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offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-16 04:21 [#02154845]
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yes it is!


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2007-12-16 04:24 [#02154849]
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i thought that for the 1st hour. 2nd hour is pure shit.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-12-16 04:25 [#02154852]
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depends on which starwars. some starwars episodes are pure
shit as well.


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2007-12-16 04:27 [#02154854]
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Where's a Jar-Jar Binks ascii when you need one?


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-12-16 04:29 [#02154857]
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jar-jar is a good reason for dune being better. a very good
reason.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-12-16 04:31 [#02154859]
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Oh all you 20-30 somethings.....


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2007-12-16 04:37 [#02154861]
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and what are you, 40?


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-12-16 04:38 [#02154862]
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13 almost 14 in March


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-12-16 04:39 [#02154863]
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he's like the last highlander


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2007-12-16 05:02 [#02154865]
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The Dune film is pretty bad, mainly due to the brutal edit
in the cutting room. It's pretty obvious they removed
massive chunks from about half way onwards.

I've read all 6 of the original Dune books (I've not
bothered with the rip off prequels done by other people).
The books are a fantastic read. The only thing comparable
with it is LOTR.

I would recommend anyone here to get the first book, Dune
By Frank Herbert and read it. It may not be easy going, but
it is brilliant. (There's an appendix with all the dune
words, traditions, culture, planets, maps, etc)

If you make it through to book 5, Heretics of Dune (I
think), then well done. Book 5 was probably the most
enjoyable book I've ever read.

When I was a kid I had the Empire Strikes Back picture book,
where they had stills from the film with captions and a
small summary. Compared to Dune this was crap.
However, Carrie Fisher makes me go shwing!

Oh and in the film where they show the scale of the guild
highliner, starwars just cannot compete with its deathstar
imo.

Ultimately I think starwars is for children and Dune is for
adults.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2007-12-16 05:18 [#02154867]
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I love Lynch, but Dune is probably his shoddiest work. It
just seems unfinished and poorly put together in places. I
know it's not his fault, he was forced to make massive cuts
on it by the studio.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2007-12-16 05:31 [#02154871]
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Dune is wack!


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-16 05:40 [#02154876]
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Dune is unfortunately cut to shreds in the second half...
but i still love it, and its still better than star wars, oh
how i would love to see a proper directors extended cut! The
sets and costumes in Dune are stunning and I don't think the
look of it has dated as badly as star wars.

I love the intro with princess Irulan (sp?), she's beautiful
too, can you believe its the same actress who's in
Sideways.

And the book Dune is awesome, i'm hoping to get the next two
books for christmas, how do these compare?


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2007-12-16 06:21 [#02154879]
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Probably not quite as good as the first book. They're still
good, but perhaps not as good. Book 4 I found to pretty hard
going, but book 5 is just great. I think you will enjoy them
slightly less from 1-2-3, then 4 has too much padding with
quasi religious mumbo jumbo (I guess it needs it to set the
atmosphere) makes it quite poor compared to 1, then book 5
more than makes up for it. book 6 is quite good but you get
the feeling there needs to be something after it to wrap it
all up. I think he had plans but died before he could write
a draft.
I think overall the original series is well worth reading,
basically because books 1 and 5 are so amazing and the
others a pretty good too.


 

offline SPD from United States on 2007-12-16 07:01 [#02154883]
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LOL.

pick any droid, and that is better than Dune.


 

offline freqy on 2007-12-16 07:21 [#02154886]
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There is no such thing as 'better' or 'the best' when it
comes to art., its how a piece connects with a particular
observer at a particular moment ..Thats like saying "today
,green is better than blue in the eyes of all people."

having said that, i'll say this.... "Star wars 'A new hope'
is better than any other film in the entire galaxy in the
eyes of all people. "



 

offline Sano on 2007-12-16 07:42 [#02154894]
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I love the movie Dune, no critics, you really have to have a
mind set that is up for it because the style is pretty
strong.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-12-16 08:50 [#02154908]
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star wars fans are the worst kind of people

"pick any droid, and that is better than Dune." hahah to
much :)


 

offline freqy on 2007-12-16 09:02 [#02154913]
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'a new hope' is a master piece, go screw your pencil
sharpener.



 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-12-16 09:05 [#02154916]
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long winter nights, just started to watch that one
yesterday, watching them I, II, III, IV, V, VI in order.


 

offline Sano on 2007-12-16 09:40 [#02154926]
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The only StarWars movie that's bearable to watch is The
Empire Strikes Back and you know it.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2007-12-16 10:41 [#02154938]
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Not the film, but the books, yeah.


 

offline OK on 2007-12-16 15:17 [#02155017]
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considering that star wars is awful... probably.


 

offline Babaouo from Dolce (Monaco) on 2007-12-16 20:46 [#02155076]
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I really wish Lynch didnt throw out the designs and ideas of
moebius and H.R. Giger.

THEN it would have def. been better than Star wars



 

offline retape from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2007-12-17 04:13 [#02155112]
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no. :)


 

offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2007-12-17 04:36 [#02155117]
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mm haven't read the books... star wars is a very successful
and resonant film series, i think it managed to capture
something of the spirit of the 70s and combine them with
some old religious ideas... i like dune as a film, but it's
a horrible editing jumble.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2007-12-17 05:21 [#02155122]
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Both sets of films are well boring. But The Phantom
Menace
is so terrible that Dune wins by T.K.O.

I reaaaaaaaaaaaaalllly hope they re-edit / re-SFX
Episodes I and II of Star Wars (get rid of Binks!) so
they don't stink quite so much.


 

offline Sano on 2007-12-17 09:39 [#02155168]
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The original director was going to be Alejandro Jodorowsky
but the project was then moved to Lynch and therefor the
concepts from Jodo (Moebius and Giger) weren't used because
they were two different projects.

Giger concepts for Dune were out of this world, I don't know
how back then they could have made it work, if the movie was
made in late 80's it would'va been the perfect time imo.

I like the style they went with so it's not a bother to me.


 

offline oyvinto on 2007-12-17 09:50 [#02155175]
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dune >>>>>>>>> star wars


 

offline Vin3islih from United Kingdom on 2007-12-17 12:39 [#02155220]
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Did you know Ridley Scott was going to make Dune, but got
pulled off to Blade Runner. It would have been a thing to
marvel however we would have no Ridley 'Blade Runner'.


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2007-12-17 12:50 [#02155222]
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You do notice that for the first half the movie follows the
book almost line for line, and then half way through starts
skipping huge chunks.

Some of Paul's voice over thoughts are kinda bad. You just
cannot adapt a book to a movie in such a literal way. In a
book, showing the character's thoughts in print works just
fine, but once it is in film you have to find more subtle
ways of showing what he/she is thinking. The more
non-verbal the better really.


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2007-12-17 13:41 [#02155235]
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I vote Dune, but I think to appreciate the movie more if you
read the book. A friend of mine bought me the extended DVD,
but I havn't had chance to watch it yet.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-12-17 14:05 [#02155248]
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dune sucked. i dont even want to elaborate, since this
should be obvious to anyone.


 

offline freqy on 2007-12-17 14:41 [#02155263]
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its like asking whats better? East enders or star trek??



 

offline freqy on 2007-12-17 14:42 [#02155264]
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TOS, i might add.


 

offline Barf Simpleton from the outback (Zimbabwe) on 2007-12-17 15:58 [#02155289]
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TOSS = DUNE (+ 7 % 3 X 4) =

STAR WARS (FIRST 2 FILMS) + $EQUELS =

INVERTED TOSS OF THE HIGHEST MAGNITUDE


 

offline Babaouo from Dolce (Monaco) on 2007-12-17 16:02 [#02155290]
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LAZY_Dune



 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2007-12-17 16:26 [#02155297]
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maybe some of you guys are not sci fi fans?


 


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