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good things don't happen by themself - my dad |
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well neither does bad things... |
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"if at first you don't succeed, give up and commit suicide." |
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if at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried |
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Try and fail. Try again, fail harder. |
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"THERE IS NO JUSTICE. THERE IS JUST ME." - The Death - Terry Pratchett |
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your dad is really smart anus |
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Why bother trying when you can just drink beer |
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"Self-consciousness exists in and for itself when, and by the fact that, it so exists for another; that is, it exists only in being acknowledged." Hegel. |
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I think it sounds better in french : "La conscience de soi est en soi et pour soi, en tant qu'être reconnu par une autre conscience de soi, qui est elle-même en soi et pour soi." |
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could hardly have been written a less intelligible way!! *tries to understand for the 20th time or so* |
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seems more understandable in english... |
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That's just a roundabout way of saying if a tree falls in the forest and no one's there to hear it, it makes no sound. Which, by the way, is wrong. :-) |
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*cries with jealousy* Y_Y me = definitely stupid!! |
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how can you be sure? :-p |
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To think otherwise is solipsism. |
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ok... someone explained it better for me |
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The difference is that a tree is not conscious, I think... |
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*sings* |
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eh? could you tell me another word for "solipsism" please? :-) I don't think you should take it literally... ofcourse a falling tree always makes a sound. But i think the question is more philosophical... when does something start existing? |
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Damn, I can't stand my avatar anymore. Time to change it. |
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I believe in the great void, where nothing exists. Everything that does exist has risen from the void and is constantly doing so. There is great joy in this. |
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How could a void create anything ? |
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That's very Taoist! Me rikee rikee. |
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Solipsism means things only exist if you can perceive them, like an infant playing peekaboo. |
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the path to truth is pathless |
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Actually there's a theory that subatomic particles are constantly being created by quantum fluctuations in the fabric of spacetime. Whether or not you believe in a first mover the whole question of origins is absurd. Ask God why he exists. Either something else created him with a purpose, in which case he's not god, or else he's just as puzzled as the rest of us. |
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how could we be sure a thing like truth really exists? and even if it exists, could we ever reach it? |
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I will pave the fucking thing so all you numbskulls can follow me. :-) |
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How could we be sure existance exists ? Hu... |
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Depends how you define truth. I define truth as knowledge that is in accordance with reality. And it looks to me like we're capable of reaching it, or at least enough of it that it can be meaningful to us. Of course if you define truth as unknowable from the get-go you're fucked, because then how do you know that it's unknowable? Won't someone please light a little candle in the night? :-) |
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Never cut yourself with a knife , it hurts like hell and it will start to bleed. Sido 2002 Wisdom. |
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I'm going to assume it doesn't so I won't need to answer that question. |
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:: applause :: |
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something has to exist, in some way or another... ourselves. if we didn't exist, we couldn't think whether we exist or not (and all this sort of things). so if something exists, existance must exist in some way... but i may be wrong, of course. |
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Depends of the definition of existence... |
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Oops, I was responding to uzim. |
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I define existence as a popcorn crumb on the floor of a theater in which a fat old man is performing The Vagina Monologues to an audience of enraged chimpanzees wearing Eve Ensler masks. |
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fleetmouse > we all have a subjective vision of things (well... we have, don't we?), and cannot know how far it is from reality... maybe we're very very far from the 'real' reality, since we only have our own realities as we perceive them (as we think reality really is)... we have nothing to compare our visions to (not even the other people's visions, since we see the other people through our own subjectivities as well of course), so we cannot be sure what reality really is. if truth is what's according to the reality, then we can't have absolute truth... at least that's what i think ' _ ' it's probably silly and completely theorical, but i like this vision of things... |
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*fleetmouse's brain has exploded* ^^ |
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^ was a follow-up to [#00454253] definitions, always definitions... they cause so many confusion sometimes... °_° |
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Absolute truth is also called God... |
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Really ? |
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exactly! |
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I can't believe it. |
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absolute truth = god? ...i'll have to think about that! ' _ ' btw dariusgriffin your avatar pic reminds me of 's one... |
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My avatar is Luc Ferry, actually. |
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