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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-01-14 18:13 [#00514342]
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but it's so damn good. and i've had geogaddi so long, i feel like it's from 2001 or something. i never think of it as a 2000 release.
i think the poll is pretty shit anyways.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-01-14 18:15 [#00514343]
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i complained about it, and then had a little flashback about me scolding a certain someone about complaing about another poll
heh
how the mighty have fallen
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-01-14 18:15 [#00514344]
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heheeh
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-01-14 18:27 [#00514346]
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but he also put out 3 other releases (higgins, 237, giant alien force) and they were looked over.
the only one that i would nominate for best of 2002 would be higgins. just to be fair, i'll give my opinion on all of the releases that i've heard:
Geogaddi: It's good, yeah, but when i listen to it, there are too many tracks that i always skip over.
Gantz Graf: The only real reason i like the song is because of the video. When you don't see the big mechanical structure spazzing along to KKCCHCHCHCKKWHHIRRBBBBLLLBLBTSHBAKLKSTSHBOW..... DICHSJKGIDHGIGASTSHBOW... etc...
Cap.IV and Dial. are good tracks though imo.
Do You Know Squarepusher: I don't know, i've only had this a little while, in cd form at least. I only like 3 or so tracks from the first cd, and the second cd is pretty good, but i don't really consider it part of a new release since its basically all pre released tracks (even if it was in the same package) plus one new track.
Astrobotnia Series: In all honesty, this needs to be divided into the three albums. These are my favorites (and picks) for the best of 2002 from what we had, because there is something really honest that i find in the tracks (except maybe everyone, which is ironically my favorite).
Just thought i'd throw that out there so you guys don't think i'm just picking snares because "HE'S SO. DAMN. HARD!"
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-01-14 20:49 [#00514400]
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didn't mean to kill the thread :/
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-01-14 20:54 [#00514406]
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asshole
;)
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-01-14 21:03 [#00514417]
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:'(
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-01-14 21:45 [#00514459]
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doesnt anyone want to give me a reason to like anything?
i was hoping for a heated discussion :/
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-01-15 01:36 [#00514587]
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Why you killed the topic? Why? :-)
I listened "alien giant force... ... ..." and it's nice but hard drill'n'bass isn't my fav kind of music.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-01-15 04:14 [#00514637]
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What the heck?
i like geogaddi because it is So easy to get into, i got it first time...and because it is so Very dreamy and not dark at all...why are you saying the opposite?
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-01-15 04:27 [#00514644]
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Geogaddi is average, MHTRTC is good. Gantz Graf is good, Plaid EP is excellent. I am sure some people here just vote what they perceive to be the "darkest" or "nastiest".
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-01-15 04:28 [#00514646]
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And Vatican Nitez is good although I preferred Cradle of History.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-01-15 09:14 [#00514910]
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Gantz Graf and Vatican Nitez took more votes and they're closing gap.
Gantz has third position, while Vatican N. is 4th, check the poll.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-01-15 09:17 [#00514914]
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Ok, ok... i made a mistake... Vatican Nitez is not the 4th, anyway it got 6 good votes.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-01-15 09:26 [#00514922]
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Why do people keep bringing MHTRTC into this? It didn't come out in 2002.
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Homestar
on 2003-01-15 14:29 [#00515230]
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people like certain records depending on how they measure to their other records.
"this record isn't as good as the last one. i'm disapointed because of that. so it's not my favotite."
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-01-15 14:55 [#00515258]
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if geogaddi wins i'm gonna kill myself - a bit drastic i know but what the hell
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-01-15 15:01 [#00515275]
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err actually after seeing the current stats i withdraw that last remark / threat / promise. sorry to disappoint.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-01-15 15:02 [#00515276]
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you've at a good run
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-01-15 15:02 [#00515278]
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at=had
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-15 18:22 [#00515461]
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I don't think Geogaddi is harder to get into than MHTRTC - its just shittier! nah, to me its a little boring. the melodies don't grab me, it feels like its a cheap copy of BoC.
MHTRTC sounds "good/nice" but has a heavy, creepy undercurrent of melancholy and darkness. a creepier record than the bland Geogaddi.
more End of Story than Zeus's's's's..
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-01-15 18:30 [#00515469]
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Geogaddi obviously... loved it the first time, and loved it more and more from then on... as Ceri said, I don't think I'll ever get tired of it...
and it's much MUCH better then MHTRTC imo... in every way... sound quality, production, melodies, beats, etc, etc... packaging, whatever... Geogaddi is one of my favorites EVER!!
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-01-16 01:21 [#00515839]
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Geogaddi is the ruled of the poll!
Boards of Canada - Geogaddi 59 votes Astrobotnia series 35 votes Autechre - Gantz Graf ep 17 votes Squarepusher - Do You Know Squarepusher 13 votes
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-01-16 01:21 [#00515841]
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ruled=ruler
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-01-16 01:35 [#00515848]
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as someone once said, "Geo-fucking-gaddi!"
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uzim
on 2003-01-16 10:10 [#00516408]
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geogaddi, "dark and evil"?!
lol! just because it is 66:06 and the backwards messages etc.?? ^^
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2003-01-16 10:12 [#00516409]
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Geogaddi was a bore.
Winter In The Belly of a Snake - VS
Now that's the shit.
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uzim
on 2003-01-16 10:16 [#00516413]
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i guess i will never understand how people even dare putting BoC on the same line as 7\, Ae and >[].
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2003-01-16 10:40 [#00516444]
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I voted for plaid
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-01-16 14:35 [#00516720]
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dude.
not just because of the 666...
listen to the songs. They are in no way relaxing like MHTRTC
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uzim
on 2003-01-16 14:43 [#00516728]
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well, i found them relaxing... ' _ '
the only disturbing thing about geogaddi imo was the children.
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-16 15:05 [#00516751]
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haha, uzim has links to marilyn manson, and oasis on his site... that explains it!...
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uzim
on 2003-01-16 15:11 [#00516757]
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what is your idea core?
BoC = good, manson and oasis = sucks, and i can't understand BoC given i listen to them? ;)
(i agree that manson latest stuff sucks though - i barely listen to mm anymore ^^)
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-16 15:15 [#00516760]
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well, no offence uzim, but people who mistake BOC for 'nice friendly' music often turn out to be fans of industrial music or some other teenaged angst.
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uzim
on 2003-01-16 15:26 [#00516771]
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i'm listening to satanstornade right now, i guess it won't help either! ;P
i'll listen to geogaddi after that, trying to get the darkness in it... =)
maybe it is about... looking at life (including the horrible things in it), but with a children's point of view? would explain for example in "1969", charles manson (and david koresh - branch davidians but i don't know anything about them), and/opposed to that "1969 in the sunshine" (one of the most predictable and IMHO worst lyric lines ever - even if it has a meaning)?
(and the hidden track, "from one source all things come"...)
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-16 15:30 [#00516778]
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i think you'll find that the things that people sometimes criticize BOC about, mainly 'cheesy' '70s' 'naive' 'predictable (your comment above) elements, are all totally deliberate. you have to kind of know all their stuff from the start thru to the latest, then you realise that they're actually slightly taking the piss, in a clever way.
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uzim
on 2003-01-16 15:34 [#00516785]
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is this it?
i think on the one hand, i somewhat get this... (although i wouldn't call it evil at all, to me it is rather a positive reaction to the horror in the world - trying to demystify it, to embrace it as a part of the world instead of focusing on it and complaining about how horrible and evil it is... anti-NIN if you want)...
...but on the other hand i can't help thinking it sounds out of place, and shallow (even if the dark elements are hidden, that doesn't prevent them from being superficial - just noticing branch davidians for example, without saying ANYTHING about it, isn't it shallow? you could pretend that "it's because we want people to search about it and have their own opinion, we're just looking at it, having a child's view", but it's a bit easy...
maybe i'm totally wrong but i'm searching! *' _ -*
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-16 15:35 [#00516787]
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also, i just realized there's an age-difference issue here. you were born in 1985? i was born in 1970... i had already lost my virginity, gone to hospital from alcohol, and given up smoking by the time you were born!
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uzim
on 2003-01-16 15:36 [#00516790]
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(haven't seen your reply before posting my 2nd post)
ok... i only have geogaddi in full album - only heard samples off 'music has the right to children'...
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-16 15:36 [#00516792]
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no, with BOC, the more you look into the detail, the more you see the angles in the material. it's like a fractal, it's quite cynical and dark when you get into it.
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uzim
on 2003-01-16 15:38 [#00516795]
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+_+
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uzim
on 2003-01-16 15:54 [#00516825]
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maybe i've been badly influencated then... and am too influenceable/immature...
everybody was saying "BoC is beautiful and emotional", etc... so i pictured it was music to feel more than to think, and i listened to it waiting for feelings, not brain-music to dissecate.
you win, i guess. ^^
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-16 15:56 [#00516827]
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no it's not a competition or an argument! just keep an open mind! :-)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-01-17 02:10 [#00517328]
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Today could be last day for vote in the official Xltronic poll.
1] Geogaddi -Warp- 60 votes 2] Astrobotnia -Rephlex- 36 votes 3] Gantz Graf -Warp- 17 votes
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uzim
on 2003-01-17 04:01 [#00517431]
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yeah, could be...! ;)
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