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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-11-22 04:34 [#00451298]
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I don't know why but I'm not able to understand this Ae album/ep and probably it's the only one.
I like complex album as Gantz Graf and I love Confield but ep7... no...
QUESTION: Which are your fav ep7 track (only one name, please)?
Probably you'll can help me to understand better this ep.
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nacmat
on 2002-11-22 04:58 [#00451326]
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first read this:
EP7
The title EP7 is a bit misleading, since the record is actually over an hour long and has eleven tracks. However, Ae decided to classify it as an ep, which was probably wise, since this can be viewed as a problematic sidestep rather than an inconsistent, mediocre album. Again, the British and American versions have different cover art, and the British version does include a hidden track that was excised from the American version for "technical" reasons (I have no idea what those might be). As it is, the hidden track is (truly) pointless and atonal indulgence and probably not worth paying the import price for (though the import does come in a cool frosted jewel-case).
EP7 sticks with the modus operandi of LP5 and the second Peel Session in terms of approach, though the sound is a bit more analog and organic. The problem is, while LP5 showed a sense of thematic development, most of the tracks here end pretty much as they started, and many come off as academic excercises (a pitfall that LP5 narrowly managed to avoid) rather than fully-formed pieces. Still, there's some interesting material here, particularly on the second side.
The hidden track can be accessed by rewinding past the first track. The first proper track is "Rpeg," which has a nice polyrhythmic clarinet sample that folds and manipulates over a repetitive and (after about five minutes) grating drum loop. "Cceg" is a slow Miami-bass influenced track which acts mostly as a bed for some cut-up vocal samples and is easily skipped. "Squeller" is a good track that has a very similar approach to "Gelk." Metallic percussion swings under a set of arbitrary chords, and the whole track has a fluid feel that's almost hard to grasp. Like the others, however, the track gets a bit monotonous after a few minutes.
"Left Blank" and "Outpt" both rely on recessed static and background noise for their texture. The only real difference between the two are the drum tracks used. Both have an interesting atmosph
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nacmat
on 2002-11-22 05:00 [#00451330]
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second part of the reading:
.... Both have an interesting atmosphere, much the same as on "Rotar" and "Stud" from Tri Repetae, but that's really all they have.
The second side is where this record picks up. "Dropp" is a great piece that shambles in on a minor-key piano figure and a distorted drum loop in 7/4. It doesn't develop much, but you spend the first half of the track finding your bearings anyway. Still, it's compelling, and in contrast to much of the other material here, it's short and doesn't overstay its welcome. "Liccfli" is a frantic excercise in drum programming that's almost virtuostic, but it lacks any real substance. "Maphive 6.1" is another story. It opens over a string section and driving kettle drums while gamelan-sounding bells loop over the mix. After a couple of minutes, a string bass enters, and the drums switch to a skittering snare-bass loop. Both the melody and the rhythm undergo several changes, and the piece ends with a chorale of backmasked bells.
"Zeiss Contarex" has a slow, distorted 2/4 beat supporting modulated, rumbling distortion. Over time, the distortion takes on an almost dramatic melody and an indistict female spoken-word snippet weaves into the background. Another strong piece. "Netlon Sentinel" is just incredible. It comes off as one of the most overtly angry things they've ever done. A flailing, feedback-riddled rhythm, again in 7/4, propels the track over a heavily-ampified string section. I can't help be reminded of a very pissed Mahler. It gets out of the way once it's exhausted its ideas and segues into "Pir," which although predictable, is very enjoyable. The track rides a melody remniscient of Eno's Apollo over schizophrenic, distorted drums. It comes off as a bit formulaic ("let's put a pretty melody over some really screwed-up drums!"), but it's pleasant nonetheless.
Critics were pretty evenly divided in their opinions on this one. Some found it unlistenable, which was a common complaint about all their post-Tr
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2002-11-22 05:01 [#00451336]
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zeiss contarex!! one of the best ae tracks ever, it makes me think of this swiss company that produces microscopes and such, or pir, or netlon sentinel which is quite similar or outpt which is rather different.
i listenend to it a lot recently, much more than to other ae stuff.
the female voice at the end of zeiss contarex is awsome
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nacmat
on 2002-11-22 05:02 [#00451338]
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third part of the reading:
Critics were pretty evenly divided in their opinions on this one. Some found it unlistenable, which was a common complaint about all their post-Tri-Repetae output. Others saw it as being overindulgent, and some saw it as being too complex (which I think is giving it too much credit in a way). For the most part, it has some great material on the second side, notably "Dropp" and "Netlon Sentinel," but the first side consists of throwaways, and as a cohesive whole, this record simply doesn't work. Die-hard fans probably already have this, and anyone interested in their later work would enjoy some of it, but for new listeners, this most definitely is not the place to start.
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nacmat
on 2002-11-22 05:03 [#00451341]
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my fav:
netlon sentinel
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2002-11-22 05:07 [#00451346]
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zeiss contarex: 1 netlon sentinel: 1
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-11-22 05:49 [#00451365]
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'Outpt' for its sheer simplicity.
-P
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-11-22 10:50 [#00451623]
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Great review nac! I'm going to print your answer and i'll read well at home while i'll listen ep7... thanks.
I hope to see othe opinion about ep7 and which is your fav track...
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Gubb
on 2002-11-22 11:00 [#00451626]
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pir
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Clic
on 2002-11-22 11:20 [#00451647]
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I like the entire album, but at the moment I enjoy CCEC, Dropp and Zeiss Contarex.
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-11-22 11:22 [#00451650]
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ccec
pir is a very close second
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2002-11-22 12:11 [#00451716]
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the whole album is perfect as a whole, can't pick really, but if had to would be zeiss contarex.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-11-22 12:20 [#00451736]
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netlon sentinel but I am only naming it grudgingly as I like all of it ..
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uzim
on 2002-11-22 12:35 [#00451760]
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maybe maphive 8.1 is the best... but the only one i truly remember what it sounds like is rpeg, which is really good.
ep7 was the first ae album i got (silly, i've been influenced by the cover ;)), and it's not bad but they've done far/ better...
lots of tracks on ep7 are filler tracks which sound all about the same imo...
maybe i need to get more into it, but i doubt about it. :)
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uzim
on 2002-11-22 12:36 [#00451764]
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ooooops forgot to close the html-italicizer sorry °_°
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2002-11-22 12:40 [#00451770]
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i think it ties with chiastic slide for 2nd strongest album, after confield
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uzim
on 2002-11-22 13:31 [#00451810]
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is confield really worth getting into...?
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naaic
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2002-11-22 13:38 [#00451816]
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dropp is my fav ep7 track
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Neto
from Ecatepec (Mexico) on 2002-11-22 13:43 [#00451824]
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nacmat, where is from that review?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-22 13:45 [#00451825]
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ep7 is music for the gods
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Neto
from Ecatepec (Mexico) on 2002-11-22 13:45 [#00451826]
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oh sure, you must listen to it and then return to it some time ago, until then you will know if it is really worth, much of that album is a personal thing...
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-11-22 14:31 [#00451878]
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ep7 was the autechre release that took me the most time getting used to.
fave track: the obvious choice would be pir, but i'll go with cecc.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-11-22 14:47 [#00451893]
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Maphive 6.1 The evolving melodie is beautifull. It starts quite happy and playfull and ends up sad and serious.
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2002-11-22 15:09 [#00451922]
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BTW, that was not nacmat's review:
Original source
Favorite track would have to be dropp, followed closely with netlon sentinel...
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2002-11-22 15:30 [#00451946]
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Zeiss Contarex, once that sinister melody emerges toward the end. One of AE's best.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-11-22 16:31 [#00452035]
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I'd love to fuck somebody while listening to Zeiss Contarex. BAM!
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nacmat
on 2002-11-22 17:38 [#00452115]
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of course I never pretended to fake that the review was mine (my english could never be that perfect)
thanks for the link da weeze, now woofer can print the complete article, he will love it i think.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-11-22 19:17 [#00452187]
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zeiss contarex - boyeeee!
maphive is my second fav.
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2002-11-22 21:08 [#00452249]
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You're welcome nacmat...I knew you didn't rip it intentionally, but I felt the link was necessary so that people could read the entire article for themselves...
:)
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-11-23 00:12 [#00452361]
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autechre.nu has a lot of ep7 reviews.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2002-11-23 00:56 [#00452389]
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yeha i dig the whole sinister thing in zeiss
fave moment for me tho is the combination of squeller+left blank
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Riccardo
from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-11-23 01:37 [#00452404]
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no problem woofer,ep7 is not a classic for me,and it took me long long long time to appreciate it,while usually i get into ae stuff quite easily...tough i like alot maphive 6.1,zeiss contarex,left blank,netlon sentinel,pir,the hidden track while i dislike outpt
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-11-23 01:52 [#00452410]
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ccec
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-11-23 05:13 [#00452501]
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ep7 is a master piece ............................................ .................yes
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