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Fox News are reporting it in America too. This is another one of those white christian supremacy vs. muslim savagery. Sickening how covertly racist the media is really. |
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I don't know if that's true, the Sky news page linked at the top of this thread says "A school teacher from Liverpool is facing 40 lashes in Sudan after insulting Islam's prophet by letting children name a teddy bear Mohammed. reported there as fact, she Insulted Islam's Prophet, no questions asked, no quotation marks, ..she insulted Islam's prophet. Apparently. Or let some kids name a teddy bear that set off some highly politicised elements that may or may not like Brits teaching at the school. |
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fatwawawawawa |
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"The last officially recorded lynching in the United States occurred in 1968, though many consider the 1998 death of James Byrd in Jasper Texas, at the hands of three whites who hauled him behind their pick-up truck with a chain, a later instance." |
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Why are you addressing me? |
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we all know you were involved |
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Because you're an American Woman, two crimes for the price of one in the zealous eyes of Al Marlowe-Banjo |
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i'd pay for 40 lashes, i don't see why she should get it for free |
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moot point, |
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he looks pretty guilty to me |
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I'd quite like it if God looked like a big teddy bear, it'd be, you know, quite nice. |
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It was eventually funny. |
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thats the actual bear in question |
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Though I suspect he looks, and acts, like fucking Zippy. |
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Humanity goes to war over the name of a teddy bear. |
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Because of your "fatwawawawawa" comment. You're acting as if you belong to an enlightened society and feel quite morally justified in casting your condescension upon Islam. It's a reminder that your own country is hardly a bastion of liberalist thought. |
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well marlowe the only reason my family is even in this shitpit is because YOUR country thought it would be appropriate for zionists to bulldoze my dad's house that his family lived in for 900 years |
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do you even know any moslems? |
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I'm from Romany stock--I don't think the gypsies were doing much bulldozing, thanks. |
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Then i'm as much american as you are british. BTW my dad's middle name is muhammed LOL!!!! |
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Yes, I do, and I've visited the Middle East and found the people very friendly. And hey, guess what, before I went I took the time to get to know their customs and how to be careful not to offend its people. |
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I find it hard to believe that a presumptuous guy like you would ever take care not to offend people |
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I guess that's when you stopped being A Gay, for diplomatic reasons. |
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I'm not a Moslem--I couldn't care less if your dad's middle name was "Allah-Fucker" |
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I'm not a very presumptuous person--didn't you presume that my family had something to do with bulldozing your father's ancestral home or something ridiculous like that? Dan, are you saying that 100% of the time you are tactless and self-imposing? Are you like "the only gay in the village" or do you possess some actual wit behind your caustic mask? |
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Dan, are you saying that 100% of the time you are tactless and self-imposing? Yes Are you like "the only gay in the village" No or do you possess some actual wit behind your caustic mask? Dunno |
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i said "your country," just like you referred to my "own country." never did i make reference to your family. and it wasn't his "ancestral home" -- he lived there and was booted out in 1948, making him a refugee (courtesy of balfour). |
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900 years is pretty ancient, I would say. Also, Britain isn't "my" country--most of my family weren't in it in the 1940s & I feel no great attachment to it or its inhabitants. |
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Can I just note how moral relativism doesn't imply that you can't criticise anything? That it is indeed the very basis of moral and normative behaviour (behaviour directed at the future, or, rather, the "is-not") in the first place? Of course, this opens up the whole field of "how to criticise," which would, basically, amount to the same kind of conflict between different moral outlooks that the original position is based on, and one would be loathe to claim that the majority should hold powers of definition, as well as that the minority should, so it's not an easy question to answer, but still... criticism is one of the basic components of morality, whether it's relative or absolute. Merry Christmas! |
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I feel no great attachment to it or its inhabitants I'm sure the feeling's mutual. |
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LOL I ATTACH INHABITANTS!!!!!§| |
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Ooh, now I know why you loathe yourself so. |
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About your family, that's exactly the reason I would never normally have brought this up -- nation-states are so passé. But you were the one who reminded me that my "own country is hardly a bastion of liberalist thought." Of course, neither is yours, and in my eyes, that's hardly either of our faults. If you think that woman deserves what's coming to her, well that's fine, go ahead and think so. I disagree and it doesn't mean I look down on moslems or Islam (anymore than I do the presbyterian church my maternal grandparents are members of, anyway). |
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One of the reasons, dear, one of the reasons. |
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Bonobo chimpanzees have all kinds of gay male-male/ female-female sex which apparently evolved as a sort of social lubricant. |
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Yes, we're all guilty of presumptuousness at times, as we're all guilty of being hypocrites, it's true. My point was never whether I personally agreed with the punishment due to be meted out on this woman--I don't agree with corporal punishment, and, in regards to punishment in general, I believe in rehabilitation over lengthy incarceration. This woman did, however, go to another country and not bother to respect the major religious faith of that country--for that, she should receive no sympathy, and the newspapers should not use this as yet another excuse to scream their borderline racist headlines. I'm a bit tired of seeing the Islamic nations demonised so often, as if the West had somehow been given the keys to heaven and free licence to shit on those countries viewed as being barbaric, backwards, medieval etc. The West should not forget that its very recent past is littered with similar intolerances, and that it was from within that change happened. The West seems overly anxious to impose its template, and to me, that's contemptible and probably for morally corrupt purposes. I'm not directing that last paragraph at you as an accusation--more of a part-explanation of why I might get emotionally involved in the subject and thus lose some of my lucidity, lapsing into, as you noted, some presumption, for which I apologise. |
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this is awesome, you totally just admitted that you are presumptuous WIN |
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Actually, I didn't. I said, sometimes I slip into presumption, and that we are all guilty at times of presumptuousness, but I didn't say I am presumptuous. |
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let's not be pedantic |
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That was great. I never saw it before. |
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Maybe the British lady is a dirty Jew. That would make it better. |
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I don't think we know anything about how much the woman in question did or did not know about the religious customs of the country or of Islam in general. Are Teddy Bears part of the religious faith of the locals? Maybe she didn't even think of the Prophet, but rather any of the numerous Muhammeds in the class. You know, it's easier for kids to see themselves, to identify with, the teddy bear if it's called something generic, something like themselves. In England the Bear would have been called John or Joe or something. How offensive is that? Or then she did this as a conscious insult to Islam. We don't know. But I don't think we should take anybody's word for it, certainly not the presses', nor the embassy's, nor the local authorities' |
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But isn't the fuckin' bear already named Teddy? Or do bears have lots of names? Teddy Muhammed the Hustla Bear Johnson... |
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ONE HUNDRED |
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