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"You are stupid." what are you talking about? it's one thing when you're face to face with somebody and you don't have time to react, so you resort to name calling, but here in cyberspace you have time to think and have a conversation. the fact is that you statement about gg not being music is wrong. what you meant is that you don't like it and your panties are in a bundle because other people are enjoying something that you aren't. |
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and all of that is just me..there's a dozen better musos than me on this board..so watch what you say |
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what are you talking about? it's one thing when you're face to face with somebody and you don't have time to react, so you resort to name calling, but here in cyberspace you have time to think and have a conversation. -- Then why the hell do you people say 5 times a row that I hate Confield, or that I insist on melody or another bullshit? -- the fact is that you statement about gg not being music is wrong. what you meant is that you don't like it and your panties are in a bundle because other people are enjoying something that you aren't. -- Oh well. I just say it bothers me that Ae have nothing better to give us than 5 mins of standart sm-noise. And AFX is doing drumtracks that are indistinguishable (sorry, it's impossible for me to spell this correctly) from each other. |
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It's fun to cut and paste, isn't it! |
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that's fine that you don't like latest from afx and ae. i just don't like your high and mighty reducing the music to nonmusic. it is music, music that you don't like, music that i and many of us like. end of story. |
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ae goes idm overdose for those who cannot find anything in gg. that means this is the limit you could listen to ae. go back to earlier and replay them forever. |
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It's fun to cut and paste, isn't it!It's fun to cut and paste, isn't it!It's fun to cut and paste, isn't it!It's fun to cut and paste, isn't it!It's fun to cut and paste, isn't it!It's fun to cut and paste, isn't it!It's fun to cut and paste, isn't it!It's fun to cut and paste, isn't it!It's fun to cut and paste, isn't it!It's fun to cut and paste, isn't it!It's fun to cut and paste, isn't it! -- It is! This forum doesn't have that cool autoquote system, does it |
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so who here like team doyobi :] |
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it is music, music that you don't like, music tha-- do you say that GG 1 is not plain noise? Is there a rythm or perhaps another component that makes it listenable? I'm not a redneck asshead who hears an effect he himself made many many times, and assume it's cool music because those guys handle it a little bit better? You can play around with some plugins and give out what you call 'music', but it has nothing. It's nothing. NOTHING. Noise. NOISE. |
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lots of people only like music with mellodie.. you are one of them.. have fun with your band self |
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It's music. Albeit, pushing the envelope of what the definition of music is... and it's sub-par for AE. Now Confield... THERE'S music! Can't fucking wait for the new AE. |
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man jimi hendrix was stoned off his ass... feedbacking and bending the whammy bar mindlessly.... that doesn't mean that it didn't sound cool as fuck because it did. |
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that doesn't mean that it didn't sound cool as fuck because it did. -- It did. But imagine him just pulling one note and leaving the feedback as it is for 5 mins. -- lots of people only like music with mellodie -- I SAID I'M NOT ONE OF THEM YOU IDIOT -- Now Confield... THERE'S music! -- I'd be extremely glad if Ae go in that direction... Confield rules all. But GG is like Minidisc. Noone says MD is music or something. There are about 5 trax with actual content, the rest is just raw sample source. And GG is like that. |
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I LIKE CONFIELD |
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I DON'T ONLY APPRECIATE MELODIC STUFF |
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ok dude we get it... you don't like gg most people don't... i'm not really to fond of it myself... friends? |
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oh well, sorry I was trying to kill you :) |
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you just wrote "I'd rather enjoy another Polygon Window release, than listening to this fashion-preaching crap." you've also yet to mention any specific tracks on drukqs that lack a melody. |
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Most of them have non-melodic melodies, that's even worse Cock/Ver10 Mt Saint Michel etc 54 Cymru Beats |
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i've been listening to druqks all week... but right now it's CAN... can, so great |
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Taking Control |
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I'm not agreeing with Skyfarmer (I love Drukqs), but the lack of standout melodies (on the harsh tracks) kind of irks me, too... though I don't really listen to them for their catchiness. AFX237 v7 starts off with a great creepy tune, but that's as far as it takes it... kind of annoying. |
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Mt Saint Michel? you've gotta be kidding. you don't hear the synth melody? the vocal melody? even the drums are melodic. terrible example if your argument even has root in reality. |
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It truly is a magnificent spectacle to witness this clashing of differing intelligent opinions. Autechre would be embarrassed to have you as fans. *barfs all over the cake and leaves the party |
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shit. there was cake? |
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Gabtz Graf is music........tho very bad music........aight ! But Confield = The 1337nes ! |
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There is. Stupid melody. Not outstanding. I _LOVE_ Drukqs, but not for any of these monotonous pieces. They would look better in 1994. ICBYD, etc. |
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i find it ridiculous when people state their musical preferences/opinions as universal fact, ie this has no melody, or this is just noise, or this is not music. why not just admit you dont like it, and realize that the fact that you dont like a particular track doesnt make the said-track unlikeable? i hate boy-bands. i think their music is disgrtaceful. but that doesnt actually make their music disgraceful (i wish it would though). you cant make universal facts out of opinions i think... |
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you can actually :) it's a question of self-containing boybands ARE disgraceful and does it matter if I say 'it's crap' instead of 'I don't like it'? MY opinion is reality. I'm always right. hehe |
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it's a questionof different perspective. to me, saying 'it's crap' sounds like it's a fact, ie water freezes at 0 celsius tom me, saying 'i dont like it' sounds like youre giving your opinion which doesnt mean you close minded and cant see the other way around, ie people actually liking it. ok let's see if youre always right: what's the best ae track? |
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you dont like Confield you like Confield you dont like Drukqs you like Drukqs it's like a frickin Merry Go Round.. make up your mind dude you are makin me dizzy @@ |
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it's all you strange people I never said I didn't like Confield I said that confield was a right step, and GG wasn't I always loved Confield, and I like 2/3 of Drukqs It's just those dreadful tendencies I had to explain required examples |
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your opinion which doesnt mean you close minded and cant see the other way around, ie people actually liking it. --- But I am closeminded! I can understand why ppl like this or that, but I can't feel about it like they do. what's the best ae track? -- Nuane or Rae |
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"But I am closeminded" you said it! Rae, i cant believe you got the right answer... ya lucky bastard! |
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Phonem... interesting... which album do you suggest to me? I love amber' style... |
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Amber and Confield are my fav autechre's works. They're totally differents but they give me a special feeling. Anyway, sad melodies of Ae are the bests! I'm thinking to piezo, capiv, 444, cichli, etc... I can't wait to buy new album!!! |
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skyfarmer youre either incredibly manipulative or a hipocrate beyond the boundaries of human comprehension im going to believe the second because its funner, so in that case youre a pretentious fool who thinks he knows too much about "music", and you shouldnt be judjing dandiness |
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amber is great indeed, and in someway very similar to confield... lets see what is next like... surely it will take time to understand it |
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i have it under great authority that parts of the new AE album would fit straight into the Pop category in HMV - they're just so commercial.....bear in mind this is from the same person who claimed the latest Mira Calix album to also be "commercial"...although i gotta admit I thought it sounded like One On One part 2! (that's not to say that a bad thing btw!) so anyway - with a bit of perspective, he probably just means it's not quite as "extreme" as GG!! |
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wtf are you talking aboot brycey what is that you pretend not to believe or ?.. I don't know much aboot music, I just know what I like, and my tastes are universal law. see?.. |
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phonem doesnt sound at all like ae's amber imo. the first track off of 'hydroelectric' and 'ilisu' are amazing. |
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this was in response to nacmat's post btw. |
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( gnz grf gives me LESS inspiration than confield, or ep7. i havent seen the film yet -alex rutterford, there is a good interview with him on the www.warprecords.com site. but im interested in it. earlier ae clips didnt catch me. i think it will. i said im afraid of the gnz grf direction. i was not talking about they will release a thing like this. i said i am afraid of the gnz grf direction. in my opinion LESS IDEA MORE TRICKS. -if we compare. that is gnz grf for me. seen? ) |
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i have to defend our russian pal here, flea. i haven't seen him diss confield anywhere. he just doesn't like some tracks which he says isn't music, like sim gishel. and i agree with him that it isn't music, but i don't think that's such a bad thing. if music really consists of 4 (or how many?) elements, sim gishell has 3 of them. which makes it an interesting track, at least. and let's not attack skyfarmer because he calls himself closeminded :) i'm sure he wouldn't have done that if he knew the exact meaning of the word :D |
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All I say Sim Gishel and co. are not as interesting for me as the other tracks. Bine is better. It sounds like hell... I mean, I wouldn't spend 3 hours listening to it :) -- knew the exact meaning of the word :D -- it's not about its exact meaning, it's about how I use it :) |
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yeah, and thanx for sharing my tastes pal :) |
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ofcourse its okay to say you don't like tracks. but to say that they are not music seems pretty stupid to me. |
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I understand the term 'music' as I do, and in my opinion Sim Gishel is a nice track, but due to lack of musicality or anything that could draw my attention it's pretty boring |
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i'd like to know what is .musicality' or m'music' to you then. im sorry i dont have the courage or rereading the whole thread to see if you have specified these terms in this thread, as im pretty drunk, thus pretty lazy,... |
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ok :) well you're the first person i ever saw calling himself closeminded :D |
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