible i did find the rectum scene a tad cringe worthy but the most horrrendous bit for me was not the rape but watching that cocking shitwank of a couple cack about on the bed for 15 minutes.
I've heard people praise Irreversible without even realising that it wasn't the tenia that Dupontel bashes with the extinguisher..
I don't detest Noé though, unlike Darren Aronosfky who is top rubbish.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2007-12-18 01:01 [#02155361]
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Can someone explain what this rectum scene is?
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Resident Evil
from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2007-12-18 06:34 [#02155418]
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It's been a few years, but from memory:
near the beginning of the film, the Rectum is a gay S&M club, in which two men (the boyfriend and ex-boyfriend/husband?) of bellucci are told her rapist is at. They walk around the labyrinth of the club looking for her rapist. They eventually find a guy they think is the rapist, confront him and from memory he tries to rape one of them, one of their arms is broken, then his friend bashes the alleged rapist in the head with the bottom of a fire extinguisher multiple times until his head is essentially red goo. End scene.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-18 08:20 [#02155432]
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Has anyone here been to a gay S&M club?
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SPD
from United States on 2007-12-18 08:47 [#02155440]
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the Sam Raimi close up quick edit transitions is what inevitably killed it for me, not that it wasn't a combination of things including characters i couldn't have given a fuck less about.
transitions like that have done so much better in comedies or Guy Ritchie movies.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2007-12-18 16:50 [#02155561]
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Requiem for a Dream is great. i've never felt so assaulted by a film. it was too good in that respect i think. I'll probably never watch it again because of it.
and Ellen Bursten should have won that oscar, not julia fucking roberts.
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-18 17:06 [#02155564]
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i like the black guy that says ASS TO ASS lol
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2007-12-18 17:36 [#02155569]
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my spelling pisses all over your spelling; it's 'Burstyn'
but good call there, i agree that Julia needs to be de-Oscared (preferably violently)
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2007-12-18 17:59 [#02155578]
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i say that, but i'm half yellow
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