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Yo, what are your opinions about this G.O.P. candidate. He seems like an intelligent Republican, however oxymoronic that may seem, hyuck hyuck. |
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cunt |
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Would you care to expound? I've only just started looking into him after hearing his name bandied about. |
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I fucking hate him and most everything he stands for |
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i agree with him on many issues, but he's a one-trick pony if you know what I mean - cut down on government, that's it... |
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Ah, so I should expect to hear darker things about him as I learn more about him? |
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I've always thought it's wrong to pull back out of iraq. The reasons for going there were absolutely deplorable and now the US need to fix the mess they've made. This has been my opinion for the last two years and I don't see a reason to change it now. In fact tt's pretty peaceful now in Iraq because of the extra troops the US has stationed there. That's good. Maybe eventually (after 10, 20 years) Iraq will actually adopt democracy. |
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He's just your standard libertarian. He's like Thatcher or Regan only a thousand times worse. Every man for himself, show no compassion, privatise everything. |
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There. We gave you your opinion marlowe |
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thanks - now that these onions are mine, I shall spout them at every opportunity. |
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w00t |
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OK, now you get to fuck, you Dutch cap. |
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everything will be ok once we take care of iran |
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everything will be ok once we take care of syria |
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its really pretty hopeless. |
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lol wots a cap? |
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He's IDM as fuck. |
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I can see why comparing him with Reagan makes him sound terrible, but there are crucial differences. I'm not saying I agree with him on everything, but one shouldn't lump everybody who calls himself libertarian in the same bag. Reagan, we should remember, was only a libertarian to the degree it suited him. He was really a warmonger, as was Thatcher (remember Nicaragua and the Falklands?). Furthermore, Reagan hated, virulently, free speech and people's private lifestyle choices when he thought them offensive or un-Christian. Also, he was big on Defense and Military, and really funneled money from one department to another. Unlike both Reagan and Thatcher, Ron Paul does not support wars of any kind, including the so-called war on drugs. He does not support corporate welfare and privileges, nor curtailing the rights of assembly or speech - again, unlike Reagan and Thatcher. At least Paul, then, is more honest and less of a liar and a hypocrite. It also makes him easier to refute on points. That said, he would be a catastrophic president in many ways, because the whole current system would either decay or revolt. But who knows what the real-life consequences would be; certainly the current course of action doesn't seem to brilliant either. |
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he has two first names for his name |
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i'd rather have dennis kucinich. |
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one night or life? |
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GREAT question. i'd try it for a night and if i liked it, go life. |
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me too. boxbob - good post, you're absolutely right. to clarify - i was speaking really about his economic positions, which I abhor. |
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Ron Paul will be getting my vote in the primaries. I don't expect him to get far but at least I'll have voted for a candidate that I agree with on almost every issue. And from here on out I'd love to see the Republican Party get more libertarian candidates! That's what the party used to be about anyway, more personal freedom, more personal accountability, and less government. The new Neo-Conservative big spenders are the just like the democrats but worse, because of their willingness to impose their evangelical beliefs on the nation as a whole. Ron Paul is honest and cares about the issues (like Nader and even Gore to a lesser extent) rather than the power (think Hillary and Guiliani), and that's really the most important thing from a candidate, for me. |
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I like Kucinich because he has seen the space brothers. Also his wife is so hot. |
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I'm voting for him as well. |
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pwn |
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While it might seem fun to have a president who goes around insulting people for no reason, we've already got that in France and it's really fucking tiring and offensive. |
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Unfortunately I believe that was an isolated incident, usually he seems very polite, if a little emotionless. I would love to have a president that just dished 'em out and didn't fuck around at all with the "politically correct" way of doing things. Then again I'm not the easily offended sort. |
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You must be mightily pleased with the current administration's gall then, yes? |
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That wasn't being un-PC, there. It was being a dick. Anyway how do you figure the lower classes would fare under a complete free-market economy? Will they get a kick in the arse and start their own businesses? |
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The destruction of social security and welfare would be a great incentive for it, quite obviously |
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haha, Bush's "Gall" is so poor that it always backfires and make him look like the idiot. But yeah, if I was forced into picking a favorite characteristic of George W. Bush, it would be his attempts at playful jabs and nicknames at inappropriate times. |
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Privately funded social programs would become far more mainstream, and from there everyone would be accountable for their own fortunes. Some good proposals . |
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(followup to dariusgriffin a few posts up) |
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libertarians are so fucking stupid, to think that we actually live in a "welfare state!" do they even know what welfare means?? i think they think it means food stamps, gahhh. |
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Libertarianism is basically the Marxism of the Right. If Marxism is the delusion that one can run society purely on altruism and collectivism, then libertarianism is the mirror-image delusion that one can run it purely on selfishness and individualism. Society in fact requires both individualism and collectivism, both selfishness and altruism, to function. Like Marxism, libertarianism offers the fraudulent intellectual security of a complete a priori account of the political good without the effort of empirical investigation. Like Marxism, it aspires, overtly or covertly, to reduce social life to economics. And like Marxism, it has its historical myths and a genius for making its followers feel like an elect unbound by the moral rules of their society. |
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Is that to be included in your next stand-up set, Eddie? |
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THEY CUT THAT SHIT OUT OF RAW |
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haha |
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tee-hee: maybe they should have cut out the anti-faggotry schtick from your stand-up, too |
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internet people voted him of the (just the republican debate i assume) |
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no, libertarianism is the anarchism of the right objectivism is the marxism of the right |
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libertarianism is an ideology, and like all ideologies it doesn't work in practice, especially when mixed with economy. economic policy shouldn't be based on ideology, ever. but it would be nice that, for once, the US practice what they impose on other countries. go ron paul! |
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A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for legalizeing weed, do it! |
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NAH SON, THEY AINT NO ANARCHISTS THEY STILL BELIEVE IN MONEY AND CONTRACT LAWS AND SHIT MARXISTS BE LIKE "BOO HOO, MONEY" LIBERTARIANS BE LIKE "BOO HOO, THE STATE" |
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it's hard to know which "eddie" i'm addressing... anyway, true libertarians would not believe even in minimal state regulations, which means they would not believe in government-backed money or contract laws either... Ron Paul believes in the gold standard, which is a bit silly too... you'll find that ideologically "pure" libertarians could call themselves anarchists if it were only politically admissible... i know people who call themselves anarcho-capitalists, which is pretty much just another term for right-libertarian... most mainstream libertarians, of course, would want some form of minimal government to protect their private little fortunes and property laws, but that's just because they're scared of the poor... deep down they know that inequality is what they both desire and fear |
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libertarians believe the state should (only) guarantee internal and external security, that means protecting the life and private property of the people, that the state should also administer justice and provide key infrastructure vital to the economy. That's far from being anarchism, the administer justice thing for starters. They believe in a state of law. Also somewhere along the line they mixed this beliefs with economy resulting in the absurd idea that the state shouldn't intervene in anything in the economy except for the reasons quoted above. but they also believe in a state of law so government regulation is obligatory. |
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You're confusing Minarchism and Libertarianism. Some Libertarians are Minarchists, some Anarchists; some Libertarians believe in a minimal state, some believe in no state. Both views are debated in the community. I don't think it's pedantic to say that we need to differentiate between the Libertarian Party and the political philosophy of Libertarianism. Libertarianism simply means "ideology of freedom"; by no means is Minarchism (the believe in a minimal government) the necessary consequence of this. In fact, many libertarians believe that only PRIVATE contracts and PRIVATE right-enforcement networks are appropriate (like if your neighbour fucks you over in an agreement, you can enforce the contract by yourself, or hire someone to enforce it for you). This means law/contract/agreement between consenting parties, not between the parties under state supervision. Like when you borrow your friend your Aphex Twin CD, it's up to you to make sure you get it back, not to call the FBI. I'm just paraphrasing common libertarian rhetoric. The idea that "state should administer justice" is not an opinion universally shared by libertarians, although, granted, it is the PC face of most "capital L" Libertarian parties. The radical positions, as is to be expected, get filtered out in party politics. That is why there can never be an anarchist party, either of the left or the right. |
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