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something about it? tracks listed here. heard part of it? comments? |
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( im afraid of the ganz graf direction ) |
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I am afraid of it not going the Gantz Graf direction:(...but that is pretty much confirmed..so relax...they are called it return to melodic accessible Autechre.. do a search on Draft7.30 here plenty of threads went on about it and also try the http://www.warp-net.com |
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return to melodic and accessible????nooooo i want more confield...... |
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same here:( |
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confield is great....i don't need another amber or incunabula.....they're great but preatty dated..... |
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Itz gunna be a hard trance RECORD.......sean told me.... |
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Maybe they feel that they've pushed the outside schtick as far as it can go for now and wanna do something else before it becomes formulaic. Or maybe they started this rumor to fuck with our minds and there'll be fake easy listening bootleg mp3s circulating but then they'll release like Confield x 10 and our heads will explode wheeeee! |
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tranze sukz azz |
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I'm guessing what they will eventually release will always be something that makes us all go "WOW!" in one way or another.. |
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I wanted more of GG. |
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some of confield is great some of it is unlistenable but it's still their best record i think - but i don't think whatever they do they will go backwardds |
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no they will never head backwords... if you want amber 2 listen to phonem |
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you are all wrong. 1. Gantz Graf is musicless (but 3rd track) 2. Incunabula and Amber are great, no less than wonderful Confield, and if Ae want to make something like that again, we can only hold our breath... They've been rotting down their music for a while. Gantz Graf is like a step backward to all those dying AFX and everyone. (Yes AFX is dying slowly, see DrukQs for more). They sacrifice music to the beasts of harsh chaos electro thingies floating around. Take Peel Sessions 2. There are only two good tracks, and they're super good, that's because they HAVE music inside. And the other two are only good in the state of 2-sec loops, to which you listen and think 'yeah, that'd make a fucking nice hardcore song, but where are those melodies we love Ae for'. GG is primitive. As is a smaller part of Confield. I mean, they just HAD to put some beautiful melodic stuff there, but they didn't. And the rest of elements just aren't self-sufficient... |
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the purist's purists |
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I heard they were doing covers of depeche mode and early 90's pop songs (spice girls)........ sean told me..... "Oh I heard it through the grapevine....o well darlin wont you be mine.... honey honey.... yeah!" - California rasin's ;*) |
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look every albumn or ep has always been a completly new direction for autechre. whats make anyone think they would go in the Gantz Graf direction.. don't worry that was a one-off. just a fun ep they put out. |
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"1. Gantz Graf is musicless (but 3rd track) " "Yes AFX is dying slowly, see DrukQs for more" umm no, confield and gantz graf are both excellent and I think confield is the best release so far and drukqs is my favorite aphex release so either you dont like stuff thats harder to listen to or you just dont like the direction idm is going in. |
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We need more Incunabula and Amber. Dated.....what rubbish. Whatever the case may be, if it's very melodic, I'm all for it. |
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again check out Phonem who dedicated his career to repeating early ae. |
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oh geez they havent even released a track listing and everyone's already disappointed im sure that for the first month or so after it comes out, everyone will hate it.. but within a year it will be regarded as a sacred religious document by the same people who hated it.. i dont know where the rumor of it being more melodic and accessable came from but it sounds pretty interesting to me.. im sure they'll keep running with elements from confield and gantz graf.. but with a bit more melody and a little less obtuseness..that sounds perfect its not like theyre going to release another incunabula or something come on guys..at least wait till the album comes out before you start bitching about it |
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um. they HAVE released a track listing |
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umm no, confield and gantz graf are both excellent and I think confield is the best release so far and drukqs is my favorite aphex release so either you dont like stuff thats harder to listen to or you just dont like the direction idm is going in. ---- no music=no music Sim Gishel or Blifil are not harder to listen, they are NOT MUSIC. idm is NOT going in that direction there will be new, younger gods who can uphold the glory of IDM and all. |
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umm no, confield and gantz graf are both excellent and I think confield is the best release so far and drukqs is my favorite aphex release so either you dont like stuff thats harder to listen to or you just dont like the direction idm is going in. ---- no music=no music Sim Gishel or Blifil are not harder to listen, they are NOT MUSIC. idm is NOT going in that direction there will be new, younger gods who can uphold the glory of IDM and all. |
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infact, that was stated in the first post: "tracks listed here. " meaning if you go to xltronic.com it has the track listing. TRACKLISTING 01. XYLIN ROOM 02. IV VV IV VV VIII 03. 6IE.CR 04. TAPR 05. SURRIPERE 06. THEME OF SUDDEN ROUNDABOUT 07. VL AL 5 08. P.:NTIL 09. V-PROC 10. RENIFORM PULS |
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damn, another dupe |
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Sim Gishel IS music how many times do i have to type it :P |
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ya asshole.. don't go pulling that "it's not music crap" around here. |
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Are you for real? |
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why is it you people think if its not confield or merzbowmasturbatorialnoisebleeding (my pet name for gantz graf), that means it must sound prehistoric and amateurish? the album isnt even close to out yet, and you guys are busy shooting it down already... just look at me... i HATED gantz graf, but i'm not sitting here being closed-minded to it, because i know soon they'll do something i DO like. you don't have to like everything these people put out, you know. one bad album or ep doesn't mean they've lost it, and neither does doing something simply as a change of pace. i must say when i got into this type of music, i thought "now HERE'S a style where people seem to care about what's important, not a fashion". well, i must say that i was wrong to think that... because this messageboard is about as snobby and image-oriented as a limp bizkit message board. the only difference here is taste. they like A, you like B, but you're STILL acting like children. i'm sure sean and rob have much better stuff to do than LIVE on a message BORED. go write your own music. i do. it's fun. maybe it'll give you a better perspective on what being an artist is like, and how hard it is, and how that mentality works. sorry to bitch, i'm usually a pretty peaceful guy (being a christian and all) but i come here to see if there is any intelligent discussion and everyday i'm disappointed. i hope this website gets on its feet soon... cuz the waiting room is starting to suck. PS: you can all jump on my back now ;) |
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well fucking go away then... i don't the point too your rant.. becuase we have opinions we image-oriented. are where the hell was fashion mentioned anywhere in this thread. ? |
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JESUS..I mean tibbar..so what are you doing on a message BORED, with us lowlife nolifers..o'high and mighty one..? btw..most of us here ARE artists..and ARE making music..art what we do to please ourselves... |
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AMEN, BROTHER. Jesus is right, you pathetic motos. Fuck this scheisse! "Not music" means not carrying a melodic component, and not having anything else that could compensate and interest. How many times do I have etc PS DrukQs ang Gans Grath are getting too far into stupid chaos, that's why I like it not. It's not interesting (unlike Confield, which is chaotic but talented). I'd rather enjoy another Polygon Window release, than listening to this fashion-preaching crap. If you make trash-bleep-hardcore-something, people expect a bit more than just playing the same old stupid FX over and over. Be original or be musical. DOES ANYONE LIKE TRACK 1 OF GG? TELL ME WHY! |
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polygon window was recorded in the late 80s, get over it. name a track on drukqs besides gwarek2 and the transition/interlude tracks which lack music. |
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> most of us here ARE artists..and ARE making music.. wahahahaha |
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you're not fooling anyone. music is not defined as containing melody. haven't you ever heard music with only perucssion? you're making a fool of yourself. stop now for your own sake. i love track 1 of gantz graf. it's one of my favorite ae tracks. i couldn't tell you exactly why i love any piece of music other than that it induces pleasure or other positive feelings. gantz graf has something to do with traveling between worlds maybe? it feels as if it's punching into another dimension. |
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I guess your either a newbie or a complete moron, I'm leanin towards the latter |
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> recorded in late blablabla SO WHAT? it doesn't make any difference DrukQs: overall grayness there is :( |
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I like it. where to begin.. 1. it all falls at your definition of music. my definition is, music is the ordering of sounds in a particular way --> composition. that broadens it a bit, doesn't it? 2. to say that ae make "chaos" is not true. every fukking detail, every little sound they put in their music (YES! music) is there for a reason - the most important reason: they chose for it to be there. ae have used mathematical models to create sounds, but they never throw it to chance alone. I like Gantz Graf because the texture of the track is ENORMOUS. you can almost touch the track when it plays. it is extremely dynamic: it evolves, slaps, revolves, folds in and over, stretches, snaps, slides and turns and you can hear EVERY detail of it. this makes it an exhilarating track for me. 4. there IS melody inside of gantz graf. |
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DrukQs: overall grayness there is :( what the fuck are you talking about? first of all, that statement dosn't even make any sence. second, back up your arguments with examples. third, shut the fuck up. |
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You are stupid. I will not repeat it again. Ok, ok... ---begin-- and not having anything else that could compensate and interest. ---end-- GG track 1 is just plain standart noise without any structure. I can send you tons of it if you want. |
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"so WHAT?" so you want someone to start repeating music he made 10-15 years ago. that's just retarded. i'm glad you like the album but people progress onto other things. sorry you're not capable of grasping what richard's doing now, but many of us understand and love it. |
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>what the fuck are you talking about? first of all, that >statement dosn't even make any sence. second, back up your >arguments with examples. third, shut the fuck up. Fuck you, buddy! (c) It's too much the same samples and rythmical ideas, so isn't it lame for Rich to release an album with drumlines all the same. |
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names of the tracks seem melodic to me. i don't know how come. but really... |
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aye calm down.. i read it fast and thought the person was asking for a track listing.. the last time i was at warp it still said tracks tba.. ok ..we have the names of the tracks now... let the endless complaining commence |
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how can you miss the structure..? its not traditional song structure no, but there certainly IS structure. |
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yeah there's a structure. I really feel it both in gg and confield. maybe it's something like idm overdose. |
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>repeating music he made 10-15 years ago no you moron, I'm not talking like "he has to return to Polygon Window". >people progress onto other things it'd be cool to have, say, 3 such tracks per album, but not 10. I don't say I don't like it, I think it's one of the most exciting features of Aphex, but it's pretty much almost the same lately, this is what gets me. |
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>how can you miss the structure..? Mathematically and/or >yeah there's a structure. I really feel it both in gg Yeah, but the first track is too primitive, and I deny any structure captured in that piece of noise. Second is boring. Third is nice enough to save the release. >confield. maybe it's something like idm overdose. I like confield, it's very multisided and atmospherical and it DOES have structure :) |
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