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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2007-11-27 03:51 [#02148127]
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I like hamburgers.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-27 04:09 [#02148128]
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She should have known better and respected the country's religious adherence. I see the article mentions someone trying to defend it by saying it wasn't a pig or a dog, but they've missed the point entirely.
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PS
on 2007-11-27 04:21 [#02148129]
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I like how they had to include that candid shot of the bear.. But yeah, that was a pretty careless thing to do.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-11-27 04:25 [#02148130]
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"one teacher was angered" What a cunt.
I'm so glad to not live in a country so strict.
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2007-11-27 04:41 [#02148131]
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Surely it's the kids at fault, they called the fucking bear muhumous, what if she'd hanged all the kids as an example to others about the dangers of idolatry? She'd probably have been promoted.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-27 05:54 [#02148135]
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No, she should have explained why it would be improper to call the name Mohammed in that country--that would be teaching them.
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mimi
on 2007-11-27 05:57 [#02148137]
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not to mention every other dude is a muhammed in moslem countries, who could blame her.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-27 06:12 [#02148139]
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Maybe she should have done a little research before she went to the country & disrespected their customs.
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2007-11-27 06:27 [#02148144]
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Maybe the fucking kids should have noticed daddy getting twitchy and writing a shopping list with the items Parafin, Matches and selected European and US flags on it every time anyone not called Mohammed called something else Mohammed. Maybe they could have put two and two together and came up with 390 or whatever year it is they're living in.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-27 06:41 [#02148147]
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Let's demonise another culture because we're so fucking enlightened.
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PORICK
from fucking IRELAND on 2007-11-27 06:49 [#02148149]
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hahaha wonderful
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2007-11-27 08:18 [#02148169]
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Stupid religious cunts.
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mimi
on 2007-11-27 16:41 [#02148313]
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obviously the woman wasn't malicious, do you think their culture is not able to understand that or something? maybe it is you who has a low opinion of other cultures.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2007-11-27 16:52 [#02148315]
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A little more Diogenes is needed.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2007-11-27 16:54 [#02148319]
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What a stupid thing to do. She should get flogged when she gets back home for being stupid too. She should have known and avoided anything to do with Islam.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-27 16:55 [#02148320]
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It's a question of respect, not maliciousness. Instead of imposing herself on their culture, she should have been less ignorant of their culture and respected their customs. If she wasn't prepared to do so, she should have decided not to go there. Simple to understand.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2007-11-27 16:59 [#02148323]
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I'm not Moslem but I will gladly flog the idiot women, I will phone them now to see if they will let me.
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2007-11-27 16:59 [#02148324]
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The woman clearly set out to make Allan, or Mohammed Ali, or Buddha the Bear, whoever, the supreme being... she tried to make him look like a bloody idiot by letting some kids call a cuddly toy by one of his one million names. If she gets whipped to within an inch of her life SHE IS LUCKY and she should thank all religious people everywhere for giving normal people the chance to know what it's like to be mad.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2007-11-27 17:00 [#02148325]
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They said 'no'.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-11-27 17:04 [#02148328]
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How about hangin; faggots? Is that ok cause its their culture?
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2007-11-27 17:08 [#02148330]
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Are you one of those people that say 'Bring back hanging' and in the same breath say 'Hanging's too good for them'? Make up your mind.
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-11-27 17:19 [#02148332]
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The punishment should fit the crime. She should be forced to name one of her teddy bears "Jesus" in a public broadcast to the world.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-27 17:26 [#02148335]
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It's easy to be badly satirical about it, but I'm sure if you visited a Moslem country, you would not be so ignorant as to arrogantly disregard their religious beliefs, despite their apparent eccentricities. It's their country, it's their faith--don't go there and shit on their customs. It's really quite simple, however black you attempt to colour them.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2007-11-27 17:29 [#02148338]
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Is it Moslem or Muslim or is it my accent? I say Muslim normally.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2007-11-27 17:29 [#02148340]
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sorry but you should try telling that to a lot of people who come into the UK
white people are the minority here now. we have less rights. they have more.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-27 17:30 [#02148342]
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I think it was Moslem, but it's evolved to Muslim.
oscillik--stop reading The Daily Mail / The Daily Express.
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2007-11-27 17:31 [#02148343]
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I don't know if it is "their" faith, was National Socialism Germany's "culture" or something enforced upon them?
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-11-27 17:34 [#02148344]
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My mate said to me before... "I didn't realise the Paki's were in Sudan now"
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2007-11-27 17:34 [#02148345]
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i don't read newspapers i don't watch TV
thank you for making assumptions
:)
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2007-11-27 17:35 [#02148346]
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awesome :)
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2007-11-27 17:39 [#02148347]
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i am usually inclined to agree with this idea, but you know islam has been culturally perverted into a lot of hardened dogmas that are not an inate part of the text and religion ostensibly at the centre.
i am not an expert on this, but i have had people more knowledgable on the matter than i claim, for example, that it is not an inherent rule that women need to have their head covered, but rather a particular interpretation of the Koran. Obviously one has to pick one's battles, but the proportions of the act and punishment in this case are not beyond the scrutiny of others, imo.
maybe to do so is to nonetheless disrespect the "living part" (practice) of large chunks of many moslem societies... i don't have a good response for that kind of complication but... all the same...
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-11-27 17:40 [#02148348]
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This doesn't change the fact that you sounded quite racist.
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-11-27 17:41 [#02148349]
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If it was an honest mistake then I think a quiet word would have sufficed.
Sometimes I think these things are dealt with the way they are just so the locals have another excuse to squeeze off a few rounds from their AK47's.
Irresponsible Mohammed Usage Protest 2007 - sponsored by Kalashnikov, the automatic you can trust.
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-11-27 17:41 [#02148350]
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You tell him froggy.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2007-11-27 17:43 [#02148351]
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how does me saying that i feel as though my rights as a british person are being eroded by people who are not from this country come across as racist?
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-11-27 17:45 [#02148352]
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In what way are your rights being erroded by people who are not from this country?
Who are the ones passing the laws that determine your rights?
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-11-27 17:47 [#02148353]
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By the way I love Fabien like he was one of my own children.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-27 17:48 [#02148355]
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Hitler was voted in. I'm pretty sure that the Sudan hasn't invaded Poland recently.
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2007-11-27 17:49 [#02148356]
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You're an apologist for corporal punishment meted out against crimes of heresy and therefore you belong in the middle ages along with your lute or whatever instrument it is you still have yet to master.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-11-27 17:49 [#02148357]
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You were talking about white people, not british citizens. You also referred to white people as "we".
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-11-27 17:51 [#02148358]
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He wasn't exactly voted in by the majority.
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2007-11-27 17:51 [#02148359]
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I don't think Hitler was voted in under the promise of going to war against everybody and killing millions ofhis own people, that came after. He probably said he'd tidy up the streets and get the trains going, sure.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-11-27 17:52 [#02148360]
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hello and thank you you are a beautiful person
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-27 17:53 [#02148361]
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I'm not an apologist and I'm anti-corporal punishment: I may not agree with their customs, but I'm not going to try and impose my will upon them--that's the Colonial Attitude and the reason half of the world despises the West.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-27 17:53 [#02148362]
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Oh--nice opportunity to try and get a little personal jibe in: you've certainly developed out of your own Dark Age.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2007-11-27 17:54 [#02148363]
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it's disingenuous to insinuate that Nazism was something imposed on the german people. they voted for it, and they sustained the direction it took. (they not meaning everyone, but not meaning some mystical minority either
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2007-11-27 17:55 [#02148364]
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Whilst we argue on the messageboards about God, Culture, Right and Wrong, and Nazis, the youth of France, that seat of activism, have taken to the streets and have knacked scores of coppers, after some young people were unjustifiably run over having run into the path of a speeding car.
Are we irrelevant? Should we too be holed up in council flats taking pot shots at rozzers? Should that be an option for XLT v2?
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-11-27 17:56 [#02148365]
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Really what annoys me here is that skynews is obviously reporting this because the woman's a british citizen. I'm not sure they would have even bothered had it been a random sudanese.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2007-11-27 17:58 [#02148368]
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colonialism and post-colonialism and so on: just about the messiest topic ever.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-27 17:58 [#02148369]
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You'll not be surprised to know that right-wing "newspapers" such as The Daily Mail were screaming their headlines about this, as if the woman had been innocently minding her own business when some maniacal towel-heads plucked her from the streets and cut her cunt off because their Mooslem religion hates freedom.
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