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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-01-14 19:34 [#00514370]
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Stop putting a goddamn dollar on everything you can!! I'm sick of fucking governments and big businesses trying to vanquish anything they cant make a penny from. Stupid war on drugs. I'm also sick of America trying to blow the shit outta any group that doesn't agree with US morals. War will not bring peace, only more war. Fucking war on terrorism.
"Oh my God, this War On Terrorism is gonna rule! I can't wait until the war is over and there's no more terrorism!"
"I know! Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?
It'lll be just like that!"
"Right! God, if only that War On Drugs hadn't been so effective! I could really use some fucking marijuana right now!"
- get your war on
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2003-01-14 19:39 [#00514373]
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haha, have you ever seen the one with voltron in it?! it's the best one!
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2003-01-14 19:40 [#00514374]
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so true
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-01-14 19:41 [#00514375]
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so u think by ignoring terrorism its going to go away? or by giving them what they want they will be satisfied?
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-01-14 19:56 [#00514379]
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No there are other options
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-01-14 20:02 [#00514380]
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oh i thought bombing countries because they dont share our morals was the only way..
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2003-01-14 20:03 [#00514381]
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everyone should just get together in a big room, put some pillows and blankets on the floor
turn off the lights, except for a lava lamp in the middle of the room
light up then talk things over like regular people yeah man
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-01-14 20:03 [#00514382]
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thats just one of the reasons
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magiker
from Östersund (Sweden) on 2003-01-15 02:47 [#00514607]
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Mankind is doomed anyhow so it doesn't matter wether we die in WW3 tomorrow or in a thousand years. Mankind is a tribe of vampyres sucking the life out of Gaia, but she will not comply.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-01-15 03:14 [#00514613]
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If they were in our position they'd do the same- or worse.
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2003-01-15 06:40 [#00514773]
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yeah man...
if only it were so easy
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lipstick
on 2003-01-15 06:48 [#00514780]
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US is pumping the world dry!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the real phukin' cause of ta war is that Bush needs to kick off OPEC power in the petrol businness............first Iran.......then Afghanistan.......now Iraq.......Russia become the little poor bros.......
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2003-01-15 08:32 [#00514867]
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Fuck idealism!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-01-15 08:35 [#00514872]
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LOL.
Not that it's actually funny :)
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-01-15 08:41 [#00514880]
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I agree with magiker. The problem isn't limited to americans, or western ideals. The problem is humanity. The sooner we kill ourselves off the sooner the earth can return to some sort of equilibrium.
Maybe mother earth will get lucky and the raeliens will accidentally create some sort of mutant disease that'll wipe us all out quickly and not fux0r up the other species too much.
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LuckyPsycho
from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-15 09:04 [#00514903]
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What the fuck is going on here?! "The sooner we kill ourselves off the sooner the earth can return to some sort of equilibrium."
What sort of bullshit is that?! We need to start accepting that we are an integral part of this planet, and of nature, but that both can, and WILL survive with or without us.
Once we realise this and people learn to use our planets (solar system/universe) resources more responsibly (as is already happening) then we will survive, and evolve and adapt, and change with our ever changing environment.
Wishing that we were all dead so that the planet can continue in some sort of perpetual bliss is ludicrous! If we suddenly dissappeared from the face of the earth, inevitably another speices would evolve to a level where it can worry about the harm it may or may not be causing to the planet.
We should shoulder our responsibilities, and get on with living as a part of 1 ever changing, ever evolving planet.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-01-15 09:08 [#00514905]
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Agreed- It's horribly arrogant of people to assume humans are different to other species. We just have more intelligence.
We shouldn't feel guilty about ruling the earth, we should just treat it with more respect and not use the resources up so quickly.
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-01-15 09:37 [#00514949]
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I was only about 65% serrious in that last post LP. I don't think you need to get so worked up.
and I don't think we're different from other species in any huge quantifiable way, but, I do think we are different in the extent to which we can modify the environment. and we (as a species) seem to have a track record of doing so with little reguard to the other inhabitants of this planet, or the planet itself for that matter.
another thing that seperates us (arguably) from most other species, in my opinion, is our advanced sense of 'morality' and right vs. wrong... and how we can justify immoral acts in the most assanine ways. in other words, we have a knack for doing horrible things that we have the capability of knowing are wrong and justifying them by retarded means (the holocaust, burning of the library at alexandria, destruction of the budist statues by the taliban, ect..) ... but, that's a whole different can of worms that I don't care to go into.
I'd love to see the human races' self centered bias toward dominating the universe changed, and I'll spread the word of anyone who comes up with a good plan to do so... however, I think that given the past history of people and their cruel treatment of each other, other species, and the earth in general I think it's a little naive, and idealistic to think that anything will change a whole lot.
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LuckyPsycho
from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-15 09:49 [#00514966]
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Of course things will change... that is what nature is all about... change. In terms of this planet, we have only been here for a very short amount of time, and look at how much we have changed.
Current thinking seems to be hung up on preserving things just as they are are. Whether it be the present evironment, or our past way of life. All of it is meant to change, and all of it will change with or without us... e.g. there have been 20 'ice ages' in the last 2 million years... did we cause those massive changes in climate? I think not.
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Binaural Tea
from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2003-01-15 09:59 [#00514975]
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aaaaaaa what the hell. lets just see what happens.
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-01-15 10:18 [#00515005]
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* takes shoes off *
* drinks beer *
* pukes *
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2003-01-15 15:00 [#00515271]
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IT's cause of commercialism that weed is made illegal, the alchohol and cigarette companies know that weed would lower their sales. Maybe i'm talkin outa my ass here, i dunno, just a theory.
I almost got arrested the other night. Grr :-0
Why can't everone be as liberal as the dutch.
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2003-01-15 15:05 [#00515284]
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Weed should be illegal because of its odour. Fuck that shit stinks - I mean I would hate to be in a bar with people puffin' joints. Keep it at home kids.
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BILE
from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2003-01-15 15:06 [#00515286]
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FUCK GRATUITOUS PROFANITY!
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-15 15:10 [#00515290]
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It should be made made legal to smoke at home. For people like thirdball's sake.
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2003-01-15 15:11 [#00515294]
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Personally, I think it's a lovely smell :P
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-15 15:13 [#00515295]
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Same here.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-01-15 15:13 [#00515296]
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easter island - a parable for all mankind
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-01-15 15:29 [#00515307]
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commercialism and capitalism and money can go to hell. they are the same thing pretty much. there will always be forms of commercialism no matter what.
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warpphex
from lurkston, ziltyland. (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-15 15:31 [#00515310]
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hey earthleakage you seen that program to! easter island was a smaller scale version of what is happening to are beautifull planet now:(
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warpphex
from lurkston, ziltyland. (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-15 15:34 [#00515316]
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we must learn from this, but i feel the worlds collective spirit is not strong or educated enough.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-01-15 15:47 [#00515327]
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education is the obvious key, but how
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2003-01-15 16:31 [#00515358]
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the deal is not only combatting current "enemies", but creating new ones for the years to come. The more that a bully fucks around with people who are different than him/her, the more people become angry and hateful towards the bully, and the more people the bully has to pick on. Round we go :D
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pentyharmonium
from Brigantine, NJ (United States) on 2003-01-15 17:47 [#00515444]
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i think to say a complete fuck to commercialism is rather ignorant. i've been reading recently about globazation, deregulation, commercialization, branding, intellectual property rights, and the list goes on some. alot of things that people have and take for granted would probably not be around without commercialism (i.e. computers, or at least computers at a widely available scale) now i'm definitely not defending commercialism, i'm rather against it, but you can't take such a serious issue and widespread issue and adress it with profanity and rather uneducated judgements. if anyone is really interested in these things you should go read some noam chomsky, he really is a remarkable, intelligent man.
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pentyharmonium
from Brigantine, NJ (United States) on 2003-01-15 17:48 [#00515445]
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oh, and don't forget. 'the government' and 'big business', which people like to refer to in a rather stupid way, are just people. think of them as people.
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lichtswitch
from playskull.com (United States) on 2003-01-15 17:56 [#00515448]
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what i don't get is when a person speaks his or her mind about how bad of a jerb the prez iz doing or when they dont support war, they r considered "unpatriotic".
fuck that and then some. it's all about the oil!
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lichtswitch
from playskull.com (United States) on 2003-01-15 18:02 [#00515449]
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http://www.ganglu.com/yabbse/index.php?board=5;action=displ ay;threadid=396
peepz like this r considered "unpatriotic" as well huh?
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2003-01-16 21:01 [#00517098]
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I thought some things I said in another thread would be better applied here, so, copy and paste =
America has its problems, just like other nations have their problems. But you seem to be all over the place on this weatheredstoner. I would like to see another country handle being a superpower and not have problems, scary to think but its almost like a single goverment run world now.
But, people say, oooo america the EVIL capitalist sociaty, that evil no good market driven sociaty....... fact is, if you didnt live in a market driven sociaty, you wouldnt have the luxuries of such things as: being able to start your own company, being able to hear music from independant record labels, to be able to have a variety of products and goods to choose from everyday, to be able to spend your money on things you REALLY want and not just what is availible or what the goverment provides.
I think that is very funny and hypocritical to see people on here who live in a market driven sociaty complain about it. Try living in Iraq,
Cuba or Korea (north or south... doesnt matter) for a while, then you might think differently about complaining
I have a good laugh when people complain about free market economy. its all so hypocritical seeing kiddies use products that free market created (IBM, Apple, Dell, Gateway... and so on) and protest it, when its staring them right in the face, and having the luxuries that the market sociaty (music that we purchase and apprieciate everyday) produces. I get a good laugh at that
Economists should design or amend a new market structure, that would be interesting
If your going to point fingers, point it at all of the economic structures (mainly just 4) which have been developed and look how the world is run and what drives it, because there lies the problem. I dont think any of them really work. Some better then others, but all have problems
which usually deal with the middle and lower class of sociaty
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lichtswitch
from playskull.com (United States) on 2003-01-16 21:24 [#00517111]
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werks for me.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-01-16 22:27 [#00517153]
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Any system is doomed to fail. But everyone acts like America is the best thing since Jesus and we should all just shut the fuck up or be branded as terrorists.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-01-16 22:45 [#00517158]
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well it's cuz the people in power want to stay that way by keeping the masses enslaved like worker bees to support them, it's just like the movie The Matrix.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-01-16 22:47 [#00517159]
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although there's the good side of it which is advances in technology, which will ultimately lead to our exodus from this deathtrap of a planet-bound existance, so it's all good.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2003-01-16 23:17 [#00517177]
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hahaha, call me a terrorist then
I dont think that ALL economic systems are meant to fail. I think the free market based economy sytems have been fairly sucessfull through out history, and the market will always repair its self if as long as there are people out in the world who want to sell a product.
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