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autechre is insanely overrated.
 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-06 16:10 [#00504118]
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... you're asking if the general consensus of everyone's
opinion on autechre's music is too positive (...too positive
for what)... I read negative comments about autechre often
(maybe about 1/2 negative and 1/2 positive) such as ones in
this thread. Overall the CONSENSUS is that their music is
average. So you're asking if ... average... is too high? Too
high for what? Maybe you mean to ask each individual
whether the consensus is too high or low in praise relative
to their own personal rating. If this is the case, I think
it's much much much much too low.. but when you take into
account the fact that most people are fart knockers, the
consensus seems more fitting.


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-01-06 16:12 [#00504119]
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Not THE best, but pretty fucking close if you ask me!


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-06 16:14 [#00504125]
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i think they are they best together with Aphex in IDM,
i couldn't think of some better artists in that type of
music..


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-06 16:16 [#00504127]
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who's the best in your opinion then fart knocker?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-06 16:17 [#00504131]
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well.. it just really irritates me when people say that what
ae does, is "random".

Iroel: sorry, thats all I have and as Frag said
"Generative music is really inaccessible, and
uninteresting
at that."
, I just wanted to show that ae's music isn't
generative by nature.


 

offline corngrower from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-01-06 16:23 [#00504143]
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It's really no coincidence that he said they are
inaccessible and uninteresting. It makes sence that those
who find their music inaccessible will find in uniteresting
as well, since it's actually very interesting if you take
the time to proberly access it.... or something.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-01-06 16:24 [#00504144]
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i hate confield, but they others are great =)


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-01-06 16:26 [#00504150]
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oh im a good speller today =(


 

offline CORTEX from Canada on 2003-01-06 16:28 [#00504154]
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but why is it some people (most) cant realize that if they
cant personally understand a particular type of music, the
music isnt necessarily inaccessible to everyone. same thing
if some artist's music doesnt interest you, it doesnt mean
that it's uninteresting.

i dont get how people seem to believe that their own
opinions are facts.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-06 16:35 [#00504168]
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What do you expect? all humans were children not too long
ago. I think god was created as a parent figure. We grew up
all that time trying to understand the world through the
organs attached to our own brain. It's amazing we can even
cast introspection in the direction of another person.
Without memory we couldn't learn anything. I don't like
socks.


 

offline corngrower from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-01-06 16:38 [#00504172]
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I also like socks. They are comfy and tend to keep my feet
warm.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-01-06 16:40 [#00504175]
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I love autechre...I dont care others opinions, I just love
listening to it...I enjoy, why worrying about what people
think if I have great time with their music?


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-01-06 16:56 [#00504200]
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autechre arent overrated at all end of story, i like
autechre more than aphex i think(which i do like a lot too)
but just because others like it mean you have to. it could
be that since you see others on this board like it that your
missing something but you could also just not like it as it
is. you could try listening to more of their releases to
see, its definately a style thats dfferent than most idm,
its harder to get into but I think youll appreciate it more
once you get used to their style. thats my thoughts.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-06 17:00 [#00504204]
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I love molesting young boys...I dont care others opinions, I
just love doing it...I enjoy, why worrying about what people
think if I have great time with them? I said I DON'T like
socks by the way.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-01-06 17:01 [#00504207]
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absolutely non valid comparison


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-06 17:17 [#00504237]
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whats with the anti-socks-stance, w M w..?


 

offline OK on 2003-01-06 21:51 [#00504486]
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i think autechre is really really really bad.

so anyone who thinks they're average is really really really
over rating them.

i mean i'm sure i 'get' their music... but their approach to
musi cis just stupid and a waste of music listening time..
they do too much to acomplish so little. and that 'too much'
distracts the listener in what's really important, so, some
listeners, see that 'too much' and think it's genius....
well it's not, it's just waste.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-06 21:56 [#00504490]
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I do not get what you are trying to say.

you sound very vague.


 

offline skyfarmer from a bigger, more complex and tun (Russia) on 2003-01-06 22:06 [#00504505]
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0. I was an AFX-only guy.

1. almost (almost!) EVERYONE progressing from young IDM
stages goes through this 'Ae's overrated' phase. I were like
you some time ago. I just listened and thought: what tha
crap, man?! I can throw a pile o'samples into a random
mixup, and then half-quantize it and put some uncatchable
lead under it all, it'd be no different... Then I made
myself listen to Ae through about 3 months, forcing
evolution. And finally... One day I realized: "this music is
something God gave to us to compensate the fact life is
shit" (c).

Give Ae some listens after a month or two, I tell you,
evolution is imminent.

And seeing the incomprehensible beauty of some of their
records, you'll have no choice but to agree with my theory
:)

PS they ARE higher than RDJ. He's kidding around, and
they... I don't know. Their music is so inhuman. Poor Sean
and Rob, they must be from some other place.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-01-06 22:08 [#00504508]
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different strokes from different folks

if you dont like ae you're missin out

but they aren't the only people puttin out good tunes.


 

offline skyfarmer from a bigger, more complex and tun (Russia) on 2003-01-06 22:21 [#00504519]
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cyg, yeah, they aren't the only, but unique in everything

and I used to dislike Confield. I would agree to any of you
Confield-haters back then. And now I see that half of it is
as precious as everything they've done before ep7. GG is
still EP7, remember it :)


 

offline OK on 2003-01-12 23:43 [#00512038]
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well, i had an "i like autechre phase".

then i realized that it was what i call "stupid music".


 

offline Mickey Mouse from The Moon on 2003-01-12 23:48 [#00512040]
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Spice up your life!

Word.

Woooozle Wooosie WEEEEEE!


 

offline grinningcat from london (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-13 02:00 [#00512107]
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i think all that shit about generative music is him talking
out of his ass....

same thing aphex used to do... music sounds like nothing
else, so try and make it look like it was made with some mad
method.....



 

offline oaksterdamg from Oakland (United States) on 2003-01-13 02:32 [#00512123]
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One really has to wonder why this topic is even here at all?


 

offline jockeaxelsson from norrtelje (Sweden) on 2003-01-13 02:41 [#00512126]
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frag is insanely overrated


 

offline Glitch from New Zealand on 2003-01-13 02:47 [#00512128]
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ok.. . stupid thread.. . its like a colour blind person
saying that a colour they cant see is overrated.. . I loved
Confield.. . but when I heard GG I thought "theyve finally
lost it" Dial sounded like utter shit to me.. . but it grew
on me.. . and then I discovered this.. .

http://www.mip.berkeley.edu/physics/G+50+05.html

I went looking into it after hearing a piece in dial that
seems to be going constantly upwards (its the constant
plodding piece.. . most prominent near the end of the track)
fucking amazing if you ask me.. . Autechre are actually
putting some thought into their new releases I think. ..



 

offline Fernz from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-13 03:30 [#00512151]
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Either you like them or you dont... no need to fight. ;)


 

offline dondog from munich (Germany) on 2003-01-13 03:52 [#00512199]
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nonono


 

offline nacmat on 2003-01-13 03:55 [#00512207]
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autechre overrated?? no way, they are just rated the way
people like them... I mean if people like them why shall
that be overrating?


 

offline nacmat on 2003-01-13 03:56 [#00512211]
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besides...not that many people like them... many criticise
them in this board as many love them...


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2003-01-13 06:45 [#00512407]
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yeah, it's called shepards tune or something. i made a
topic about this a long time ago


 

offline CORTEX from Canada on 2003-01-13 13:48 [#00512930]
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i think youve got a real good point there, but maybe a
little too generalized.

but that's why i stop arguing with anti-ae people, cause
most of em do start to enjoy their music in the end. this
situation isnt unique to ae either, and this is why i stop
saying 'this music is crap, overrated' or whatever stupid
categorization people make and atrribute it to music (which
makes no sense imo), because one day you finally realize
either (a) you do enjoy the music now and see you were an
ignorant fool some while back or (b) it's just not music
that suits your taste, and so fuckin what.

anyhow, a fact remains, god is 2 seperate people
collaborating together with the music skills. named ae.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2003-01-13 14:08 [#00512963]
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heh, this whole topic is nonsense. this is just one of these
"i don't like this and that" topic with another name.
this is just another stupid quarrel about who does like
what.

but the interesting thing is, that everyone says this is
nonsense, but look how this topic has grown up...


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2003-01-13 14:16 [#00512975]
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yes


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-13 15:21 [#00513083]
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yes i rtghink you sre right - thwey do do some great tracks
sometimes though - other times they aren't very good


 

offline CORTEX from Canada on 2003-01-13 15:56 [#00513118]
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true. by wanting to post that a certain thread should maybe
go away, you contribute to the opposite by putting the
thread at the top of the list, ironic...


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2003-01-13 18:02 [#00513191]
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Well there are alot of UNDERRATED Artists, who are infact
better than AE & AFX


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2003-01-13 18:20 [#00513203]
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AE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOONE IS BETTER THAN
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111


 

offline FlyAgaric from the discovery (Africa) on 2003-01-13 18:31 [#00513212]
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:-/

Errr...I just listened to amber, once again for thousandth
time, listen to the sounds(reallylisten!), hear how they
evolve, feel how they evolve! It's not hard...but
yeah...like someone once said on this mb...opionions are
like nipples....we all have them!



 

offline corngrower from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-01-13 18:40 [#00513216]
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I also just finished listening to Amber in it's entiredy,
while reading the book 'Dreamcatcher'. They went so well
together it's scary.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-01-13 19:10 [#00513250]
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you are WRONG frag


 

offline Laqeuro from New York City (United States) on 2003-01-13 19:40 [#00513275]
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what does everyone have against autechre?!?!?!?!
their new stuff like LP5 and Confield (not their new ep
blew) is increadble!
they should only get better with time....


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-01-13 22:42 [#00513428]
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Of course RDJ is kidding around with his releases. He saves
the best shit for himself. I think if he released a double
album of ONLY his best and most personal tracks, it would
make fucking Autechre look like EurotrashPopTechnoshit.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-13 22:48 [#00513435]
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HA HA HA

yeah, thats it.

"no no no, AFX is the best, we've only never heard it,
because he hasn't released that stuff, yeah.."

thats like believing someone who says to you: "my music is
the BEST but I won't let you hear it.."

OH YEAH I would believe him..


 

offline Frag from New Jersey (United States) on 2003-01-14 00:57 [#00513469]
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i don't get why people are still replying...

what i meant was, i was tired of people going AE IS THE
BEST, NOTHING IS BETTER THAN AE!

it just got irritating.


 

offline Duble0Syx from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-01-14 01:03 [#00513472]
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I don't think AE suck, but I do think AFX is better. But
aside from that, I'm gonna have to agree with Frag. If
someone has said "Nothing is better than AE" then they need
to be more open minded. I'm not even going to say AFX is
better anymore, I just enjoy his music more than AE's...


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-01-14 01:53 [#00513482]
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i still think ae are a bit overrated :o


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-01-14 01:57 [#00513484]
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I say, maybe fairly overrated on this board.


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-01-14 02:41 [#00513494]
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I think it all clicked when I listened to the RDJ album and
heard all those ZX Spectrum samples. These guys are trying
to write programs for the brain. Sometimes I listen to
Autechre and think it is sad obscurist shit and sometimes I
listen to it and these ideas come into my mind. Are autechre
programming me?


 


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